jeaniec Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Robert Kraft's decision not to appeal the New England Patriots' punishment for Deflategate left Tom Brady to fight the harsh discipline on his own. http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/bill-belichick-tom-brady-deflategate-story-new-england-patriots-052215?adbsc=social_20150522_46313896&adbid=907294059308735&adbpl=fb&adbpr=749212008450275 According to the Boston Herald's Ron Borges, Brady has been on his own throughout the prolonged incident. Borges was a recent guest on CSNNE's "Sports Tonight" and was asked by host Michael Felger if there was a chance Kraft and head coach Bill Belichick thought Brady wasn't being transparent about his role in Deflategate. Borges responded with some pretty eye-opening comments. "Belichick never believed (Brady's) story, from what I was told," Borges said, via CSNNE.com. "(Belichick) didn't tell it to me, but people who know him (told me). "Because they all know. Why do you think all those retired quarterbacks, the Troy Aikmans of the world -- Troy Aikman is about as nice a guy as I've ever met in football -- nobody's backed (Brady). Nobody, not a single guy. Why do you think that is? Because they hate Brady? No. Because they're not stupid. They know nothing's done with those balls that the quarterback doesn't want done." Actually, a number of QBs did back Brady -- including a couple of Hall of Famers. Here's Belichick's statement from January in response to the initial Deflategate reports: "I think we all know that quarterbacks, kickers, specialists have certain preferences on footballs. They know a lot more about it than I do. They're a lot more sensitive to it than I am. I hear them comment on it from time to time, but I can tell you and they will tell you that there is never any sympathy whatsoever from me on that subject. Zero. "Tom's personal preferences on his footballs are something he can talk about in much better detail and information than I could possibly provide." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Maybe if the article wasnt written in Boston this may hold a shred of believability. But anyone whose watched a football life with Bill Belichick knows that there's nothing related to gameplan that brady and bill don't talk about completely. I'm sure the sources close to Bill who commented anonymously were totally objective and had zero interest in protecting whatever image he has left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Distancing. They are throwing the golden boy under the bus to save the rest of their asses, and reputations. Good strategy, given that there's been a pretty strong reaction test on how teflon Brady's legacy is in light of all this. By all accounts, most of the media has basically said he's still great and doesn't need to cheat, so he's a perfect sacrificial lamb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Belichick trying to preserve his legacy. The problem with that is he never won anything without the guy who was suspended for cheating. His legacy is forever tied to Brady's. Put an asterisk next to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Of course he didn't. He's a schmuck, but he's not an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Of course he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 only 4 people did they post here a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Interesting how Belicheat knew and coordinated all the other cheating or stretching of the rules that the Pats engaged in but magically knew nothing about the deflation of the footballs. Yea that is believable!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Cheats on his wife, cheats at football cheats at hungry hungry hippo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Of course he didn't. He's a schmuck, but he's not an idiot. He's a classy guy and he holds his players accountable unlike the goofball Rex. Least that's what espn told me until January 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Ya I would find it hard to believe that Mumbles did not know about doctoring the football for the last 7 yrs. If he didnt know or did the Payton look away. It was evident the FRAUD needed to do this to play at Pro Bowl level Check out this game in 2010 Tom Brady, Patriots bury Bears on snow-drenched field Brady's stats and also Fumbles Pats 0 Bears 2, this game was in a blizzard New England Passing C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS QBR RTG T. Brady 27/40 369 9.2 2 0 3-18 90.1 113.4 Team 27/40 351 8.8 2 0 3-18 -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Colin Cowherdfwiw and Charles Pierce both floated conspiracy theories basically saying that the Pats (Kraft and Belichick) are going to leave Brady out on an island with this because they know he's at the end of the line anyway, and they want to make sure the asterisk sticks to Brady's name and not the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Colin Cowherdfwiw and Charles Pierce both floated conspiracy theories basically saying that the Pats (Kraft and Belichick) are going to leave Brady out on an island with this because they know he's at the end of the line anyway, and they want to make sure the asterisk sticks to Brady's name and not the Pats. If they are doing this then this is awful even for them!!!! Good Grief!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 You mean to tell me that mumbles lies? No Way..