Ghost Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 He was yapping about how he thinks we're going to have another issue with Holmes due to the sole reason of him NOT getting the ball again this season. He also mentioned how we were throwing the ball 5 yards from the line of scrimmage at Training Camp and how we're not going to beat anyone in this league doing that. Unfortunately, I do agree with him. I saw a couple of tweets about receivers having trouble getting separation and this just reminds me of sh*tty again. I can't help but ask whether our WRs need to improve or our CBs are too damn good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 With the stable of backs we have, I dont see the running game blowing anyone off the ball like we were able to do in 2009/10....so the ball is going to be in Sanchez's hands again....then come the fumbles, the int's....and then Tebow time. I dont get what this team is trying to do offensively. I really really hope Powell can be a guy that pick up yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 He was yapping about how he thinks we're going to have another issue with Holmes due to the sole reason of him NOT getting the ball again this season. He also mentioned how we were throwing the ball 5 yards from the line of scrimmage at Training Camp and how we're not going to beat anyone in this league doing that. Unfortunately, I do agree with him. I saw a couple of tweets about receivers having trouble getting separation and this just reminds me of sh*tty again. I can't help but ask whether our WRs need to improve or our CBs are too damn good? I assume he was referring to the offense. Either way, Chris Carter is a complete moron. He's siting the 3rd day of training camp as a prediction on what we'll see during the season? FWIW - all of the Dolphag receivers during the Sparano's tenure averaged over 10ypc and the X, Y receivers were usually up in the 12-15 range. The whole idea of ground and pound is to get 8 guys in the box and go over top with the size and speed we've attained this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 I really do believe in Rex and his philosophy. Just look at the 49ers last year. Their identity is extremely similar to ours and it's running the ball and playing defense. However, their passing offense is much better than ours. I'm not saying they have more talent than us but you saw more 20+ yard passes with them. I hope TS knows that, because completing 6 receptions for 20 yards or more in one season is inexcusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I really do believe in Rex and his philosophy. Just look at the 49ers last year. Their identity is extremely similar to ours and it's running the ball and playing defense. However, their passing offense is much better than ours. I'm not saying they have more talent than us but you saw more 20+ yard passes with them. I hope TS knows that, because completing 6 receptions for 20 yards or more in one season is inexcusable. The 49'ers passing offense is better than ours? Interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 OMG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 How dare he! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Its over already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 With the stable of backs we have, I dont see the running game blowing anyone off the ball like we were able to do in 2009/10....so the ball is going to be in Sanchez's hands again....then come the fumbles, the int's....and then Tebow time. I dont get what this team is trying to do offensively. I really really hope Powell can be a guy that pick up yards. While LT had a pretty decent year in 2010, I'm not sure it would be all that hard for this group to be as good as the 2009 group, as they were hardly anything to write home about. Jones sucked, Washington was a major disappointment once given a larger role in the offense and Greene, who was arguably the best of the bunch, is now the starter. The bigger question would be if this OL can open holes for a set of mediocre backs the same way that 2009 group did and if not, that's when it becomes necessary for these RBs to turn out to be not just as good as, but quite better, than their predecessors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 While LT had a pretty decent year in 2010, I'm not sure it would be all that hard for this group to be as good as the 2009 group, as they were hardly anything to write home about. Jones sucked, Washington was a major disappointment once given a larger role in the offense and Greene, who was arguably the best of the bunch, is now the starter. The bigger question would be if this OL can open holes for a set of mediocre backs the same way that 2009 group did and if not, that's when it becomes necessary for these RBs to turn out to be not just as good as, but quite better, than their predecessors. My take on this is pretty much Damien Woody was really freaking good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 We need that offensive line to play much better than last year- it contributed to Sanchez's poor year among other factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 cris carter is a douche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Was Carter mind numbingly, speech slurring drunk again while sharing his sagacity? He is beyond moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Unfortunately, I do agree with him. I saw a couple of tweets about receivers having trouble getting separation and this just reminds me of sh*tty again. I can't help but ask whether our WRs need to improve or our CBs are too damn good? What's the common denominator in our offense since 2009? Think hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 And the answer isn't Dustin Keller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 What's the common denominator in our offense since 2009? Think hard. Dustin Keller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Dustin Keller. Read the post above it, fag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 The Jets offense isn't good. BOLD STATEMENTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I really do believe in Rex and his philosophy. Just look at the 49ers last year. Their identity is extremely similar to ours and it's running the ball and playing defense. However, their passing offense is much better than ours. I'm not saying they have more talent than us but you saw more 20+ yard passes with them. I hope TS knows that, because completing 6 receptions for 20 yards or more in one season is inexcusable. False. Sanchez had dozens more downfield pass attempts than Alex Smith last year. I don't have 20+ yard numbers but it isn't likely much different than 15+. Smith attempted the 6th-lowest percentage of 15+ yard passes last season. Compound that with the 49ers attempting the 2nd-fewest total number of 15+ yard passes last season and you have a team that is far more likely to throw underneath than were the 2011 Jets to the tune of an extra 3 attempts every single game. By the way, in addition to Alex Smith, here are some other QB's who attempted deeper passes on a lower