Michael Carter II extended 3 years

[nycdan]

1 minute ago, ARodJetsFan said:

I might be dead wrong, but personally, I think at least some of Huff's production and effieciency, was a result of the coaching and the defensive scheme he was playing in.

I would not be at all surprised, to see his numbers & his production drop this season.

I think it's both.  Huff is a great pass rusher.  His numbers exceeded every other guys in the same situations by a wide margin so it couldn't be all scheme and coaching.  Having said that, it will be truly fascinating if one of the new young guys can come close to replicating that this season.  If, in fact, one of them does, and Huff remains a 3rd down pass rush specialist, the Jets will come off looking pretty smart in all this.  Answers coming soon...

[Scott Dierking]

Just now, ARodJetsFan said:

I might be dead wrong, but personally, I think at least some of Huff's production and effieciency, was a result of the coaching and the defensive scheme he was playing in.

I would not be at all surprised, to see his numbers & his production drop this season.

I think that is a fair appraisal. Defensive line statistics are sometimes are misleading, by the attention others are getting, allowing favorable matchups for someone to compile stats in benefit. I always felt (and this stems from watching the Sack Exchange unit), that D-line stats are a unit amalgamation, and can't be swallowed in individual stats. 

[nycdan]

Just now, Scott Dierking said:

I think that is a fair appraisal. Defensive line statistics are sometimes are misleading, by the attention others are getting, allowing favorable matchups for someone to compile stats in benefit. I always felt (and this stems from watching the Sack Exchange unit), that D-line stats are a unit amalgamation, and can't be swallowed in individual stats. 

I mostly agree.  But then you occasionally see a guy like Aaron Donald that can't be explained by unit, coaching, or scheme.  

[Scott Dierking]

1 minute ago, Doggin94it said:

Sauce's contract will likely be in the 23-25M APY range, based on where the CB market is and who's coming up for an extension before him. His closest NFL comp and the player most in the conversation with him as "best CB in the NFL" is Pat Surtain II, who was drafted a year earlier. The Broncos picked up his 5th year option (obviously) for 2025, when he'll earn 19+M, and will probably look to extend him ahead of that option year. I could see him resetting the CB market to anywhere from 22-25M, and that'll absolutely be the baseline that both Sauce and the Jets use to level-set what an extension for Sauce should look like; I'd expect Sauce's final contract to basically be the Surtain deal plus 250K-1M or so (to give him "highest paid" bragging rights), though possibly with stronger guarantees or cash flows. Sauce isn't so far and away better than Surtain that he'll be expecting to blow away whatever deal Surtain lands.

Of course, the Broncos could blow up the market by giving Surtain 30M. But I doubt it.

That is if we don't trade Sauce for a couple of first round draft picks 😉. You know, because he sucks at turnovers. 

[Scott Dierking]

1 minute ago, nycdan said:

I mostly agree.  But then you occasionally see a guy like Aaron Donald that can't be explained by unit, coaching, or scheme.  

Maxx Crosby fits that too. But I still put my eggs in building a unit.

[nycdan]

1 minute ago, Scott Dierking said:

Maxx Crosby fits that too. But I still put my eggs in building a unit.

But....the Raiders are all awesome! 

 

[ARodJetsFan]

5 minutes ago, nycdan said:

I mostly agree.  But then you occasionally see a guy like Aaron Donald that can't be explained by unit, coaching, or scheme.  

Bryce Huff isn't even in the same universe as Aaron Donald.

[nycdan]

1 minute ago, ARodJetsFan said:

Bryce Huff isn't even in the same universe as Aaron Donald.

Wasn't saying anything remotely like that.  

[Sperm Edwards]

2 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

That is if we don't trade Sauce for a couple of first round draft picks 😉. You know, because he sucks at turnovers. 

A top secondary never helps with coverage sacks and pressure-induced throwaways. If they’re not intercepting passes it means they’re easily replaceable.

[Sperm Edwards]

2 minutes ago, ARodJetsFan said:

Bryce Huff isn't even in the same universe as Aaron Donald.

We are all in the same universe. 

