Larz Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 Cap space down to $12 million. If I’m not mistaken The rookie pool is about $5 milly I think and teams like to have $5 milly on hand for in season signings of street free agents to back fill for injuries. This includes kinlaw, zuerlein, but not Taylor and the others. cutting a guy after the big money is gone would be super douchy. would expect some restructuring to be announced soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 19 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Why trade anything? They are hooped, make them cut these guys. I don't want either on the contracts they have. No offensive player is coming to the Jets without the BIG OVERPAY! At least trading for a WR or OT gives us a chance this season.... but I would only offer a draft pick 5th or below. 8 minutes ago, Stark said: have to think they would re-do the contract, trade takes out the "hope" of them agreeing to come here at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 14 minutes ago, ElBarrioJets said: We literally only had Quinnen and Tanzel Smart under contract before those signings. We didn't have DTs. Source, because I'm not sure how accurate that claim is tbqh, but I can't find a truly updated source myself. We have several guys listed as "DT" on the roster, but of course you can't always trust a "DT" is really a DT these days with the systems run in fairness. How many DT's do we generally play? One (QW) and a couple of rotational edge linemen, right? So how many DT's does the roster really need? Seems we rostered few actual legit NT's last year as well, mostly having rotational edge guys who could also shift in when scheme called for it. /shrug, it's less about these signings (although neither impresses me) and more about how bad our O is, and how little has been done to fix it, and how little emphasis seems to exist to fix it. I continue to think JD (and many fans) think "Rodgers fixes everything" and I don't buy it. Could I be dead wrong, sure, no question that's possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, bicketybam said: We could have always fielded a defense with no DT's. Makes sense. When Woods was done after the Giants game, the defense went to sh*t. Couldn’t stop the run. The huge guy from the Cardinals will really help. Bring back Jefferson. Don’t get Kinlaw deal at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 6 minutes ago, Larz said: Cap space down to $12 million. If I’m not mistaken The rookie pool is about $5 milly I think and teams like to have $5 milly on hand for in season signings of street free agents to back fill for injuries. This includes kinlaw, zuerlein, but not Taylor and the others. cutting a guy after the big money is gone would be super douchy. would expect some restructuring to be announced soon The most concerning part of free agency so far has been the lack of restructuring. I wanted us to go the depth route for WR and OL instead of overpaying for just 1 guy at each unit…but without cuts and restructures we don’t have much room left to make any moves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 29 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Why trade anything? They are hooped, make them cut these guys. I don't want either on the contracts they have. Exactly, that’s the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Calvin Ridley is interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBarrioJets Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 minute ago, Warfish said: Source, because I'm not sure how accurate that claim is tbqh, but I can't find a truly updated source myself. We have several guys listed as "DT" on the roster, but of course you can't always trust a "DT" is really a DT these days with the systems run in fairness. How many DT's do we generally play? One (QW) and a couple of rotational edge linemen, right? So how many DT's does the roster really need? Seems we rostered few actual legit NT's last year as well, mostly having rotational edge guys who could also shift in when scheme called for it. /shrug, it's less about these signings (although neither impresses me) and more about how bad our O is, and how little has been done to fix it, and how little emphasis seems to exist to fix it. I continue to think JD (and many fans) think "Rodgers fixes everything" and I don't buy it. Could I be dead wrong, sure, no question that's possible. Absolutely agree, and I wanted the team to aggressively go for O from the jump. But the above is accurate, we had only 2 DTs under contract with any NFL experience. Today is literally the first day of the league year and teams have to get under the cap. There's going to be a LOT of action today. Let's judge the moves in totality as opposed to what order they were done in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 minute ago, Adoni Beast said: The most concerning part of free agency so far has been the lack of restructuring. I wanted us to go the depth route for WR and OL instead of overpaying for just 1 guy at each unit…but without cuts and restructures we don’t have much room left to make any moves. Conspiracy theory: the jets know rodgers is going to retire, but they’re waiting until after the draft to announce it b/c if they do it now that signals they’re all in the qb market. If rodgers goes, i presume his cap hit would too and that would alleviate any cap issues. Alternative: douglas is sitting on his hands. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 18 minutes ago, Larz said: Bloodbath for the chargers today. Welcome back to the NFL, Jim. You don’t have the richest, largest alumni group in the world to bail your cheating ass out anymore. 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, ElBarrioJets said: Let's judge the moves in totality as opposed to what order they were done in. Agreed. That doesn't mean though we cannot make casual evaluation/opinion comments on the moves as they happen/don't happen. 100% though it's about the final product that lines up Week 1 in August more than any moment between now and then. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barry McCockinner Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 8 minutes ago, Larz said: The Jets can easily create cap space with some restructuring and extensions. Stop capdooming. JD is a disgusting fool if he doesn't load up and take a shot this year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 4 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: The Jets can easily create cap space with some restructuring and extensions. Stop capdooming. JD is a disgusting fool if he doesn't load up and take a shot this year You may have missed the point of the tweet. If that was the plan he probably should have wrapped it up before all the impact players were off the market. I doubt woody will write a bunch of huge checks today to bail out JD and put the next GM in a bind next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, Larz said: You may have missed the point of the tweet. If that was the plan he probably should have wrapped it up before all the impact players were off the market. I doubt woody will write a bunch of huge checks today to bail out JD and put the next GM in a bind next year. Woody is even more of a moron than I imagined if he's going to cash strap JD after trading for Rodgers at the end of his career. