flgreen Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Greg Salas Surprises Atop the WR Lists Posted 2 hours ago Randy LangeEditor-in-Chief, newyorkjets.com@rlangejets Blog: Randy's Radar Jets WR Has Put Up Big Yards/Catch, YAC Numbers in Contributing to Jets' Offense Updated 12:30 p.m ET It's true that the Jets wide receiving corps has a few "knicks and knacks" that could limit or sideline players likeEric Decker (hamstring) and David Nelson (ankle) for Sunday's game at San Diego. It's also true that the wideouts have a secret weapon to attack the Chargers secondary, a player who in fact leads all NFL wide receivers after one quarter of the season in both yards/catch and YAC average. Greg Salas. "It is a small sample size. It's hard to do that for an extended period of time," Salas told me after Thursday's practice at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center. "But I'm just doing my best and, whenever my number's called, I try and make as big a play as I can." So far, that plan is working to perfection. Salas has gotten on the field for a shade over 100 offensive plays in the first four games, has been targeted 12 times by Geno Smith, and has caught five passes. But what he's done with those five grabs. In the last two games, the former Hawaii 100-catch receiver has had a 51-yard catch-and-run against the Bears and 32- and 28-yard grab-and-go's vs. the Lions. The 51-yarder — 32 yards of which came after the catch — is our longest pass play in the last 18 games. And his 25.6 yards/catch and his unofficial yards-after-catch average of 16.6 both are the top figures after four weeks of the NFL season among all wide receivers. The catch to those totals is that the lists include all receivers with at least five receptions. Receiving qualifiers generally need two catches per game so Salas' name isn't yet appearing at the top of many pass-catching lists. But that doesn't mean he hasn't contributed. As coordinator Marty Mornhinweg said Thursday: “Greg Salas has helped us out. He’s a very dependable guy.” That's big right now because of the banged-up status of the unit. Head coach Rex Ryan said Friday that both Decker and Nelson will make the trip to San Diego. Decker is listed as questionable and the coach said a decision on him playing will be "game-time." Nelson, who sat out practice the previous two days, was limited today and is also questionable. "This one's crazy," Ryan said. "I was shocked he was able to practice today but he did." Regardless of who's up or down, Salas is ready to roll. "David's always involved, always helping out. Same thing with Deck," Salas said. "Even though they might not be practicing fully, they're always helpful. I'm taking the reps right now, trying the best I can to make sure there's not a dropoff." That's especially important because of the various media storylines involving Smith in the early going. Count Salas among the people inside the building who are fully supportive of their quarterback and the state of the offense. "I think he's been playing good, just a couple of things here and there, but it's nothing that we can't fix and get better at," he said. "We're only a quarter of the way through the season. There's still a lot of football to be played. I'm looking for him and everybody else in the offense to keep on improving and get this thing on track. I feel like there's a lot of good football that's going to be played by Geno Smith this year." And while we can expect Salas' numbers to come down when his sample size grows a little larger, he's not about to stop maximizing his contributions to the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 definitely a top-20 Caucasian wide receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 definitely a top-20 Caucasian wide receiver. Self hating Jew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Self hating Jew. You can't step to this, Goy Rogers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 definitely a top-20 Caucasian wide receiver. Isn't he Hispanic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Isn't he Hispanic? We count those as ours, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 He's certainly looked good this year when he's gotten the ball in his hands, but there's definitely work to be done there. He's definitely had a few pretty awful drops this season too, which is only that much more troublesome when you're seeing the ball as little as he has. Definitely think there's a lot of potential there and it's certainly stuff that can be cleaned up, but I wouldn't exactly count on him being able to step up as a starter at this point based on 5 catches, even if he actually had a real QB throwing him the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I am just glad a JET WR is top of a list. Any list. #LowExpectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 He looks the part, I'd say give more opportunities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 We count those as ours, yes? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 We count those as ours, yes? Doesn't matter. They count themselves as yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I'd like to see more Salas and less Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 You can't divorce yourself from anything to do with Pac and yet lay claim to Salas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Doesn't matter. They count themselves as yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Jet Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Greg Salas, all time leading receiver for Hawaii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 I don't want to take the spotlight from the kid as I think he is decent wr but cmon he had 5 catches where one of them the guy missed the tackle badly We need some more wr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Riding Greg Salas to a chip in fantasy this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Greg Salas, all time leading receiver for Hawaii Timmy Chang was a stud too... I hear he is washing cars now for food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 No. **** no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Isn't he Hispanic? With a name like that I thought he was Greek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Jet Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Timmy Chang was a stud too... I hear he is washing cars now for food. well thats not a good sign lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 He's certainly looked good this year when he's gotten the ball in his hands, but there's definitely work to be done there. He's definitely had a few pretty awful drops this season too, which is only that much more troublesome when you're seeing the ball as little as he has. Definitely think there's a lot of potential there and it's certainly stuff that can be cleaned up, but I wouldn't exactly count on him being able to step up as a starter at this point based on 5 catches, even if he actually had a real QB throwing him the ball. Yes, definitely. Certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Yes, definitely. Certainly. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Salad - the big play threat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Salad - the big play threat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 I remember when Randy Lange was my favorite beat reporter. I don't think he would've written a fluff piece about a guy who's caught five passes this season before he was employed by the team. That said, I would like to see more Salas, less Nelson. Nelson looks apathetic on the field, Salas looks like he wants it. Wouldn't bother me even a little bit if he loses his job to this week's ankle injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 A Spanish and Portuguese surname, Salas comes from an Old German term ‘sal’ which meant a building. Spelling variations for Salas are Sales and Sala. In England the Salas surname is found in the city of London, and the counties of Kent, Norfolk, Yorkshire, Rutland, Lancashire and Berkshire. From Spain many Salas families resettled in Nicaragua, Puerto Rico, Peru, Mexico, Chile and Ecuador. Within the United States the Salas families originated in Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, California, Arizona and Florida. Famous: Angel Salas (writer from Bolivia), Stevie Salas (musician), Floyd F. Salas (poet and novelist), Marcelo Salas (professional footballer from Chile), Hilden Salas (footballer from Peru), Joseph Salas (professional boxer), Marino Salas (professional baseball player), and Margarita Salas (biochemist in Spain). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 The fact that the Pats lose an undisclosed draft pick next year, that they gave up for him makes it even more imperative that he succeeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 You don't win friends with salad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 more fun with stats TE amaro > ebron http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/te Ivory is a top 10 RB http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/rb Brady is the 33rd ranked QB, Geno 34th Geno is the lowest ranked rushing QB. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb jets overall defense. is 17 cincy is #1. will brady survive ? http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Amaro > Gronkowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 more fun with stats Geno is the lowest ranked rushing QB. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb Love these stat sites. Geno's tied for third with 91 yards rushing, one TD and one fumble, and he's the worst running QB in the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Love these stat sites. Geno's tied for third with 91 yards rushing, one TD and one fumble, and he's the worst running QB in the league? are ranked according to DYAR, or Defense-adjusted Yards Above Replacement. This gives the value of the performance on plays where this RB carried/caught the ball compared to replacement level, adjusted for situation and opponent and then translated into yardage. DYAR (and its cousin, YAR, which isn't adjusted based on opponent) is further explained here. THE ULTRA-SHORT VERSION: DVOA measures a team's efficiency by comparing success on every single play to a league average based on situation and opponent. THE SHORT VERSION: DVOA is a method of evaluating teams, units, or players. It takes every single play during the NFL season and compares each one to a league-average baseline based on situation. DVOA measures not just yardage, but yardage towards a first down: Five yards on third-and-4 are worth more than five yards on first-and-10 and much more than five yards on third-and-12. Red zone plays are worth more than other plays. Performance is also adjusted for the quality of the opponent. DVOA is a percentage, so a team with a DVOA of 10.0% is 10 percent better than the average team, and a quarterback with a DVOA of -20.0% is 20 percent worse than the average quarterback. Because DVOA measures scoring, defenses are better when they are negative. For more detail, read below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Okay, it's somebody's formula as to how valuable those runs are. To me, he seems to do okay when he runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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