Jetsfanri Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Because candidly, we have both... I am blown away at how negative the fan base is on every move we make. The bottom line is we have no idea who will have success or who will fail. Joe Torre was laughed at when hired by the Yankees...no one predicted his success. So is this negative attitude of the fans a byproduct of the lack of championships or is it being fed by media types who get off on criticizing everything the team does? I find it kind of disturbing, local sports media is becoming Fox News vs MSNBC...you are either pro or con on every issue and there is no middle ground. More importantly, the media seems to have become the story, which is what journalism 101 says shouldn't happen. I mean, if Marrone is hired, how does he view Manish Mehta from day one...does he look at him and say "You've. Got. To. Be. Kidding"? Maybe I'm too old school, but not a good situation imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfanri Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 Btw, first post, transplant from JI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Btw, first post, transplant from JI. Hmm. Some folks may think we are the same person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Unfortunately most people don't / won't think for themselves so they have their opinions formed by the media. What we are seeing with the whole "Marrone mania" is fascinating: - He opts out of his contract and his agent "leaks" the Jet rumor to Schefter to stir interest - From that point on there has been a split in the NY media on whether they like or hate him. On the "like" side is the Post, Cimini/ESPN, Schein and on the "hate" side is the Daily News, WFAN It's just shameful how the media makes themselves the story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Unfortunately most people don't / won't think for themselves so they have their opinions formed by the media. What we are seeing with the whole "Marrone mania" is fascinating: - He opts out of his contract and his agent "leaks" the Jet rumor to Schefter to stir interest - From that point on there has been a split in the NY media on whether they like or hate him. On the "like" side is the Post, Cimini/ESPN, Schein and on the "hate" side is the Daily News, WFAN It's just shameful how the media makes themselves the story Great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementi49 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 And this split thinking before anything happens on the field leads to people saying I told you so and people flying planes after 1 year of a GMs tenure and its and endless 3-5 year cycle that will never change with our jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Unfortunately most people don't / won't think for themselves so they have their opinions formed by the media. What we are seeing with the whole "Marrone mania" is fascinating: - He opts out of his contract and his agent "leaks" the Jet rumor to Schefter to stir interest - From that point on there has been a split in the NY media on whether they like or hate him. On the "like" side is the Post, Cimini/ESPN, Schein and on the "hate" side is the Daily News, WFAN It's just shameful how the media makes themselves the story I find it fascinating. The split is clearly there. And now ex players are joining the fray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 And this split thinking before anything happens on the field leads to people saying I told you so and people flying planes after 1 year of a GMs tenure and its and endless 3-5 year cycle that will never change with our jets. That's why I think the best thing for the organization is to move away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I think the fan base is easily manipulated by the media. They read and listen to guys like Mehta and Francessa who are just playing a role and they buy into it. I find people that spend more time on message boards are much less likely to buy into the noise. I get all my news and updates from here and find it the best resource for really understanding what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 The guy is not BB, Parcels, Walsh, Reid or anyone else that will automatically come with a "pass". Fans and media are going to have divergent opinions on every candidate. The lack of success of the jets recently leads them open for a very critcal eye. Are fans supposed to feel great about every candidate that the jets interview? I can see why some posters would want all the fans to get behind a guy when they were hired, but until they are the coach/GM of the team, fans should look at them with a critical eye as they have not yet done anything to dispel the concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I think the fan base is easily manipulated by the media. They read and listen to guys like Mehta and Francessa who are just playing a role and they buy into it. I find people that spend more time on message boards are much less likely to buy into the noise. I get all my news and updates from here and find it the best resource for really understanding what's going on. If your easily manipulated by the media your just as easily manipulated by the opinions of random posters here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Dont you think there's a reason to be negative after the way the Jets performed after the last 4 years? its up to the Jets (specifically Woody Johnson) to make things right now. how positive does that make you feel? Im just going to wait and see and make my own opinion based on what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Dont you think there's a reason to be negative after the way the Jets performed after the last 4 years? its up to the Jets (specifically Woody Johnson) to make things right now. how positive does that make you feel? Im just going to wait and see and make my own opinion based on what happens. agree, u can be negative but in way that still shows you Bleed Green. Like a child that dissapoints you, you show anger etc, but still in their corner forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Maxman Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Unfortunately most people don't / won't think for themselves so they have their opinions formed by the media. What we are seeing with the whole "Marrone mania" is fascinating: - He opts out of his contract and his agent "leaks" the Jet rumor to Schefter to stir interest - From that point on there has been a split in the NY media on whether they like or hate him. On the "like" side is the Post, Cimini/ESPN, Schein and on the "hate" side is the Daily News, WFAN It's just shameful how the media makes themselves the story Kay from YES is friends with Marrone. Funny how wfan hates him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Anyone with a Syracuse background will cause a media frenzy. Why do you think Melo for the most part has been treated with kid gloves by he NY media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Unfortunately most people don't / won't think for themselves so they have their opinions formed by the media. What we are seeing with the whole "Marrone mania" is fascinating: - He opts out of his contract and his agent "leaks" the Jet rumor to Schefter to stir interest - From that point on there has been a split in the NY media on whether they like or hate him. On the "like" side is the Post, Cimini/ESPN, Schein and on the "hate" side is the Daily News, WFAN It's just shameful how the media makes themselves the story Speaking of media. I would appeal to Max to let KRL be on retainer at Jets camp this year. He always did a fantastic job on the JI board for years. All would wait anxiously to hear his take on camp and player evaluations. Can you throw him a press pass? You won't regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Can you throw him a press pass? You won't regret it. Sore subject around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 The guy is not BB, Parcels, Walsh, Reid or anyone else that will automatically come with a "pass". Fans and media are going to have divergent opinions on every candidate. The lack of success of the jets recently leads them open for a very critcal eye. Are fans supposed to feel great about every candidate that the jets interview? I can see why some posters would want all the fans to get behind a guy when they were hired, but until they are the coach/GM of the team, fans should look at them with a critical eye as they have not yet done anything to dispel the concerns.In fairness there was a time when Bellicheat, Parcells, Walsh,Lombardi or any great coach you coould name(Andy Freaking Reid, really?) was a nobody. Firing Ryan was a a nobrainer. We need to keep an open mind about what happens from here. I really don;t understand why anyone cares what douchebags like Lupica and Mehta think. Really to a point that fact that Mehta dislikes Marrone is almost a selling point, and based on some talk radio the last few days appears some people in the media think Mehta has gone way too far.A line has been crossed, and the Jets may be well within their rights to while not banning him limiting his access. It is fair to acknowledge the owner so far has shown himself to be a fool. But doesn't mean he won't get things right this time. And Marrone or who ever and the new GM deserves to be judged on their own merits and on what they do from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 people are expecting the worse from this organization until proven otherwise- the media makes hits by being controversial so that is always going to continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfanri Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 Dont you think there's a reason to be negative after the way the Jets performed after the last 4 years? its up to the Jets (specifically Woody Johnson) to make things right now. how positive does that make you feel? Im just going to wait and see and make my own opinion based on what happens. Compare how the Jets are treated to other teams...say the Chiefs, or the Chargers, or the Bengals. All teams that have either never won a Super Bowl or won one about th same time the Jets did. The negative vibe surrounding the Jets is so much worse than these teams, it has to start somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 neither.. sh*tty team comes first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Anyone with a Syracuse background will cause a media frenzy. Why do you think Melo for the most part has been treated with kid gloves by he NY media? bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Compare how the Jets are treated to other teams...say the Chiefs, or the Chargers, or the Bengals. All teams that have either never won a Super Bowl or won one about th same time the Jets did. The negative vibe surrounding the Jets is so much worse than these teams, it has to start somewhere. It was way way way worse in 1995-1996. The Jets were constantly the common joke on sports center every week. That all changed in 1997. The Woody owned Jets are more interested in back page headlines than winning a super bowl. When you constantly try and draw attention to yourself through the press and you're a bad football team these things happen. I don't see any of those teams craving the back page headlines like the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De-Jet-Erate/Duane Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 It was way way way worse in 1995-1996. The Jets were constantly the common joke on sports center every week. That all changed in 1997. The Woody owned Jets are more interested in back page headlines than winning a super bowl. When you constantly try and draw attention to yourself through the press and you're a bad football team these things happen. I don't see any of those teams craving the back page headlines like the Jets. Was it front page or back page news with that picture of you in Miami?