Popular Post Maxman Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: We suffer through Zach Wilson for three years before moving on from him. Sean Payton talks to the guy for two days and breaks his ankle running to draft his replacement. That’s why Payton is a Hall of Famer. This is amazing. Didn't even think of that. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 15 hours ago, Barton said: Like it or not, the Jets did NOT have a plan of development for Zach Wilson. He had no business starting as a rookie, which myself and a few others said the day he was drafted. That 2021 team had zero talent and a terrible coaching staff in offense/head coach. On top of that, he had minimal experience at a smallish school. The Jets absolutely failed Zach. And I’m a guy who is glad he is gone now but let’s call balls and strikes here. He would not have been good anywhere. He’s small, weak, fears contact, and has the personality of a swedish toothpaste model. An absolute mush on and off the field. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBJ Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: We suffer through Zach Wilson for three years before moving on from him. Sean Payton talks to the guy for two days and breaks his ankle running to draft his replacement. That’s why Payton is a Hall of Famer. Payton drafted Nix so Zach could mentor him brah. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shuler82 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, T0mShane said: He would not have been good anywhere. He’s small, weak, fears contact, and has the personality of a swedish toothpaste model. An absolute mush on and off the field. I know a Swedish toothpaste model and you’re 100% right 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 The Wilson medical exam; Broncos may not want him to pass after this pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, TBJ said: Payton drafted Nix so Zach could mentor him brah. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBJ Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, shuler82 said: I know a Swedish toothpaste model and you’re 100% right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TBJ Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Zach Wilson will not wear his prior number with the Jets (2) or rock his college digit at BYU (1). Nor will he inherit his predecessor, Russell Wilson's old digs (3). Instead, the new Denver Broncos quarterback — acquired via a pick-swap trade Monday — has been assigned jersey No. 10 for the 2024 season, the team announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, rbstern said: I'm gonna make this prediction: He's opening day QB in Denver come September. Oh stop it Lisa! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HessStation Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 I just realized the Broncos now have the dorkiest looking Chads of an NFL QB room in the NFL. Probably of all time. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 16 hours ago, T0mShane said: We suffer through Zach Wilson for three years before moving on from him. Sean Payton talks to the guy for two days and breaks his ankle running to draft his replacement. That’s why Payton is a Hall of Famer. I have a little bit of a different perspective, as usual..... we spend countless hours bashing the hell out of Zach Wilson, and almost none on Saleh. The fact that we kept Todd Bowles when Andy Reid was avaialble, and Robert Saleh when Peyton was avaialble, and yet our focus is on Zach Wilson and not Saleh. Zach Wilson is rightfully gone, but Zach Wilson is merely a symptom, the real problem is Saleh is a fraud of a HC, with zero ability to bring in a staff who can identify a real QB. Our problem is still here, the symptom is temporarily gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: I have a little bit of a different perspective, as usual..... we spend countless hours bashing the hell out of Zach Wilson, and almost none on Saleh. The fact that we kept Todd Bowles when Andy Reid was avaialble, and Robert Saleh when Peyton was avaialble, and yet our focus is on Zach Wilson and not Saleh. Zach Wilson is rightfully gone, but Zach Wilson is merely a symptom, the real problem is Saleh is a fraud of a HC, with zero ability to bring in a staff who can identify a real QB. Our problem is still here, the symptom is temporarily gone Saleh is complicit in letting Zach ruin his first three years as head coach. I have no love for Saleh as a coach, but at least he’s delivered on the defensive side of the ball. That said, no coach was saving Zach Wilson. Literally every team in football could have had him for a seventh round pick swap and all but one passed on it. And the one who finally took that deal immediately ran out and overdrafted a QB that Zach has no chance of beating out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 8 minutes ago, HessStation said: I just realized the Broncos now have the dorkiest looking Chads of an NFL QB room in the NFL. Probably of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, T0mShane said: Saleh is complicit in letting Zach ruin his first three years as head coach. I have no love for Saleh as a coach, but at least he’s delivered on the defensive side of the ball. That said, no coach was saving Zach Wilson. Literally every team in football could have had him for a seventh round pick swap and all but one passed on it. And the one who finally took that deal immediately ran out and overdrafted a QB that Zach has no chance of beating out. as usual, you are completely missing the point. Saleh is a DC, fine, but as a HC its your responsibility to bring in good Offensive people. Instead, he brough in his best friends brother as OC. MLF banged the table along with Hogan for Zach Wilson, and loved him as a prospect. You can be great on defense, but if you can't field a competent offense, nothing else really matters. Peyton will land a great QB, whether its Nix, or someone else, but he moved on from HOF Wilson after one season. Good coaches get good QB;s, bad ones blame everyone else for not getting them a good QB. Until we get a real coaching staff, we will not have nice things, even with ZW gone, our massive problem still exists. Its like a ship with a huge hole that allowed the ship to fill up with water, you can get rid of the water, but until you patch the hole, your problem still very much exists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 18 