GandWFan Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 he is tall (6'6"), they say he has an NFL arm... Could he be "the one"? I think the knock on him coming out of Tennesse was that he was inconsistent, but he did play in the SEC, against good defenses. A question for those who follow SEC and/or Tennesse Vols... does he have "it"? Is he accurate? quick release? good decisions? can drive the ball outside the numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishooked Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Im pretty sure the word on him was that he didn't have a great arm...I dunno the kid was already hurt a lot last year and he didn't even play. Didn't he also get suspended for steroids too? Not a great start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GandWFan Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 Im pretty sure the word on him was that he didn't have a great arm...I dunno the kid was already hurt a lot last year and he didn't even play. Didn't he also get suspended for steroids too? Not a great start. yeah, he didn't play much, had a broken pinkie finger and got busted for steriods about halfway through the season, after he was on IR I think. he is kind of thin at 220, so maybe the roids thing shows he is trying... Anyway, that is why I was asking about his college career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 For QBs, I think we are all set. Ainge/Radcliff/Clemmens pick one and build a game changing defense to compliment. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 He barely made the team this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I really can't possibly see how we are "all set" with Ainge, Clemens, and Ratcliff as our QB options at all. QB is a HUGE issue for this team if Favre doesn't return. Hell, it's an issue even if he does return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 you mean future Hall Of Famer Erik Ainge.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GandWFan Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 you mean future Hall Of Famer Erik Ainge.... yup... that's the one... is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 How are the Jets all set at qb? especially if Favre retires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I really can't possibly see how we are "all set" with Ainge, Clemens, and Ratcliff as our QB options at all. QB is a HUGE issue for this team if Favre doesn't return. Hell, it's an issue even if he does return. Ratcliff, like the harry potter boy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Im pretty sure the word on him was that he didn't have a great arm...I dunno the kid was already hurt a lot last year and he didn't even play. Didn't he also get suspended for steroids too? Not a great start. He wasn't as much hurt as the FO was trying to find a creative way to keep him on the team. The Jets had Favre, Clemens, and Ratliff who were making the team. They couldn't put Ainge on the practice squad because another team would have snatched him up. So, they carried 4 QBs for a couple of weeks until they could find a reason to put Ainge on IR, which they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I really can't possibly see how we are "all set" with Ainge, Clemens, and Ratcliff as our QB options at all. QB is a HUGE issue for this team if Favre doesn't return. Hell, it's an issue even if he does return. I think with a stronger defense that ryan will hopefully implement, an impact wr from fa/trade/draft, and maybe a late round flyer pick on defense that pans out decently, we will be fine with Favre for the year. Before our defense collapsed last year we were doing fine when we were always working with leads, I think our defense was really only hitting about 80% of its potential due to bad coaching/planning and I am hopeful Ryan gets them to play at their potential. Guys who most would agree did not play up to expectation for an entire season rhodes/harris/pace/jenkins/gholston were for one reason or another not the guy they should have been (although in jenkins who was a beast most of the year and harris it was due to injuries) and if ryan figures out how to use those guys we could be a top flight feared defense. It is part wishful thinking, but at one time or another last season all those guys showed what they are capable of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 good post Joe...the thing is we have some pretty good players and as Baltimore showed this year you can get by with a not great QB...hell had Clemens played those last 5 games we would have been IN the playoffs this past year...I agree with Joe124 in that I will be OK with Kellen Clemens starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 i seriously don't understand how year in and year out peopel claim that we are good to go at qb. we haven't been good to go at qb for along time. the most important position on the team and we have a big fat ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 QB is definately the biggest question mark on this team. I would not dismiss the notion of Clemens, Ratliff, or Ainge being the 2009 starter, however. The thing is, if Schotty remains, these 3 would be in another year in the system. All 3 will participate fully in the offseason conditioning program and OTAs. Any one of these three could show up at training camp significantly better than he did last year. It's happened in the past with other QBs and other players throughout the league. So I would not write any of the three off. They have their NFL future in their hands now. I have not heard anything about either of the 3 being lazy, so I'd think that they would work diligently in the offseason. Clemens and Ratliff most certainly would because it's in their financial best interest (Clemens will be a UFA) and Ratliff a RFA. The bottom line is that we should not be dismissive of the three because if they're financially smart, they'd use this offseason to make themselves better football players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I really don't see how anybody mentions Ainge as a possibility at starting QB. He was selected in the fifth round-so even the Jets can't have been that high on him. Didn't get a chance to show anything in preseason. He is at the point that he has to show something this year or be dropped from the team. If he shows something fine, but is he even worth discussing? Good luck to the guy, hope he surprises us, but obviously the Jets aren't counting on him for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I really don't see how anybody mentions Ainge as a possibility at starting QB. He was selected in the fifth round-so even the Jets can't have been that high on him. Didn't get a chance to show anything in preseason. He is at the point that he has to show something this year or be dropped from the team. If he shows something fine, but is he even worth discussing? Good luck to the guy, hope he surprises us, but obviously the Jets aren't counting on him for anything. Anybody with QB experience is a possibility. Is that