jetscott Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 canned, just out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 He's gunna make a hell of a coach somewhere, sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Browns fired head coach Eric Mangini. Club president Mike Holmgren met with Mangini at 9AM Monday to give him his walking papers. His two-year run in Cleveland ends with a 10-22 record, and a four-game losing streak to close out the 2010 season. Mangini has been linked to the head coaching vacancy at UConn. Assuming Holmgren doesn't return to the sideline, he is expected to give long looks to Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg and ex-Panthers head coach John Fox. I guess this makes Gato wrong twice about this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 He's gunna make a hell of a coach somewhere, sometime. Guys just didn't give him enough time to develop... er, wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscott Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 he should stick to guest appearances on the sopranos. Josh Mcdaniels is the next Mangini. Fired once already and will be again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Any truth to the rumor that Belichick wants him back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Mangini has been linked to the head coaching vacancy at UConn. The college game is probably a good plan for him. It's either that or a DC job in the NFL, and I don't see anyone hiring him as that off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 It's hard to keep your job going 10-22 with a 4 game losing streak, and a home blowout loss. UConn makes most sense for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 The college game is probably a good plan for him. It's either that or a DC job in the NFL, and I don't see anyone hiring him as that off the top of my head. 5 game winning streak could have saved him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 It's hard to keep your job going 10-22 with a 4 game losing streak, and a home blowout loss. UConn makes most sense for him. Yes, because if there's one thing that's evident about Mangini, it's his ability to relate to the youth of America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 FWIW the Big East definitely makes the most sense for him, jokes aside. It would give him ample time to inflate his record against a joke of a conference so people could start talking about his uncanny knack for the X's and O's side of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 the world needs ditch diggers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Bigger question here is not whether Eric M gets a job but whether or not Holmgren goes back to the sideline as the next HC of the Browns. I think he does because he is as good as any candidate out there and will serve as HC/GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Any truth to the rumor that Belichick wants him back? I seriously doubt it. Bringing him back would be about the only thing BB could do to get the fans to turn on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I seriously doubt it. Bringing him back would be about the only thing BB could do to get the fans to turn on him. Yeah right, you, pats fans, and the media would spin that to be another calculated genius move by BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget Love 20 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 SIGN THIS BEAST....in the CFL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Yeah right, you, pats fans, and the media would spin that to be another calculated genius move by BB. In general I take the attitude of "In Bill Belichick I trust" but if he was to hire EM back I would be seriously pissed at BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I seriously doubt it. Bringing him back would be about the only thing BB could do to get the fans to turn on him. Belichickin: Eric, you do not yet realize your importance. You have only begun to discover your power. Join me, and I will complete your training. Mangini: I'll never join you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Mangini taking the Browns job was a terrible mistake and the Browns hiring him was an even bigger one. Mangini's run with the Jets was a big failure. The team collapsed on 2007 and he did not have a good handle on the team in 2008. There were games where he would make their somewhat strange moves that almost always backfired and he was terribly inflexible during the game itself. Great coaches always stray from a gameplan when the situation simply is not turning out as expected. Mangini always would always stick with it. When you go through that experience you have to step away from football and rethink your philosophy. Jumping from failure 1 right to a new job is just going to equal failure number 2 and getting that third chance in the NFL is very hard, though he is young enough to where it could happen. His no nonsense style might work in college, but I just cant see him recruiting at all. I dont know what NFL teams would be interested either. Hes pretty much burned his bridges with the Belichick guys. Maybe the Chiefs guys being gone when that all went down would give him a chance as an assistant. But right now Id imagine his NFL connections are basically Mike Tannenbaum and the Ryans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Good points, Jason. Bleedin & I mentioned this 2 years ago: career wise, the worst thing to happen to Mangini was getting the Browns guys. It rewarded him for his mistakes so he had no incentive to improve because it made it look like his methods worked. They don't. Of course, certain posters staunchly disagreed with us and pointing out him getting a job so quickly as proof Mangini was a good HC. No, it just meant that Lerner was an idiot. I've seen people claim that Mangini has a "good football mind" but as Terry Bradshaw has aptly said, "The world is filled with talented failures." I disagree with Jason in one respect: I think Mangini could be an effective recruiting for UConn or a similar situated school. He'll recruit the less talented hard working kids and they won't be getting a scholarship for a big time school anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Yes, because if there's one thing that's evident about Mangini, it's his ability to relate to the youth of America. Problem is how many 18-year olds will be inclined to get treated like garbage. It's not 1968 and he's not Bobby Knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Hes pretty much burned his bridges with the Belichick guys. Maybe the Chiefs guys being gone when that all went down would give him a chance as an assistant. But right now Id imagine his NFL connections are basically Mike Tannenbaum and the Ryans. The head "Chiefs guy" Scott Pioli was there in 2007. He left at the end of the 2008 season, he burned that bridge as well. He doesn't have much of a connection with Rex, I don't see the Jets hiring him back. His only shot might be if Rob Ryan gets a head coaching gig, Rob hiring him. That of course assumes Rob respects him and thinks the flip flop would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 The head "Chiefs guy" Scott Pioli was there in 2007. He left at the end of the 2008 season, he burned that bridge as well. He doesn't have much of a connection with Rex, I don't see the Jets hiring him back. His only shot might be if Rob Ryan gets a head coaching gig, Rob hiring him. That of course assumes Rob respects him and thinks the flip flop