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: as usual, you are completely missing the point. Saleh is a DC, fine, but as a HC its your responsibility to bring in good Offensive people. Instead, he brough in his best friends brother as OC. MLF banged the table along with Hogan for Zach Wilson, and loved him as a prospect. You can be great on defense, but if you can't field a competent offense, nothing else really matters. Peyton will land a great QB, whether its Nix, or someone else, but he moved on from HOF Wilson after one season. Good coaches get good QB;s, bad ones blame everyone else for not getting them a good QB. Until we get a real coaching staff, we will not have nice things, even with ZW gone, our massive problem still exists. Its like a ship with a huge hole that allowed the ship to fill up with water, you can get rid of the water, but until you patch the hole, your problem still very much exists This is a baby with the bathwater situation. No head coach or OC or whomever was overcoming Zach Wilson. There is no path to deflect from that. Bad QB play just ended the career of the greatest coach of all time in New England, and the play he got from Mac Jones was far better than what we got from Zach Wilson. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, T0mShane said: This is a baby with the bathwater situation. No head coach or OC or whomever was overcoming Zach Wilson. There is no path to deflect from that. Bad QB play just ended the career of the greatest coach of all time in New England, and the play he got from Mac Jones was far better than what we got from Zach Wilson. still missing or ignoring the real point, which is the real problem, zach wilson was the water, the huge gaping hole is still in the boat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 9 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: still missing or ignoring the real point, which is the real problem, zach wilson was the water, the huge gaping hole is still in the boat The real problem on any football team is fielding an adequate quarterback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBJ Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: still missing or ignoring the real point, which is the real problem, zach wilson was the water, the huge gaping hole is still in the boat All it takes is flex seal to fix the hole in the boat. It takes an act of God to stop the water. Next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: The real problem on any football team is fielding an adequate quarterback. yes, and that does not happen magically, it takes people who know how to identify one, and put them in a position to succeed, we don't have anyone who can do that. So in a year or two when we don't win a SB with Rodgers, it should be super fun letting Saleh and Hackett try to draft and develop the next QB, wooo hooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 15 minutes ago, TBJ said: All it takes is flex seal to fix the hole in the boat. It takes an act of God to stop the water. Next! were talking about a real big hole here TBJ, not a little crack, like a porn stars gap, think that big Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBJ Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: were talking about a real big hole here TBJ, not a little crack, like a porn stars gap, think that big Yes, now compare it to the water. It's minuscule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 2 hours ago, TBJ said: Yes, now compare it to the water. It's minuscule. Wait, are we talking about tacos or sausage here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBJ Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 20 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: Wait, are we talking about tacos or sausage here? Gaping holes and a little smokey QB who couldn't fill it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 27 minutes ago, TBJ said: Gaping holes and a little smokey QB who couldn't fill it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TBJ Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 21 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: Open your freakin ears jerky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Oh ffs, **** Zach Wilson. The kid was a magnet for disaster. A mush. A total anchor. Soft. Dumb. A smaller, less likeable Darnold clone. From day 1. And IF Rodgers is a top 10 QB this year, you should take off for a while. I'm sure Denver has a fanboard somewhere. you can whinge about 8 over there.Idk. ... Rodgers seems to require the best OL possible and the Jets have prioritized this over all other needs . But yet Zach was expected to succeed with the complete opposite. Can't have it both ways.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rangers9 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Zach was assigned number 10 with Denver. He was no.1 at BYU and no. 2 with the Jets. That 10 could be temp since Bo Nix had no. 10 with Auburn and Ore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 On 4/25/2024 at 8:22 PM, rbstern said: I'm gonna make this prediction: He's opening day QB in Denver come September. And then Nix starts week 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 I see this thread wisely got unlocked. How ya feelin', Zach defenders? Think Zach is gonna beat out Bo Nix and Stidham for that QB1 spot to finally begin his true ascension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 On 4/25/2024 at 7:46 AM, Barton said: Like it or not, the Jets did NOT have a plan of development for Zach Wilson. He had no business starting as a rookie, which myself and a few others said the day he was drafted. That 2021 team had zero talent and a terrible coaching staff in offense/head coach. On top of that, he had minimal experience at a smallish school. The Jets absolutely failed Zach. And I’m a guy who is glad he is gone now but let’s call balls and strikes here. On 4/25/2024 at 10:42 AM, Warfish said: Looking at your history, you were a BIG Pro-Zach guy in terms of drafting him. But you did want him to sit a year, in fairness. Still wrong on Zach tho. He was never the right pick, plan or no plan. The correct "plan" for Zach Wilson: Don't draft Zach Wilson. Especially not in the same draft class with talent such as Ja'Marr Chase, Penei Sewell, Jaylen Waddle, Micah Parsons, Kyle Pitts, DeVonta Smith and Patrick Surtain II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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