JetNation Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 By Glenn Naughton While Buffalo Bills Head Coach Rex Ryan is no longer patrolling the sidelines for the New York Jets, it doesn’t mean he’s not keeping up with the latest goings on of his former employer, and according to Rich Cimini of ESPN New York, Ryan was asked about the Jets current contract dispute between the Jets and Ryan Fitzpatrick. “I hope he goes somewhere else, I do,” Ryan said last week at the NFL owners meetings in Boca Raton, Florida. “He’s tougher than hell. What’s lost in it is, he might have played poorly against us — it might have been a bad day (in Week 17) — but I think they won five straight with him and he was lighting it up, probably the most yards in the history of that franchise. We’ll see. Like I said, I hope they lose him.” Ryan, of course, is referring to Fitzpatrick’s performance down the stretch as the Jets season was on the line on a seemingly weekly basis while Gang Green reeled off five consecutive wins, led by Fitzpatrick’s 13 touchdowns and just 1 interception before the team collapsed in a week 17 loss to the Bills, a game in which Fitzpatrick tied a season-high, throwing 3 interceptions. As Cimini points out, this could simply be Ryan wringing his hands given the opportunity to face Geno Smith twice next season, but in all reality that’s far from a sure thing with the Jets reportedly exploring multiple options to bring in another veteran with starting experience to compete for the top spot. Click here to read the full story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Ummmmm ... Embarrassing................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 The Bills beat the Jets and Fitzpatrick 2 times last season...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Then it's settled. We must not bring Fitzpatrick back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 any coach would rather face Geno than Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Why is anything Rex says relevant here? He speaks just to hear himself and then read about it later as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Rex was always fond of mind games. His whole philosophy is built around tricking his opponent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Rex will be the jets d coordinator come 2017, Woody is going to force him on Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, cant wait said: Rex was always fond of mind games. His whole philosophy is built around tricking his opponent Yep. Rex was Boss when it came to confusion. Just check this sh*t out: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000243688/Jets-have-no-return-man-on-punts AND... The man was soooo good and trickery, that sometimes even he didn't know what the **** was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Quote led by Fitzpatrick’s 13 touchdowns and just 1 interception before the team collapsed in a week 17 loss to the Bills, a game in which Fitzpatrick tied a season-high, throwing 3 interceptions. A 4th INT was right in Corey Graham's hands but was dropped - an easy picksix - in the 1st QTR from the Jets 12 tied 0-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 No he's not that lying Turkey neck f*ck...he owns Fitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 2 hours ago, joewilly12 said: The Bills beat the Jets and Fitzpatrick 2 times last season...... Look we won 5 games in a row and the guy had a broken thumb. It's not easy to win your last 6 games. Not many teams are that consistent. The Jets weren't good enough and that last game was against a decent team with a good D who had nothing to lose that day. I agree for once with Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 If Rex can beat us twice in the season while Fitz does well against other teams then it's in his best interests to get us to keep Fitz at the helm. Far better from his vantage point for us to keep Fitz or worse, play Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Just now, rex-n-effect said: If Rex can beat us twice in the season while Fitz does well against other teams then it's in his best interests to get us to keep Fitz at the helm. Far better from his vantage point for us to keep Fitz or worse, play Geno. Maybe Rex has no concerns over his ability to beat Fitz, but sees how well he played against Miami and NE last season and would prefer Geno under center. Gotta' root for those division opponents to beat up on each other. Jets were a dropped Marshall TD away from going 4-0 vs Mia and NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 WEX knows Fitz can't beat the BIlls, just like he(Fitz) couldn't beat the Jets. Wex would love to face Fitz 16 times every year, - just like when the Jets played the BIlls when they had Fitz/Gailey. Automatic W. Look it up. I know Fitz never beat the Jets and I don't think Gailey ever beat us as HC of the Bills, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Rex is just attempting to drive up the price of Fitz. He wants us to give him a big contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainejet Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 It makes 100% sense what Rex is saying...... As a division rival HC, would you rather face a guy that won 10 games and also reeled off 5 straight victories playing great