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Because candidly, we have both... I am blown away at how negative the fan base is on every move we make. The bottom line is we have no idea who will have success or who will fail. Joe Torre was laughed at when hired by the Yankees...no one predicted his success. So is this negative attitude of the fans a byproduct of the lack of championships or is it being fed by media types who get off on criticizing everything the team does? I find it kind of disturbing, local sports media is becoming Fox News vs MSNBC...you are either pro or con on every issue and there is no middle ground. More importantly, the media seems to have become the story, which is what journalism 101 says shouldn't happen. I mean, if Marrone is hired, how does he view Manish Mehta from day one...does he look at him and say "You've. Got. To. Be. Kidding"? Maybe I'm too old school, but not a good situation imho. I dont think anyone here is expecting Superbowl everyyear. But in the NFL were the vast majority of teams are competitive - Thats all I'm asking for with the annual hope of winning the Superbowl. Going into the season with ZERO hope of playoffs/Superbowl blows. This team was painful to watch for most of the year. We got blown out. Our offense couldn't move the ball 10 yards in the Buffalo/SD game. By the end of the season even Ray Ray was upset with play. Give me a bunch of games to watch like the Patriots games this year. Sure we lost by 2 and 1 points but they were exciting games to watch for anyone and we were in it until the end. Games like that being in some sort of a race for a playoff spot yearly is all you can ask for as a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Because candidly, we have both... I am blown away at how negative the fan base is on every move we make. The bottom line is we have no idea who will have success or who will fail. Joe Torre was laughed at when hired by the Yankees...no one predicted his success. So is this negative attitude of the fans a byproduct of the lack of championships or is it being fed by media types who get off on criticizing everything the team does? I find it kind of disturbing, local sports media is becoming Fox News vs MSNBC...you are either pro or con on every issue and there is no middle ground. More importantly, the media seems to have become the story, which is what journalism 101 says shouldn't happen. I mean, if Marrone is hired, how does he view Manish Mehta from day one...does he look at him and say "You've. Got. To. Be. Kidding"? Maybe I'm too old school, but not a good situation imho. Jets deserve the cynicsm. Every move is shouted down because every major football decision made by woodys jets have been a fail. Hmm. Some folks may think we are the same person. First thing i thought. This 3 post guy must be the same as that 25 post guy Welcome guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Was it front page or back page news with that picture of you in Miami?? Lol I forgot all about that pic. That was the game Revis blew his knee out two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 There is a real simple solution to end the negativity. Win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaSightPF Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Because candidly, we have both... I am blown away at how negative the fan base is on every move we make. The bottom line is we have no idea who will have success or who will fail. Joe Torre was laughed at when hired by the Yankees...no one predicted his success. So is this negative attitude of the fans a byproduct of the lack of championships or is it being fed by media types who get off on criticizing everything the team does? I find it kind of disturbing, local sports media is becoming Fox News vs MSNBC...you are either pro or con on every issue and there is no middle ground. More importantly, the media seems to have become the story, which is what journalism 101 says shouldn't happen. I mean, if Marrone is hired, how does he view Manish Mehta from day one...does he look at him and say "You've. Got. To. Be. Kidding"? Maybe I'm too old school, but not a good situation imho. I've been sooooo damn negative the last few months. In 30 years I've never been this type of fan, but I really had faith in Idzik and after that mid-season pressed I realized we were starting all over again, for the 2nd time in 2 years, and being competitive was another 3 years off... And I went off the deep end. I really wanted Bowles and DeCosta and now it looks like Marone and that Houston douche (Casserly's piss boy) But I'm trying to hit the reset button and just think positive moving forward. Support whom ever we end up with and get back to enjoying football. This is like free therapy, thank you LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I've been sooooo damn negative the last few months. In 30 years I've never been this type of fan, but I really had faith in Idzik and after that mid-season pressed I realized we were starting all over again, for the 2nd time in 2 years, and being competitive was another 3 years off... And I went off the deep end. I really wanted Bowles and DeCosta and now it looks like Marone and that Houston douche (Casserly's piss boy) But I'm trying to hit the reset button and just think positive moving forward. Support whom ever we end up with and get back to enjoying football. This is like free therapy, thank you LOL Been through this cycle so many times its funny to me now. When/if jets ever win the big one it will be all upside. I expect trainwreck every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaSightPF Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Been through this cycle so many times its funny to me now. When/if jets ever win the big one it will be all upside. I expect trainwreck every year. I'm gunna ball like a 7 year old girl if they ever win it all. I am actually dreading the 2 weeks between the AFCCG and the SB, if we ever get that far. But with Woody as the owner I have nothing to worry about. DAMN! there I go again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Btw, first post, transplant from JI. lousy 2nd post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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