LAD_Brooklyn Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Victor Beasley 6'3" Height 32 1/2" Arm Length 246LBS. Weight 9 3/8" 4.53 - 40 Time 35 reps - Bench Reps 41 inch - Vert 130 inch - Board Jump 6.91 sec - 3 Cones 4.15 sec - 20 yard shuttle Pre Combine Projection • ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr.: No. 21 to Cincinnati • ESPN's Todd McShay: No. 21 to Cincinnati • CBSSports.com's Dane Brugler: No. 8 to Atlanta • CBSSports.com's Rob Rang: No. 24 to Arizona • CBSSports.com's Pat Kirwan: No. 13 to New Orleans • NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah: No. 29 to Indianapolis • NFL.com's Lance Zierlein: No. 22 to Pittsburgh • NFL.com's Charles Davis: No. 8 to Atlanta • NFL.com's Bucky Brooks: No. 8 to Atlanta • Bleacher Report's Matt Miller: No. 33 to Tennessee • Sports Illustrated's Chris Burke: No. 16 to Houston The Past 3 years he's racked up 8, 13 and 12 sacks. No one has more in that span. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Dante. Fowler. Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Oh, well, if he HAS to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Based on those picks, it doesn't look like he's worthy of the slot the Jets pick in. They could trade back and get him, but have to find a willing dance partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Based on those picks, it doesn't look like he's worthy of the slot the Jets pick in. They could trade back and get him, but have to find a willing dance partner. I'm pretty sure all these guys will change their projection. I'm not a fan of combine warriors but Beasley main concern was size. He came to the combine and answered all those question weighing 246 and blowing away the competition in the bench press. The analysis at NFL.com had him going to the Falcons at 8. There's no reason why he can't be the number two defensive prospect behind Leonard Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Based on those picks, it doesn't look like he's worthy of the slot the Jets pick in. They could trade back and get him, but have to find a willing dance partner. Or he could be one of those Bruce Irvin types that front offices covet, but none of the talking derps in the media have a clue about. I wouldn't put too much stock in the pre-draft evaluations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Or he could be one of those Bruce Irvin types that front offices covet, but none of the talking derps in the media have a clue about. I wouldn't put too much stock in the pre-draft evaluations. Or he could be one of those Bruce Irvin types that front offices covet, but none of the talking derps in the media have a clue about. I wouldn't put too much stock in the pre-draft evaluations. Von Miller pre-draft evaluation was the same. Was considered top 20 and then after the combine he "sky rocket" to a top 5 pick. Speaking of Von Miller and Victor Beasley Victor Beasley 6'3" Height 32 1/2" Arm Length 246LBS. Weight 9 3/8" Hands 4.53 - 40 Time 35 reps - Bench Reps 41 inch - Vert 130 inch - Board Jump 6.91 sec - 3 Cones 4.15 sec - 20 yard shuttle Von Miller 6'3" Height 33 1/2" Arm Length 246LBS. Weight 9 1/4" Hands 4.53 - 40 Time 21 reps - Bench Reps 37 inch - Vert 126 - Board Jump 6.70 - 3 cones 4.06 - 20 yard shuttle Not saying he's going to be Miller. But the measurement are very intriguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I think 6 might be too high for Beasley. At least at the moment that's how it seems. I wouldn't have a problem with trading back, getting multiple picks and picking Beasley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Von Miller was considered a top 5 pick before his last year in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 If we pass up Cooper, White or God forbid, Mariota for this guy I will throw my dog through my television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC36 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 If we pass up Cooper, White or God forbid, Mariota for this guy I will throw my dog through my television. Challenge accepted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 I think 6 might be too high for Beasley. At least at the moment that's how it seems. I wouldn't have a problem with trading back, getting multiple picks and picking Beasley. Most have him going to the Falcons as their 4-3 LEO position. So if you want him you have to roll the dice @ 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I don't give a **** who we pick as long as the player is a contributor unlike the Robertsons, the Gholstons, the Wilsons, the Pryors, the Millners of the world. For the record, I want the team to draft Kevin White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 i've really had enough of the defensive first round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 The bottom line is that WHOEVER the pick is, that player MUST MATERIALLY CONTRIBUTE or be an EFFECTIVE 16 game starter to be validated by Jets fans. We have had too many recent draf picks (sans Shelly) that haven't contributed to the degree a 1st round pick should in the eyes of fans. Unless it's a QB that falls into our laps @ #6, the player picked HAS TO BE an immediate contributor. If ot QB, then White, Peat, or Ray. I love the crapshoot that is the NFL Draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Von Miller was considered a top 5 pick before his last year in college. This. Beasley is no Von Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 We have