football? Or would you rather face guy a that's totally unproven, has two seasons under his belt where he only won 12 games and lost 20, is a turnover machine, and is such an A$$hole that he got punched out by a teammate? If I am coaching against the Jets I want them to have the weakest team possible. Having Geno start very clearly makes the Jets much more vulnerable to simple defensive strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 22 minutes ago, Mainejet said: It makes 100% sense what Rex is saying...... As a division rival HC, would you rather face a guy that won 10 games and also reeled off 5 straight victories playing great football? Or would you rather face guy a that's totally unproven, has two seasons under his belt where he only won 12 games and lost 20, is a turnover machine, and is such an A$$hole that he got punched out by a teammate? If I am coaching against the Jets I want them to have the weakest team possible. Having Geno start very clearly makes the Jets much more vulnerable to simple defensive strategy. WTF does Geno have to do with this? No one mentioned Geno but you'll bring him up as if the only 2 players who are allowed to QB the Jets are Fitz or Geno? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainejet Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 30 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: WTF does Geno have to do with this? No one mentioned Geno but you'll bring him up as if the only 2 players who are allowed to QB the Jets are Fitz or Geno? Well, if it isn't Fitz or Geno then WTF else is going to? Rex not wanting Fitz being the QB means, that more than likely, GENO would be the starting QB of the Jets. It's not rocket science Jet Nut, merely common sense and deductive reasoning. You should try it some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Quote 7. Happy feet: The Jets are optimistic about Petty's chances of developing into a starter some day, but Petty must improve his pocket presence. Bowles said, "When he gets pressure, he becomes antsy and his feet start moving." Bowles said Petty must do a better job of finding his check-down receivers. This will be a tremendously important offseason for the second-year QB. When opportunity knocks ... Petty get your sh¡t together fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 51 minutes ago, Mainejet said: Well, if it isn't Fitz or Geno then WTF else is going to? Rex not wanting Fitz being the QB means, that more than likely, GENO would be the starting QB of the Jets. It's not rocket science Jet Nut, merely common sense and deductive reasoning. You should try it some time. Keep dreaming up scenarios like this. It's not rocket science but doesn't change the fact that no one other than you brought up Geno here and apparently you think that the only two QBs that the Jets can have are Geno or Fitz. You brought up Geno, no one else did. I don't agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Rex hates facing Fitz that's why he's only 8-1 versus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 7 hours ago, jetrider said: When opportunity knocks ... Petty get your sh¡t together fast. The quote you put in there is big. I truly believe that the Jets are higher on Petty than most of us out here believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 We cannot fall for Rex's mind tricks. That guy is always 2 steps ahead of everyone else. So here is how I see it: 1 Step , Rex is trying to make it seem like he is afraid of Fitz, so he wants us to actually keep Fitz for his benefit, as he can easily win 2 SB's every year with Fitz as our QB. 2 Steps, Rex is trying to make it seem like, he is making it seem like he is afraid of Fitz, and he actually does not want us to keep Fitz, but he wants us to think he does, so he wants to confuse the Fk out of all of us and make us want to go get some goddamn snacks and have no QB at all! Guy is a damn genius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Hey Rex: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Most coaches, when given the opportunity, simply supply a "no comment" when asked about another team. Or they avoid the question altogether. And that is the smart thing to do. Not old Rex though. He is the smartest coach in the room, and not afraid to tell you why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 what a loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/03/nfl-new-york-jets-free-agent-contract-geno-smith Ryan Fitzpatrick isnt as good as he thinks he is, and the Jets know it. 530SHARES SHARE TWEET EMAIL By: Steven Ruiz | March 23, 2016 6:50 pm Two weeks into NFL free agency, Ryan Fitzpatrick is still looking for a job. With a number of teams still looking for a quarterback, including Fitzpatrick’s most recent team, the New York Jets, it’s a bit surprising a quarterback who threw 31 touchdowns and led his team to 10 wins has not been signed. Fitzpatrick’s situation is a fascinating case-study in how the league balances the eye test and stats when evaluating a player. In 2015, Fitzpatrick’s tape did not necessarily match up with his numbers. He’s a quarterback with many flaws that were hidden by a tremendous supporting cast and a fair bit of luck. While the stats suggest Fitzpatrick was a league-average passer, the tape shows he was one of the worst starting quarterbacks