[ToonforPrez]

12 hours ago, ARodJetsFan said:

This is MC-II extension is not related to a contract offer for Reddick, it doesn't kick in until next year, thus it has no bearing on our CAP for this season.

The Quincy Williams/Tyler Conklin restructures do affect the CAP this season & could be moves to set the table for a Reddick offer, but we'll see.

Certainly not holding my breath but it would be a nice addition to an already loaded team defensively.

 

[ARodJetsFan]

19 minutes ago, nycdan said:

Wasn't saying anything remotely like that.  

I know, just busting your chops.

[jamesr]

Related to the wider CB extension discussion : https://www.nfl.com/news/broncos-cb-patrick-surtain-ii-four-year-96-million-extension

Link / headline says enough - 4 years, 96m for Surtain, so that will give a steer on what Sauce will be looking to top whenever they get round to extending him. Likely also plays a role in what Reed will be looking for and our chances of retaining him (or not).

 

[Doggin94it]

1 hour ago, Doggin94it said:

Sauce's contract will likely be in the 23-25M APY range, based on where the CB market is and who's coming up for an extension before him. His closest NFL comp and the player most in the conversation with him as "best CB in the NFL" is Pat Surtain II, who was drafted a year earlier. The Broncos picked up his 5th year option (obviously) for 2025, when he'll earn 19+M, and will probably look to extend him ahead of that option year. I could see him resetting the CB market to anywhere from 22-25M, and that'll absolutely be the baseline that both Sauce and the Jets use to level-set what an extension for Sauce should look like; I'd expect Sauce's final contract to basically be the Surtain deal plus 250K-1M or so (to give him "highest paid" bragging rights), though possibly with stronger guarantees or cash flows. Sauce isn't so far and away better than Surtain that he'll be expecting to blow away whatever deal Surtain lands.

Of course, the Broncos could blow up the market by giving Surtain 30M. But I doubt it.

And, of course, as I say this the Broncos extend Surtain for 4x96M. That's a 24M APY if they tore up the fifth year option, or 115M over 5 years (23M APY) if they made 2026-29 the extension years. Either way, that puts Sauce right in the 25M APY range we were discussing. 

[JKlecko]

14 hours ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said:

You realize that's what a free agent is basically? 

I get it. I get it. You're mad it him. 

No, it isn't.  With a FA, his contract has expired, so then you're signing him to a new contract.  You're not tearing up an old contract, or adding an extension on top of an existing contract.  There's a difference between signing a FA to a one-year deal, he plays really well, and then you give him an extension, and trading for a player who has a contract that is in effect for one more year and extending him before he ever plays a down for your team.  Perhaps I didn't state it will originally, but there's a distinct difference.  

You're right about one thing, however.  I am pissed at Reddick and don't really want him on the team.  I'm going to have a very difficult time rooting for him once he does show up.

[jetsons]

I never really heard Michael speak in depth, he seems like a truly genuine person. I wish You Only The Best, Michael. 

 

[Larz]

Sauce is going to want “best defender” Money like Revis wanted. 
 

He’s going to get probably $27 million a year average. 
 

And he’s worth it. 

[LAD_Brooklyn]

Glad we're locking up top performers. Hopefully we get to the point in which we have no funds to pay out to JAGs like Conklin, Uzomah, Kinlaw, Tomlinson, Simpson etc.The cause of this of course would be locking up the nucleus of good-great players we have.

[RedBeardedSavage]

33 minutes ago, LAD_Brooklyn said:

Glad we're locking up top performers. Hopefully we get to the point in which we have no funds to pay out to JAGs like Conklin, Uzomah, Kinlaw, Tomlinson, Simpson etc.The cause of this of course would be locking up the nucleus of good-great players we have.

Agree with all of that - good to lock up our own draft picks, and good business not relying on vets in free agency.

But I like the Kinlaw signing.  It’s a dice roll for sure, but he was a first round pick, he played well last season, this coaching staff is great with defensive lineman. 

Every year we sign a vet DT to put next to Quinnen: Quinton Jefferson, Sheldon Rankins. 