percentage of attempts than Sanchez did: Drew Brees Tom Brady Matthew Stafford Matt Hasselbeck Tony Romo Matt Ryan Jay Cutler The problem isn't that Sanchez isn't attempting them. The problem is he isn't completing them. Q: Which NFL QB was the most likely to attempt a downfield pass last year? A: Tim Tebow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 The 49'ers passing offense is better than ours? Interesting... explain how you define better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 explain how you define better Less likely to throw downfield and protects the QB worse. Of course. On any given dropback, despite looking downfield a whole lot less, Alex Smith was about 30% more likely to get sacked than Mark Sanchez in 2011. Compound that with Sanchez not being as mobile as Smith. But our OL is to blame for Sanchez's terriblocity. Or so I'm told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Just to fill out the stats- Alex Smith threw about 11% of his attempts down the field and 19.7% between 10 and 20 yards. Sanchez was higher in both categories (11.3% and 25.5%). The thing was Smith was freakishly good in the big pass category last year because nobody expected him to throw the ball. He completed more than 40% of his 20+ passes, which was 7th best in the NFL while only being picked off on 3.9% of his attempts, 8th best. Sanchez was 29.8% and 10.5%, which ranked 29th and 30th. They were both much closer in the 10-20 yard category (57% vs 52% comp % and very few turnovers). Id imagine it would be near impossible for Smith to duplicate the success again in those long passes, but right now there is little reason to expect Sanchez to magically get great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 How does this guy have a job? I mean, I don't even care about what he said about the Jets. Irrelevant. This guys is THE worst in the business right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 We need that offensive line to play much better than last year- it contributed to Sanchez's poor year among other factors. The main thing to consider with this point, which I agree with by the way, is that both Mangold AND the main OL backup Robert Turner went down last season. On top of that we bumped up a backup (hunter) to a starting role with no training camp. We did have time to fix the Turner depth issue and for that the Jets brass are responsible. I personally see every reason to believe that the O line play will improve over last year and potentially be dominant. Think about Slauson playing through a torn shoulder or whatever it was all of last season too, but there was not even the threat of anyone taking his job. Now training camp started with him in fear for his job. That can only help things. If Ducasse finally plays up to his draft status and takes the job great. If Slauson, healed from the surgery, plays his balls off to keep his job without his old O line coach here to protect him, well that's good news too. I think the Jets are being greatly underrated right now and I F*CKIN love it!!! The O line being one of the main reasons I feel this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 How does this guy have a job? I mean, I don't even care about what he said about the Jets. Irrelevant. This guys is THE worst in the business right now. him and steve young are HORRIBLE broadcasters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Chris Carter? I don't pay attention to anything that shoe polish eyebrowed dildo has to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Anything at all? Wow. What if he was like "DMaynard, you are being followed by dark forces" or something serious like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I really do believe in Rex and his philosophy. Just look at the 49ers last year. Their identity is extremely similar to ours and it's running the ball and playing defense. However, their passing offense is much better than ours. I'm not saying they have more talent than us but you saw more 20+ yard passes with them. I hope TS knows that, because completing 6 receptions for 20 yards or more in one season is inexcusable. And the Niners spent the whole 2nd half of theNFC chmpionship watching their offense screw the pooch series after series, while their defense got worn down and eventually broke. You have to score points to win. That requires a competent passing attack. A run-oriented team hasn't won the Super Bowl since the Ravens in 2001. But if "identity" ges you a trophy clue the rest of us in about what the identity trophy is called. The Eagles, for example, have convinced their fan base there is a trophy for cap management, but doesn't appear to be a big ceremony for that either. In fact on several occasions Super Bowl champs violated the cap rules(the Steve Young Niners, the Broncos) and still hung onto their Lombardis. And we can all agree Cris Carter is a dick, cant' we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I'd just like to let everyone know, I could sleep last night knowing the Cris Carter thinks the Jets "arent that good". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Anything at all? Wow. What if he was like "DMaynard, you are being followed by dark forces" or something serious like that? WTF is that supposed to mean? I'd slap the sh*t out of him if he even looked at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 WTF is that supposed to mean? I'd slap the sh*t out of him if he even looked at me. What if he slapped you back? Would you get into a slap fight with him too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 I told you so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I told you so... Wait.... you're Cris Carter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 The 49'ers passing offense is better than ours? Interesting... everyones passing offense is better than ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 And the Niners spent the whole 2nd half of theNFC chmpionship watching their offense screw the pooch series after series, while their defense got worn down and eventually broke. You have to score points to win. That requires a competent passing attack. A run-oriented team hasn't won the Super Bowl since the Ravens in 2001. But if "identity" ges you a trophy clue the rest of us in about what the identity trophy is called. The Eagles, for example, have convinced their fan base there is a trophy for cap management, but doesn't appear to be a big ceremony for that either. In fact on several occasions Super Bowl champs violated the cap rules(the Steve Young Niners, the Broncos) and still hung onto their Lombardis. And we can all agree Cris Carter is a dick, cant' we? Ahh but the shoot out wih the Saints where the Niners passing attack went blow for blow with one of the best offenses in the NFL was just our imagination. For the record NO ONE passed well vs the Giants the last 6 games of last season (including the playoffs) because they rushed the QB like demons yep they even gave te great Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady Fits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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