a defensive coach. Makes sense. Although it is kind of a reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 No more friggin defensive first rounders until we have a semblance of balance between offense and defense. If we pass on White and Cooper for a boom/bust pick like edge rusher I will be pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 If there's any one guy that has to be the pick it would be Amari Cooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 That is exactly what I meant, that's exactly why the Combine is cancer to football. I really hope Bowles/Macc don't put any stock into these combine numbers or rank their board based on the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 something doesn't add up. the knocks on him have been not strong enough and not big enough. He has issues against the run. Sometimes oversized tackles man handle him. But he played at 222lbs, and now he's 240+???? and he benched 35 reps?? I don't get it. Those are like Joey Porter numbers. If you bench 35 reps you should be able to toss any offensive linemen around. he looks like a text book combine freak. Either way, at #6 at least one of these guys will be there: Ray, Fowler, Kevin White or Mariota. No way we take him over any of them. For the record I want a draft and trade with Mariota to land us Foles. Huh? The knock on him isn't that he's weak against the run or about strength in setting the edge. The only question was the conclusion that he wouldn't be able to do what he does in college in the NFL because of his size. In fact most state he plays bigger than his size. Also he's not a one hit wonder like Ray or Fowler as he's a guy who finish 3rd in the nation last year in sacks. The only thing he had to prove was can he maintain the same speed with added weight and he's done so. Last year at the deadline for underclassman to declare only Mariota was consider a 1st round prospects like Beasley out of the guys you mentioned. Like every pre-combine mock, it's pretty much meaningless until the process plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 That is exactly what I meant, that's exactly why the Combine is cancer to football. I really hope Bowles/Macc don't put any stock into these combine numbers or rank their board based on the combine. Why isn't Beasley consider one of the best pass rushers base on his play? He's had 3 consecutive productive seasons. Was given a first round grade during last years evolution process in which none of his peers can say. It's not like we're discussing a player who had horrible production in college and went off at the combine and is all of a sudden considered a 1st rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Looks fantastic at Indi, but we drafted the Worlds greatest workout Warrior in V.G. I'm not saying he's V.G, i'am saying the Jets will be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Why isn't Beasley consider one of the best pass rushers base on his play? He's had 3 consecutive productive seasons. Was given a first round grade during last years evolution process in which none of his peers can say. It's not like we're discussing a player who had horrible production in college and went off at the combine and is all of a sudden considered a 1st rounder. That's not what I'm saying. He will be moved up the draft boards now, I guarantee you that. And it's not based on his play, it's based on him jumping high or doing bench reps. It's just moronic. Other guys will drop in the draft because of their slow 40 times or whatever. Even though their tape clearly shows you that they are more skilled than the workout warrios that moved up the draft boards. If Beasley was your guy going into the combine, his performance at the combine should not have moved him up or down your draft board even one spot. I hate when teams or whoever adjusts their draft board based on combine performances. It doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Challenge accepted 80 lb pitbull makes the degree of difficulty equal to the sentiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 If we pass up Cooper, White or God forbid, Mariota for this guy I will throw my dog through my television. That has to be a YouTube video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I absolutely hate it when players move up in the draft due to the stupid combine. Some guys score fast but don't play fast because they just don't have the instincts .... Some guy Score strong but don't p[lay strong because they lack technique . Keep in mind losing split seconds due to lack of instinct usually Takes a ton off the quickness factor. There really is no way to judge mental and physical quickness other than watching these guys play . Sometimes I wonder if you ask the top scouts in the game what they feel about the combine what the answer would be or how it may change or not change their perspective Vernon Gholston was a terrible football player and I felt the same way watching him in college ...I was praying the Jets would stay away .... How many players have better combine scores than him ? Im not trying to knock your assessment of Beasley but you did point to his Combine numbers going to see if I can find some video of him actually playing the game and how quick he reacts to situational football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Dante. Fowler. Jr. Im not really sold on him. What do you see that I should be looking for? I like Beasley when he rushes the passer. You know how some people talk