Yes, Kinlaw is the most expensive, but he’s also got the highest upside.

I like that move.

[Snook]

38 minutes ago, LAD_Brooklyn said:

Glad we're locking up top performers. Hopefully we get to the point in which we have no funds to pay out to JAGs like Conklin, Uzomah, Kinlaw, Tomlinson, Simpson etc.The cause of this of course would be locking up the nucleus of good-great players we have.

You do realize we have to fill out a roster?

[Maynard13]

Cant find any info on this anywhere

[GangGreened]

MC3

[Maynard13]

If these clowns from SNY meant M Carter, which is OLD NEWS by now, its a despicable trick to get ratings.  

[Maynard13]

1 minute ago, GangGreened said:

MC3

Yea thats just a pathetic trick on the heels of Reddick hanging in the wings. I figured after a few minutes after seeing the ticker on SNY.  As soon as he signs, it will be ALL OVER THE PLACE. SNY AZZHOLES

[TuscanyTile2]

Mo Wilkerson

[Jet_Engine1]

[Maynard13]

18 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Nothing go back to bed and dream of fire engines going wooo wooo woooo

[LAD_Brooklyn]

3 hours ago, Snook said:

You do realize we have to fill out a roster?

All team do but the Jets have a tendency on wasting a huge amount of cash spending/cap space on mid-tier players who are boom or bust and don't make much of a difference. They're barely above replacement level most of the times. I'll take the quality over quantity and fill the roster out rather then allowing or good players to walk. 

[LAD_Brooklyn]

3 hours ago, RedBeardedSavage said:

Agree with all of that - good to lock up our own draft picks, and good business not relying on vets in free agency.

But I like the Kinlaw signing.  It’s a dice roll for sure, but he was a first round pick, he played well last season, this coaching staff is great with defensive lineman. 

Every year we sign a vet DT to put next to Quinnen: Quinton Jefferson, Sheldon Rankins. 

Yes, Kinlaw is the most expensive, but he’s also got the highest upside.

I like that move.

I like the pick as well despite him fitting the mold of boom or bust. I would of hated the signing if it was the cause of us not re-signing one of our own FAs. This wasn't the case this season but next year and an entirely different scenario we'll have going on. 

[JohnnyLV]

On 9/3/2024 at 4:15 PM, Larz said:

WOW

 

L:ol, we got no comments on the chart. Three amazing things:

1. MC2 is clearly the #1 slot corner in the NFL

2. Our 3 main CBs are all in the upper right quadrant. All ELITE

3. ELITE does not really apply to  Sauce. He is just on another Planet all of his own

Love the move but if we turn around and extend Riddick now the Jets are fools.

[jetspenguin]

L:ol, we got no comments on the chart. Three amazing things:
1. MC2 is clearly the #1 slot corner in the NFL
2. Our 3 main CBs are all in the upper right quadrant. All ELITE
3. ELITE does not really apply to  Sauce. He is just on another Planet all of his own
Love the move but if we turn around and extend Riddick now the Jets are fools.

Then we are about to be fools. This is definitely a part of the Riddick plan.

Sent from the FOREVER AND EVER Suicide Watch desk.

[Biggs]

On 9/3/2024 at 6:48 PM, Wizard C said:

This is a Joe Douglas FU to Reddick. Glad this deal is done! 

It's to soften the blow when JD caves to Reddick this week. 

[Jack Straw]

On 9/3/2024 at 6:46 PM, Bronx said:

The only way he will earn respect is by showing up and being a humble teammate. It will take time for fans to forgive and forget, but as long as he is producing at the highest level, we will forgive him. 

Meh, no NFL player holds a grudge when a teammate holds out over a contract dispute. They all understand that it's players vs. management, and it's about securing the money they believe they're entitled to. Everyone is in the same fight - there are no hard feelings among players when someone is pushing for what they deserve.

Fans, on other hand, are not so understanding. 
 

[Jerichoholic]

He'll yeah!


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[Barton]

Lotta coin for a nickelback. Really good player in all phases though but man, this team just focuses on defense alittle too much.