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Not sure how reliable this source is but, if there really are 5+ teams in for Boyd, then I don't see the Jets getting him...unless JD does a Kinlaw and overpays significantly: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 58 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Why trade anything? They are hooped, make them cut these guys. I don't want either on the contracts they have. Not saying you are wrong, but no player with any value is going to want to sign here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 27 minutes ago, August said: Calvin Ridley is interesting. I heard yesterday that there is a clause in the trade Jax made with Atlanta to get him regarding him re-signing with them before today/tomorrow and the pick that would go back to ATL. Something like a 2nd round pick (to ATL) if he re-signs before tomorrow and a 3rd (or 4th) if he re-signs with Jax after that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, mrcoops said: Not sure how reliable this source is but, if there really are 5+ teams in for Boyd, then I don't see the Jets getting him...unless JD does a Kinlaw and overpays significantly: Tough decision here. The Steelers organization or work for Poindexter? Can I call a friend?😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 30 minutes ago, Warfish said: Agreed. That doesn't mean though we cannot make casual evaluation/opinion comments on the moves as they happen/don't happen. 100% though it's about the final product that lines up Week 1 in August more than any moment between now and then. It's looking really bleak right now. We all have a right to be pessimistic/skeptical. The Jets have really given us no reason to be optimistic about anything they are doing. They haven't earned the benefit of the doubt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 13 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Woody is even more of a moron than I imagined if he's going to cash strap JD after trading for Rodgers at the end of his career. Yup. The restructuring announcement could happen in 5 minutes but it sure seems like the plan was to spread around what they had to get draft flexibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 9 minutes ago, slimjasi said: It's looking really bleak right now. We all have a right to be pessimistic/skeptical. The Jets have really given us no reason to be optimistic about anything they are doing. They haven't earned the benefit of the doubt. This was always the plan though, that rodgers would elevate the offense and the d would take care of the rest. Nothing has changed in this regard, except that rodgers is coming off a major injury and may run for vice president of the USA. And they now have a viable backup qb. But the plan was always to (perpetually) fix the offense and add cheaper veteran wrs that rodgers can use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 20 minutes ago, mrcoops said: Not sure how reliable this source is but, if there really are 5+ teams in for Boyd, then I don't see the Jets getting him...unless JD does a Kinlaw and overpays significantly: I'd choose Rodgers over RW everyday of every week 15 minutes ago, section314 said: Tough decision here. The Steelers organization or work for Poindexter? Can I call a friend?😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 7 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: Nothing has changed in this regard, except that rodgers is coming off a major injury and may run for vice president of the USA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, Augustiniak said: Conspiracy theory: the jets know rodgers is going to retire, but they’re waiting until after the draft to announce it b/c if they do it now that signals they’re all in the qb market. If rodgers goes, i presume his cap hit would too and that would alleviate any cap issues. Alternative: douglas is sitting on his hands. If Rodgers retires, his cap hit in 2024 balloons up to $32M apparently with a 60M hit in 2025 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 We have a GM that doesn’t go beyond his set number with key top free agents but tends to overpay for the average, below average players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Goodness gracious, Joe Douglas wasn't willing to top this offer of 1y / 8M? https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39711389/source-patriots-bring-qb-jacoby-brissett-1-year-deal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 4 minutes ago, shuler82 said: If Rodgers retires, his cap hit in 2024 balloons up to $32M apparently with a 60M hit in 2025 His parting gift to Ambassador Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Just now, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Goodness gracious, Joe Douglas wasn't willing to top this offer of 1y / 8M? https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39711389/source-patriots-bring-qb-jacoby-brissett-1-year-deal FA is a 2 way street. The players has a choice and Brissett will have a VERY good chance to start there. You follow? 🥴 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSIDE Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Cmon man- brisset has a history with NE, and a chance to start. Zero chance with NYJ unless rodgers goes down again. Why would he wanna come here? Let’s stop acting like we’re all better GMs- we dont always see the whole picture. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Goodness gracious, Joe Douglas wasn't willing to top this offer of 1y / 8M? https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39711389/source-patriots-bring-qb-jacoby-brissett-1-year-deal He wanted a chance to start and play for his former OC. Don't think it had anything to do with money. The Jets gave Taylor a healthy 2 year deal. Take a breath. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 3 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Goodness gracious, Joe Douglas wasn't willing to top this offer of 1y / 8M? https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39711389/source-patriots-bring-qb-jacoby-brissett-1-year-deal I would have liked Brissett, but he probably sees a clearer path to being the starter in NE than with the Jets. That was before AR was selected as Vice-President, of course... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 7 minutes ago, shuler82 said: If Rodgers retires, his cap hit in 2024 balloons up to $32M apparently with a 60M hit in 2025 This is the trade that just keeps on giving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, mrcoops said: I would have liked Brissett, but he probably sees a clearer path to being the starter in NE than with the Jets. That was before AR was selected as Vice-President, of course... He”ll start at least half this year until rookie QB is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 40 minutes ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: Not saying you are wrong, but no player with any value is going to want to sign here. If you pay the most then they will sign for the vast majority of players. Only the very very elite get too choosy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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