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1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

The real problem on any football team is fielding an adequate quarterback.

yes, and that does not happen magically, it takes people who know how to identify one, and put them in a position to succeed, we don't have anyone who can do that. So in a year or two when we don't win a SB with Rodgers, it should be super fun letting Saleh and Hackett try to draft and develop the next QB, wooo hooo

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1 hour ago, Flea Flicking Frank said:

were talking about a real big hole here TBJ, not a little crack, like a porn stars gap, think that big

Yes, now compare it to the water.

It's minuscule.

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Oh ffs, **** Zach Wilson. The kid was a magnet for disaster. A mush. A total anchor. Soft. Dumb. A smaller, less likeable Darnold clone. From day 1. 
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And IF Rodgers is a top 10 QB this year, you should take off for a while. I'm sure Denver has a fanboard somewhere. you can whinge about 8 over there.
Idk. ... Rodgers seems to require the best OL possible and the Jets have prioritized this over all other needs . But yet Zach was expected to succeed with the complete opposite. Can't have it both ways.

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On 4/25/2024 at 7:46 AM, Barton said:

Like it or not, the Jets did NOT have a plan of development for Zach Wilson. He had no business starting as a rookie, which myself and a few others said the day he was drafted. That 2021 team had zero talent and a terrible coaching staff in offense/head coach. On top of that, he had minimal experience at a smallish school. The Jets absolutely failed Zach. And I’m a guy who is glad he is gone now but let’s call balls and strikes here. 

 

On 4/25/2024 at 10:42 AM, Warfish said:

Looking at your history, you were a BIG Pro-Zach guy in terms of drafting him.  But you did want him to sit a year, in fairness.

Still wrong on Zach tho.  He was never the right pick, plan or no plan.

 

The correct "plan" for Zach Wilson:  Don't draft Zach Wilson. 

Especially not in the same draft class with talent such as Ja'Marr Chase, Penei Sewell, Jaylen Waddle, Micah Parsons, Kyle Pitts, DeVonta Smith and Patrick Surtain II.

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On 4/27/2024 at 1:12 AM, Dunnie said:

Idk. ... Rodgers seems to require the best OL possible and the Jets have prioritized this over all other needs . But yet Zach was expected to succeed with the complete opposite. Can't have it both ways.

And yet:  For his first 2 seasons and 5 games in the league Zach Wilson had middle-of-the-pack pocket time and all other QBs (all of whom were immobile schlubs) who played with that same OL had a sack rate half as low as Zach Wilson's.

Just stop.  It's over.  Zach Wilson isn't beating out Bo Nix and Jarrett Stidham.

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52 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

The correct "plan" for Zach Wilson:  Don't draft Zach Wilson. 

Especially not in the same draft class with talent such as Ja'Marr Chase, Penei Sewell, Jaylen Waddle, Micah Parsons, Kyle Pitts, DeVonta Smith and Patrick Surtain II.

In my view, one of the Jets problems the past 15 or so years is we draft a QB when we shouldn't, and don't draft one when we should (we often led to then drafting one when we shouldn't).  Passing in 2017 because they really liked the 2018 class is an example.

Of course, we also just flat out draft the wrong QB's too.    

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1 hour ago, Warfish said:

In my view, one of the Jets problems the past 15 or so years is we draft a QB when we shouldn't, and don't draft one when we should (we often led to then drafting one when we shouldn't).  Passing in 2017 because they really liked the 2018 class is an example.

Of course, we also just flat out draft the wrong QB's too.    

Jets fans tend to be far more concerned about giving up on a failure QB too early than missing out on a legit QB because you stick with that sunken cost too long.

It's incredibly illogical. 

We passed on Mahomes largely because of the presence of Hackenberg yet Jets fans spend more time posting about the Darnold ascension that's never coming.  Zach is the next in that line of false reasoning.

If you can't successfully draft a good QB the next best thing is to "fail quickly".  Jets fans never advocate for that and it seems like Woody Johnson's Jets never do either.

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2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Jets fans tend to be far more concerned about giving up on a failure QB too early than missing out on a legit QB because you stick with that sunken cost too long.

It's incredibly illogical. 

We passed on Mahomes largely because of the presence of Hackenberg yet Jets fans spend more time posting about the Darnold ascension that's never coming.  Zach is the next in that line of false reasoning.

If you can't successfully draft a good QB the next best thing is to "fail quickly".  Jets fans never advocate for that and it seems like Woody Johnson's Jets never do either.

For example:  49ers shipping Lance to Cowboys for whatever they could get..  

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1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said:

Well, whatever they could get was a sh*tload more than whatever we could get.

That's really Bo Nix?  He looks older than me and I graduated in 1987.

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26 minutes ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said:

It's gonna be a WILD ride when Zach Wilson comes to Metlife this season and puts up his best game of his career. Who's ready?? 

 

I don’t think I’m capable of comprehending how much joy the Jets defense would get from laying Zach out early, often, and with great force. 

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