would work. Hard to imagine Rob being dumb enough to risk his shot @ HC for this. Mangini should be a DIII college coach... I think that is the environment his approach is best suited for. I said it after his first year with us. He has an old time ball coach approach, but he doesn't have the acumen to be successful at the NFL level. I do think at a level where hard work often over-compensates for lack of talent, he can succeed. Translation: Stick him at a school filled with scrappy guys, with good manners, and he'll do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Mangini taking the Browns job was a terrible mistake and the Browns hiring him was an even bigger one. Mangini's run with the Jets was a big failure. The team collapsed on 2007 and he did not have a good handle on the team in 2008. There were games where he would make their somewhat strange moves that almost always backfired and he was terribly inflexible during the game itself. Great coaches always stray from a gameplan when the situation simply is not turning out as expected. Mangini always would always stick with it. When you go through that experience you have to step away from football and rethink your philosophy. Jumping from failure 1 right to a new job is just going to equal failure number 2 and getting that third chance in the NFL is very hard, though he is young enough to where it could happen. His no nonsense style might work in college, but I just cant see him recruiting at all. I dont know what NFL teams would be interested either. Hes pretty much burned his bridges with the Belichick guys. Maybe the Chiefs guys being gone when that all went down would give him a chance as an assistant. But right now Id imagine his NFL connections are basically Mike Tannenbaum and the Ryans. The guy made what, 5M or 6M over the last 2 years? I wish I could make a mistake like that. I don't even know how much he has left on his deal, so there could be more coming his way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Translation: Stick him at a school filled with scrappy guys, with good manners, and he'll do well. Northwestern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 In general I take the attitude of "In Bill Belichick I trust" but if he was to hire EM back I would be seriously pissed at BB. Why? What has Mangini done to you personally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Hard to imagine Rob being dumb enough to risk his shot @ HC for this. EM isn't cut out to be a HC. But plenty of guys are outstanding assistants but can't handle the #1 job. Neither of us really know what Eric and Rob's relationship is. Rob made a lateral move to work under Eric. It is quite possible they have a good enough relationship that Rob would hire him. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 The college game is probably a good plan for him. It's either that or a DC job in the NFL, and I don't see anyone hiring him as that off the top of my head. This...it's a good idea for the guy to get away from the NFL for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 EM wasn't a terrible HC. Very, very few head coaches could have succeeded in Cle the past 2 years. The NFL is a QB league and he just didn't have one: Anderson, Quinn, Delhome, Wallace, and McCoy. That on top of the Favre debacle was the end of Mangini. I thought his first year in NY he did a great job of getting the Herm stench off of this team and came up with some very creative gameplans. The trouble was in yr 2+3 he became a victim of no Qb. There are really no examples of teams succeeding w/o NFL Qb's. The most frustrating part of Mangini was his refusal to make in-game adjustments. I still remember the SEA game from 08 when the Jets had to win vs. Seneca Wallace and just wouldn't make any changes during the game. That was one of the most frustrating games in recent memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 the world needs ditch diggers too. LOL - and pizza delivery guys - he can always go back to his roots. oh .... and btw ... F that mope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 even at uconn they won't want to run laps ! lol if I was a browns fan I be pissed, what a wasted year under holmgren, they should have fired him last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bx Jet Fan Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Mangini ought to wind up at West Point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 the world needs ditch diggers too. lol that line never gets old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Mangini taking the Browns job was a terrible mistake and the Browns hiring him was an even bigger one. Mangini's run with the Jets was a big failure. The team collapsed on 2007 and he did not have a good handle on the team in 2008. There were games where he would make their somewhat strange moves that almost always backfired and he was terribly inflexible during the game itself. Great coaches always stray from a gameplan when the situation simply is not turning out as expected. Mangini always would always stick with it. When you go through that experience you have to step away from football and rethink your philosophy. Jumping from failure 1 right to a new job is just going to equal failure number 2 and getting that third chance in the NFL is very hard, though he is young enough to where it could happen. His no nonsense style might work in college, but I just cant see him recruiting at all. I dont know what NFL teams would be interested either. Hes pretty much burned his bridges with the Belichick guys. Maybe the Chiefs guys being gone when that all went down would give him a chance as an assistant. But right now Id imagine his NFL connections are basically Mike Tannenbaum and the Ryans. Great post, and I have to admit to SMC that he was right in that Mangini should not have taken this 2nd job so quickly. Completely agreed on the connections point, and neither Ryan is big time enough to throw him on their staff. The guy had to hire friggin Daboll as his OC. He couldn't get a DC when he was here, and had to take the organization's longtime LB coach, Sutton. He's burned so many bridges that he's going to have to rebuild his whole image as a coach to get back into the NFL. He's got a good eye for good no-nonsense type players and I think it would serve him well to go down to the college level and just coach up some kids and build up a program. I hope he gets the UConn job, though there's a rumor out there that the awesome Mike Leach might get the job. Also, he needs to be less nice. The press absolutely ate him up in the NFL to the point where he had to get on WFAN and give that hilarious heart felt interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 This isn't exactly Rich Kotite here. The guy's is a legitimate coach with some success and a decent enough resume to get a crack on somebody else's staff who's looking to boost his defense, even if it's just as a glorified DB coach. It would do Eric well to work under a coach who hasn't sold his soul to Satan for the right to win football games--learn a new perspective on how to prepare a team, connect with players, discipline them and motivate them. I think Eric's major issue has always been that he tries to replicate what Belichick does with his players, but without Belichick's winning pedigree or the 40 years spent watching game film. Someobody will hire him as an assistant--Gruden?--and he'll get another HC chance down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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