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Colin Cowherdfwiw and Charles Pierce both floated conspiracy theories basically saying that the Pats (Kraft and Belichick) are going to leave Brady out on an island with this because they know he's at the end of the line anyway, and they want to make sure the asterisk sticks to Brady's name and not the Pats. Not that I have any love for Brady, but that would be a scumbag move by them if true. They'd be afterthoughts in this league if it weren't for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Not that I have any love for Brady, but that would be a scumbag move by them if true. They'd be afterthoughts in this league if it weren't for him. Plus I think NE fans would turn on them in a heartbeat if that ever because more than rumor. Maybe our trolls can weigh in, but if forced to choose, I think they are much more enamored of Brady than Kraft or Bellicheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny16 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Not that I have any love for Brady, but that would be a scumbag move by them if true. They'd be afterthoughts in this league if it weren't for him. I think it would be a very typical Patriot*/Belicheat move, to be honest. It's not as if they've never let go of a great player before his time was up, as they've done several times over the years. It would be different with a QB, especially one of Brady's* level, but I would never be surprised by Belichick putting his own ego ahead of things like integrity or polite manners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedAwesome Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 This BS story started with Borges, who is a convicted plagiarist, just so you know. I'm sure Belichick would of stood up in front of the entire ignorant country and educated them on the Ideal Gas Law if he didn't believe Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 This BS story started with Borges, who is a convicted plagiarist, just so you know. I'm sure Belichick would of stood up in front of the entire ignorant country and educated them on the Ideal Gas Law if he didn't believe Brady. Convinced plagiarist covering your team and a convicted murderer drafted by your team. You boys sure keep things on the up and up, no way would anyone in that organization lie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strongman Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Of course Belicheat never believed Brady... Belicheat was fully aware it was going on. It was his or Ernie Adams idea to do this to cut down on fumbles which is something of a pet peeve for Belicheat. Yes, the softer ball might be easier for CryBrady to throw and his receivers to catch, but this whole focus on CryBrady is a giant red herring to protect Belicheat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 This BS story started with Borges, who is a convicted plagiarist, just so you know. I'm sure Belichick would of stood up in front of the entire ignorant country and educated them on the Ideal Gas Law if he didn't believe Brady. what happened to the colts balls and that gas law ? you still don't have the guts to address the facts, do you ? Colts Ball 1 12.70 2 12.75 3 12.50 4 12.55 see how the colts balls are all within a few tenths of a pound or pressure ? how do you expalin the pats**** balls ? Patriots Ball 1 11.50 2 10.85 3 11.15 4 10.70 5 11.10 6 11.60 7 11.85 8 11.10 9 10.95 10 10.50 11 10.90 they are all over the place kinda like some stressed out dude stuck a needle in them in the bathroom lolololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 This BS story started with Borges, who is a convicted plagiarist, just so you know. I'm sure Belichick would of stood up in front of the entire ignorant country and educated them on the Ideal Gas Law if he didn't believe Brady. You're still going off of Bill's enlightening science lecture? I figured you'd be onto the GOB defense at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Not that I have any love for Brady, but that would be a scumbag move by them if true. They'd be afterthoughts in this league if it weren't for him. True. But legacies are involved here and it wouldn't be surprising if true, but I doubt Belicheat would go for it. He knows what Brady has meant to the team and he will probably retire a year after Brady does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strongman Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 True. But legacies are involved here and it wouldn't be surprising if true, but I doubt Belicheat would go for it. He knows what Brady has meant to the team and he will probably retire a year after Brady does. There might be something to this. The last few years, Belicheat has been setting it up so that his son could run the Cheatriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaniec Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 If they are doing this then this is awful even for them!!!! Good Grief!!!! Charlie: These guys have no moral conscience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 He's a classy guy and he holds his players accountable unlike the goofball Rex. Least that's what espn told me until January 2015 The first part of that statement is inaccurate. The second part is entirely accurate. As a disciplinarian and football coach, BB is far better than Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 The first part of that statement is inaccurate. The second part is entirely accurate. As a disciplinarian and football coach, BB is far better than Rex. What's also accurate is in their first 6 years as HC Rex made the playoffs and had a better record..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 This BS story started with Borges, who is a convicted plagiarist, just so you know. I'm sure Belichick would of stood up in front of the entire ignorant country and educated them on the Ideal Gas Law if he didn't believe Brady. Pretty sure the correct terminology here is edjumacated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 This BS story started with Borges, who is a convicted plagiarist, just so you know. Convicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 This BS story started with Borges, who is a convicted plagiarist, just so you know. What court was he convicted in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 This BS story started with Borges, who is a convicted plagiarist, just so you know. I'm sure Belichick would of stood up in front of the entire ignorant country and educated them on the Ideal Gas Law if he didn't believe Brady. So even if he copied someones words, or even was convicted somewhere in your mind, that makes him wrong here how exactly? He shouldn't be believed because of this but anyone associated with the Pats, who were all convicted of cheating with Spygate (just so you know) are now to be trusted and believed? Love Patsland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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