SMC Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Did you know the great Bill Cowher twice coached a team that was 6-10. You know who's never done that? Rex Ryan. Why people think Bill Cowher is Vince Lombardi I'll never understand. He won't get 16 years to make it happen in NY. Jif & Pac, I wasn't advocating it, I was prognosticating it based on how Woody has acted in the past. You know he is very reactionary. BTW, the last 7 games under Rex are damning for his coaching resume. The Jets are 2-5 with 4 blowout losses, including 2 utter embarrassments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 No. Standard is not getting to the playoffs 2 seasons in a row................oh sh*t! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Jif & Pac, I wasn't advocating it, I was prognosticating it based on how Woody has acted in the past. You know he is very reactionary. BTW, the last 7 games under Rex are damning for his coaching resume. The Jets are 2-5 with 4 blowout losses, including 2 utter embarrassments. Chan Gaileys last 10 games are riddled with utter embarassments and I don't hear a peep about him being replaced. Rex is being victimized for being a bit of a loud mouth. I get it but don't think that means he gets fired. In Woodys eyes the Jets have never been more popular - albeit in a Lady Gaga kind of way. I think a complete meltdown coupled with sagging ticket sales would be the only recipie for Johnson to even consider a change. And even then he'd at the very least give him one more season with a healthy team to make it happen. I'm really starting to sour on Tanny though.. Sanchez and Holmes have made him look like a fool with those enormous contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Chan Gaileys last 10 games are riddled with utter embarassments and I don't hear a peep about him being replaced. Rex is being victimized for being a bit of a loud mouth. I get it but don't think that means he gets fired. In Woodys eyes the Jets have never been more popular - albeit in a Lady Gaga kind of way. I think a complete meltdown coupled with sagging ticket sales would be the only recipie for Johnson to even consider a change. And even then he'd at the very least give him one more season with a healthy team to make it happen. I'm really starting to sour on Tanny though.. Sanchez and Holmes have made him look like a fool with those enormous contracts. Buffalo is not really the franchise to look to in supporting an argument. That said, I believe in the Mangini-Browns scenario BG mentioned, with the Jets getting a new GM and Rex being on a 1 year tryout. Rex will be gone in either a total meltdown scenario or Woody begging some name to take over as GM/HC. Those are the only 2 scenarios I see Rex being ousted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I'm not so sure it even comes down to Tannenbaum. I think Terry Bradway and the entire scouting department has sucked. They need to blow up the whole deal. I like Rex and think he is a good coach. He is too player friendly, but he is a good coach. Though if they ever decide to blow it all up, I don't think Rex would survive . They will get a pass this season, but after that Woody will want to make headlines. Unfortunately, I don't think Woody has a clue what he is doing from a football standpoint either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 I brought up Cowher because some years ago we discussed this issue, and at that time we speculated that Mangini was Tanny's fall guy to take the hit which in turned saved Tanny's ass from the chopping block. I do believe though, that Tanny has got to take responsibility though and as another said the last 7 regular season games (or so) have been nightmares. I believe Cowher would never come here if Tanny is still in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangefunk Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Ok, lets reserve judgement until after the Jets are out of playoff contention. Its clear that if the Jets make the playoffs then Rex is safe. If Rex misses the playoffs again it will not be good. Mark Sanchez appears to not be the answer. If they do not make the playoffs, wholesale changes need to be made... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I'm not so sure it even comes down to Tannenbaum. I think Terry Bradway and the entire scouting department has sucked. They need to blow up the whole deal. I like Rex and think he is a good coach. He is too player friendly, but he is a good coach. Though if they ever decide to blow it all up, I don't think Rex would survive . They will get a pass this season, but after that Woody will want to make headlines. Unfortunately, I don't think Woody has a clue what he is doing from a football standpoint either. I think it's kind of considered an assumption at this point that if Tanny is sent packing, a new GM will be sending most (if not all) of the scouting department packing their sh*t up along with him, at most keeping some of them around through the draft given the timing. As far as Rex goes, I think he would at least survive the initial round of firings, giving the opportunity for the new GM to weigh in on the coaching situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 He should not. But it could happen. He has one thing going in his favor: Holmes will not be around to poison the atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Jif & Pac, I wasn't advocating it, I was prognosticating it based on how Woody has acted in the past. You know he is very reactionary. BTW, the last 7 games under Rex are damning for his coaching resume. The Jets are 2-5 with 4 blowout losses, including 2 utter embarrassments. really should be 1-6 Phin game was a gift from a carpenter just sayin rexey el fraudo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Did you know the great Bill Cowher twice coached a team that was 6-10. You know who's never done that? Rex Ryan. Not to mention took him like 12 years to win a Superbowl. 12!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I brought up Cowher because some years ago we discussed this issue, and at that time we speculated that Mangini was Tanny's fall guy to take the hit which in turned saved Tanny's ass from the chopping block. I do believe though, that Tanny has got to take responsibility though and as another said the last 7 regular season games (or so) have been nightmares. I believe Cowher would never come here if Tanny is still in place. Please look at Tanny for what Tanny is .... Hes a capologist and thats it. if he was a real GM Badway would not still be here holding his hand and leading him in a bad direction. Tanny is what he is and its NOT a GM hes good at what he does and always seems to make room financially when needed but lets face it the guy needs someone like a Parcells to pull the strings, you know the guy that hired him in the first place as an accountant. Having Badway/Rex make too many suggestions puts us where we are at now, in the toilet. Things might have been drastically different if Rex would have had the balls to send Shooty packing the first day he walked in the Jets facility. Who knows who might have been signed to lead our young QB if that was the case and who knows if we would be bragging on a few rings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 His teams have gotten worse every year. disagree. The 2010 team was better than 09. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 if Rex gets fired this year i'd be shocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 disagree. The 2010 team was better than 09. nope 2009 defense was way better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Losses alone won't lead to Rex getting fired. It'll take a complete collapse, a total loss of the locker room, stuff like that. Rex should get something of a pass for the injuries to Revis and Holmes, but Tannenbaum shouldn't. Tannenbaum is the reason the Jets have crappy depth at CB, and no depth (or starters?) at WR. Really, not much depth anywhere. He's been blessed with very good health on this Jets team, his practice of trading away picks and being the highest bidder in free agency is going to bite him in the ass this year. I said before that in think a new GM should hang onto Rex and spend a year evaluating the entire franchise. The cap room for a full makeover doesn't become available until 2014, anyway. They're somewhat stuck with Sanchez and Tebow for 2013, too. Reason enough to can Tannenbaum right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 nope 2009 defense was way better Who cares if the D was better or not, I care about wins and losses. the 2010 team was 2 wins better & closer to winning the champ game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Losses alone won't lead to Rex getting fired. It'll take a complete collapse, a total loss of the locker room, stuff like that. Rex should get something of a pass for the injuries to Revis and Holmes, but Tannenbaum shouldn't. Tannenbaum is the reason the Jets have crappy depth at CB, and no depth (or starters?) at WR. Really, not much depth anywhere. He's been blessed with very good health on this Jets team, his practice of trading away picks and being the highest bidder in free agency is going to bite him in the ass this year. I said before that in think a new GM should hang onto Rex and spend a year evaluating the entire franchise. The cap room for a full makeover doesn't become available until 2014, anyway. They're somewhat stuck with Sanchez and Tebow for 2013, too. Reason enough to can Tannenbaum right there. Rexey is a blooming idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 You people are thinking too hard about this. Woody will fire Rex only if he concludes that Rex is costing him money. Injuries or not--remember, Mangini was 8-3 when Favre tore his bicep--there will be no safe haven for Rex if the stadium is empty in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 You people are thinking too hard about this. Woody will fire Rex only if he concludes that Rex is costing him money. Injuries or not--remember, Mangini was 8-3 when Favre tore his bicep--there will be no safe haven for Rex if the stadium is empty in December. Ummm try November, maybe October, i heard there were 10k tickets avail for Texans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Ummm try November, maybe October, i heard there were 10k tickets avail for Texans I believe 10k is pretty much the norm these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I believe 10k is pretty much the norm these days. There's your sign lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Losses alone won't lead to Rex getting fired. It'll take a complete collapse, a total loss of the locker room, stuff like that. Rex should get something of a pass for the injuries to Revis and Holmes, but Tannenbaum shouldn't. Tannenbaum is the reason the Jets have crappy depth at CB, and no depth (or starters?) at WR. Really, not much depth anywhere. He's been blessed with very good health on this Jets team, his practice of trading away picks and being the highest bidder in free agency is going to bite him in the ass this year. I said before that in think a new GM should hang onto Rex and spend a year evaluating the entire franchise. The cap room for a full makeover doesn't become available until 2014, anyway. They're somewhat stuck with Sanchez and Tebow for 2013, too. Reason enough to can Tannenbaum right there. You'd have to wonder why Rex would sign on for that--a probation year under a new GM, with no autonomy, two bad QBs and a declining defense? He'd be wise to clean his hands of the whole thing and sneak off to coach Jacksonville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I think Rex gets a pass because it's not entirely his fault that there is a glaring lack of talent on this roster. Even the two AFCCG years I think this team was playing slightly above their talent level. This team hasn't drafted an impact player in a few years, and IMO is the primary reason they're struggling. If anybody deserves to be fired it's Tannenbaum for completely destroying whatever chemistry this team had in 2010 by getting rid of so many solid players like Ellis, Edwards and Cotchery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 You'd have to wonder why Rex would sign on for that--a probation year under a new GM, with no autonomy, two bad QBs and a declining defense? He'd be wise to clean his hands of the whole thing and sneak off to coach Jacksonville. He wouldn't have to sign on, he already has. He's under contract. If he quits, he's a quitter, but the Jets would still hold his rights. I think under that scenario, he'd coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 People who want to fire Rex after one losing season are the reason why this fan base doesn't progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 People who want to fire Rex after one losing season are the reason why this fan base doesn't progress. The Jets have been firing people for 40 years since Joe Willy's deal with the devil. Firing people doesn't actually make the team better. See Sparano, Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 People who want to fire Rex after one losing season are the reason why this fan base doesn't progress. Rex is an idiot Oh I wont IR revis, cause i may get to activate him for the SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Had a down year and are currently in first place of the division. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFtoLong Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 The Jets have been firing people for 40 years since Joe Willy's deal with the devil. Firing people doesn't actually make the team better. See Sparano, Tony. The problem is not the firing of people over the 40 Years, it's the people they have hired. Who have they fired that they should not have? For the record, I thiught Mangini deserved another year, but was OK with firing him. If a team believes its HC is not the right guy, why wait around? I think Rex is a terrible HC. Good defensive guy, not great, good, terrible HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knix Tix Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I would definitely keep Rex, but Tanny needs to go for paying no real attention to the o-line and that revolving door receiving corps. It started when he cut Alan Faneca after drafting Vlad Ducasse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Neither of his statements were false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Bad luck? He didn't bench him did he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Neither of his statements were false. No less hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 No less hilarious. What's hilarious about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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