about that "1st step"? You can't miss it with this guy. By the time the rest of the Dline is on their 2nd to 3rd step up the field, Beasley is more than halfway to the QB. The problem that I have with Beasley is that this is all I've seen. I haven't seen any coverage skills or run support. Seems like a 3rd down OLB, but a potentially great one at that. Not sure if you can invest a #6 pick into something like that, at the same time im not sure if you can pass on the best 1st step in college football and is a terror coming off the edge. I can see why people would consider Beasley at #6 As for Dante, I really dont know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 This is a pretty strong Draft for OLB and WR. Maccagnan and Bowles have a lot of holes to fill and few picks. If they can do the trade down and grab an additional 2nd or 3rd, I'd have no problem with that. If Marriota is there at #6 I don't see how you can let him slip by without trading the pick or drafting him outright. We NEED to get the QB position fixed. Extending Mo and Sheldon doesn't do much for us if we can't get a Top 10 QB. We've been waiting 46 FREAKING Years for a SB. The QB position is vital to changing that. Trade the pick for Foles or take Marriota if he's there. Geno will never be the answer. If MacC or Bowles thinks Petty or Hundley is the answer.... then pick the WR or OLB but you better be damn sure Marriota is NOT the answer if you let him past #6 or do nothing with that pick on the trade front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Victor Beasley 6'3" Height 32 1/2" Arm Length 246LBS. Weight 9 3/8" 4.53 - 40 Time 35 reps - Bench Reps 41 inch - Vert 130 inch - Board Jump 6.91 sec - 3 Cones 4.15 sec - 20 yard shuttle Pre Combine Projection • ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr.: No. 21 to Cincinnati • ESPN's Todd McShay: No. 21 to Cincinnati • CBSSports.com's Dane Brugler: No. 8 to Atlanta • CBSSports.com's Rob Rang: No. 24 to Arizona • CBSSports.com's Pat Kirwan: No. 13 to New Orleans • NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah: No. 29 to Indianapolis • NFL.com's Lance Zierlein: No. 22 to Pittsburgh • NFL.com's Charles Davis: No. 8 to Atlanta • NFL.com's Bucky Brooks: No. 8 to Atlanta • Bleacher Report's Matt Miller: No. 33 to Tennessee • Sports Illustrated's Chris Burke: No. 16 to Houston The Past 3 years he's racked up 8, 13 and 12 sacks. No one has more in that span. Well Beasley sure as hell killed it at the combine. He's going to be a good player but I doubt he'll be in the top ten selected. A trade down several spots to pick up an extra 2nd rounderm or more would be fine by me if Mccags can find a willing partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 i've really had enough of the defensive first round picks. Yeah if Cooper, White or Scherff weren't potentially there'd say fine but how many years in a row do we have to go defense? This isn't 2012 when scrubs like Warmack or Eifert were the only offensive options available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I absolutely hate it when players move up in the draft due to the stupid combine. Some guys score fast but don't play fast because they just don't have the instincts .... Some guy Score strong but don't p[lay strong because they lack technique . Keep in mind losing split seconds due to lack of instinct usually Takes a ton off the quickness factor. There really is no way to judge mental and physical quickness other than watching these guys play . Sometimes I wonder if you ask the top scouts in the game what they feel about the combine what the answer would be or how it may change or not change their perspective Vernon Gholston was a terrible football player and I felt the same way watching him in college ...I was praying the Jets would stay away .... How many players have better combine scores than him ? Im not trying to knock your assessment of Beasley but you did point to his Combine numbers going to see if I can find some video of him actually playing the game and how quick he reacts to situational football Beasley is no Gholdston. Have you seen him play? Good pick for a team picking around slot #20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Beasley is no Gholdston. Have you seen him play? Good pick for a team picking around slot #20. If you read my post you will see Im not comparing Beasley to Gholston at all just the value of a decision made via the Combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Beasley is no Gholdston. Have you seen him play? Good pick for a team picking around slot #20. Just watched some video of him and also watched Mayock's assessment of him and I agree with Mayock who showed he has some issue when engaged with bigger stronger tackles. Watching film of him beating inferior lineman means nothing. They say hes beefed up to 246 but its not easy to put on 26 pounds of muscle in such a short period unless your roiding out or he just put on fat . Either way no way this kid is the number 6 pick in the draft nor should he be. Probably late first early second IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Drafting based solely on college production is no guarantee of success. Hate the combine all you want, but studs with college production bust all the time. For instance, Jordan White was one of the all-time collegiate receiving leaders. So was Greg Salas. Not exactly NFL studs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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