sad? Yes. Yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Assuming Favre does not come back, there is no reason that Ainge will not be given a chance to win the job along with Clemens and Ratliff in a true open competition. Unless they pick up some proven vet, which is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gang_green03 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 He's less talented than both Clemens and Ratliff, has shown even less than both of them, and wasn't a very highly regarded prospect to begin with. If he becomes a good backup we should be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTime Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Ratcliff baby...I beileve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I'm not saying I support Ainge, or think he's a franchise QB, or even a competent starter. But this is a fact: Erik Ainge put up better numbers than Matt Ryan in 2007, and in the SEC no less. You can look it up. Just food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I'm not saying I support Ainge, or think he's a franchise QB, or even a competent starter. But this is a fact: Erik Ainge put up better numbers than Matt Ryan in 2007, and in the SEC no less. You can look it up. Just food for thought. I looked it up. Ryan: 4507 yards, 31 TD, 19 INT Ainge: 3522 yards, 31 TD, 10 INT Can you name a WR or RB that played for BC in 2007? I can't and I watch most of their games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 If Ainge gets into a three-way contest with Clemens and Ratliff and wins the job, more power to him. On the other hand, there is an excellent chance that if Favre retires they bring in another vet and Ainge gets cut. He is at least as close to getting cut from the team as he is to starting or even being number two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I looked it up. Ryan: 4507 yards, 31 TD, 19 INT Ainge: 3522 yards, 31 TD, 10 INT Can you name a WR or RB that played for BC in 2007? I can't and I watch most of their games. Can you name a WR or RB that played for Tennessee in 2007? I like Ainge. He has a great pedigree. Four year starter at an SEC school. I'd say he deserves as much of a crack at the starting job as Clemens or Ratliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Ainge is GARBAGE. He was GARBAGE in every single big game he ever played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Im pretty sure the word on him was that he didn't have a great arm...I dunno the kid was already hurt a lot last year and he didn't even play. Didn't he also get suspended for steroids too? Not a great start. The steroids really don't bother me since I think he was using them to help speed his rehab from injury. To me that's OK. It's not as if he's Hulk Hogan. What does worry me about him is his lack of a really strong arm. Hopefully new HC Rex will leave the 3 roster QB's (I'm assuming Favre will be gone ) battle it out to determine the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 The steroids really don't bother me since I think he was using them to help speed his rehab from injury. To me that's OK. It's not as if he's Hulk Hogan. What does worry me about him is his lack of a really strong arm. Hopefully new HC Rex will leave the 3 roster QB's (I'm assuming Favre will be gone ) battle it out to determine the starter. Never say a bad word about Rodney Harrison ever again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Ainge is GARBAGE. He was GARBAGE in every single big game he ever played. I'll be honest & say I didn't watch the game. But in his last bowl game, it seems he threw for a couple hundred yards and a couple of touchdowns to a bunch of nobodies while his backs gave him no help at all in the running game and Tennessee's defense let Wisconsin's RBs run all over them, eat up the clock, and keep their own defense fresh. But that's only reading it on paper. I didn't see the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I'll be honest & say I didn't watch the game. But in his last bowl game, it seems he threw for a couple hundred yards and a couple of touchdowns to a bunch of nobodies while his backs gave him no help at all in the running game and Tennessee's defense let Wisconsin's RBs run all over them, eat up the clock, and keep their own defense fresh. But that's only reading it on paper. I didn't see the game. Living down here and watching a lot of his games, he was notorious for throwing picks when the game was on the line and in big games. Most SEC fans will back this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Living down here and watching a lot of his games, he was notorious for throwing picks when the game was on the line and in big games. Most SEC fans will back this up. I'm not doubting it, and he may be the worst QB to ever get drafted in NFL history. But I don't know who any of his WR's were in 2007. I don't think any got drafted last year nor are any expected to get drafted this year. Not even in the later rounds. Brad Cottam got drafted late by KC in 2008, but he appears to have done little other than nurse injuries during the '07 season & didn't even suit up for the first 9 games. It's a lot easier to look good when you have good receivers getting open with relative ease. That goes for any QB. From the looks of it, imagine the Jets WR corps without Coles & Cotchery. Then try to find fault with the QB for throwing 31 TD's & 10 picks in 14 games. Hell, he's still only 22 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsman Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I havnt seen much from Ainge, but I would like to see him in training camp , he didnt do too well last year and Ratliff beat both him and Kellen out in preseason IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I havnt seen much from Ainge, but I would like to see him in training camp , he didnt do too well last year and Ratliff beat both him and Kellen out in preseason IMO. He was still 21 years old when the Jets drafted him. How many QB's don't suck at the NFL level at that age? He may continue to suck. Going strictly by the odds, he probably will. But he's still a very young kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsman Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 He was still 21 years old when the Jets drafted him. How many QB's don't suck at the NFL level at that age? He may continue to suck. Going strictly by the odds, he probably will. But he's still a very young kid. that is expected , rookies almost always take time to acclimate to the pro game. We will see how he looks when camp opens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 that is expected , rookies almost always take time to acclimate to the pro game. We will see how he looks when camp opens. The reason to be optimistic is because 124 says he's awful. This means three things are possible: 1) Ainge will not be a bust, 2) Ainge will be a HOF QB, and 3) Ainge will go to a couple of superbowls in his first 5 years as a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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