in the league and the biggest reason a talented Jets team missed the postseason. The most glaring weakness in his Fitzpatrick game is his arm strength. He can’t push the ball more than 20 yards downfield without sacrificing accuracy. He only completed 20% of his passes on such attempts. And it’s not like Fitzpatrick is very accurate on shorter throws either. According to Cian Fahey’s quarterback charting project, 72% of Fitzpatrick passes were thrown accurately, the second worst number in the league. Having receivers Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker propped up Fitzpatrick’s numbers in a big way. The duo hauled in 26 of his 31 touchdowns. Marshall, in particular, was a big reason for Fitzpatrick’s success. His large catch radius was able to make up for his quarterback’s poor ball placement on many occasions. And Fitzpatrick’s completion percentage (59.6%) still fell way below league average. Because Fitzpatrick is a veteran and went to Harvard (Did you know he went to Harvard?), we just assume he’s a good decision-maker, in spite of the high interception totals and ill-advised scrambles. Fitzpatrick is actually quite limited in the pocket. He’s closer to a Robert Griffin III than a Tom Brady. When his first option doesn’t get open, Fitzpatrick devolves into an erratic decision-maker. Fitzpatrick threw only 15 interceptions, but that number doesn’t really capture how reckless he was with the football. Fahey charted Fitzpatrick with 30 “interceptable passes,” second most in the entire league. Only ten of those passes were actually caught by defenders — his five other interceptions were deemed the fault of the receiver. Expect a regression to the mean in 2016. Fitzpatrick is a career backup who found himself in a great situation. We’ve seen this situation play out before. Most recently in 2013, when Josh McCown put up ridiculous numbers for the Bears, got a nice contract from the Buccaneers and played like the backup he truly was in 2014. The Jets aren’t going to make that same mistake. The team understands it will not be able to pay Fitzpatrick and keep the talented supporting cast that props him up. Going back to Geno Smith is the more financially sound decision if New York can’t find a cheaper option. Smith is a very flawed quarterback but not much of a downgrade from Fitzpatrick. He’s just as inaccurate and turnover-prone but has a much stronger arm. His 2014 rate stats (completion percentage, yards per attempt, etc.) aren’t far off from what Fitzpatrick was able to produce with a much better team around him. And at 25, Smith has the much higher ceiling. Even if Fitzpatrick were to come down to the Jets’ price, which is reportedly a shade under $10 million, I’m not so sure it’s worth coughing up the money. Smith is on the books for just $1.59 million in 2016 and might be the better quarterback if given the chance. The Jets offense did just fine when Smith took over for an injured Fitzpatrick during the Raiders game. With the team already struggling to maintain its defense — the real strength of the roster — those millions it can save by passing on Fitzpatrick are a big deal. Per Spotrac. The team has about $2 million in projected cap room and still needs money to sign its rookie class. For the Jets to clear enough space to give Fitzpatrick even a modest contract, the team would have to make some cost-cutting moves, which could include trading all-pro defensive lineman Muhammad Wilkerson, who is set to make $15.7 million playing under the franchise tag in 2016. In order to marginally improve the team’s quarterback situation, the team will have to take giant steps backwards elsewhere. And if Fitzpatrick couldn’t get the 2015 roster to the playoffs, why should we expect any different with a weaker team in 2016? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Charlie Brown said: The quote you put in there is big. I truly believe that the Jets are higher on Petty than most of us out here believe. Agreed. There is no advantage in telling the world that they hope he could help as a backup. Think they're flipping back and forth, blowing smoke up people's asses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 The only person whose opinion on QBs is less informed than Rex's would be @Pac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 15 hours ago, JetNation said: By Glenn Naughton While Buffalo Bills Head Coach Rex Ryan is no longer patrolling the sidelines for the New York Jets, it doesn’t mean he’s not keeping up with the latest goings on of his former employer, and according to Rich Cimini of ESPN New York, Ryan was asked about the Jets current contract dispute between the Jets and Ryan Fitzpatrick. “I hope he goes somewhere else, I do,” Ryan said last week at the NFL owners meetings in Boca Raton, Florida. “He’s tougher than hell. What’s lost in it is, he might have played poorly against us — it might have been a bad day (in Week 17) — but I think they won five straight with him and he was lighting it up, probably the most yards in the history of that franchise. We’ll see. Like I said, I hope they lose him.” Ryan, of course, is referring to Fitzpatrick’s performance down the stretch as the Jets season was on the line on a seemingly weekly basis while Gang Green reeled off five consecutive wins, led by Fitzpatrick’s 13 touchdowns and just 1 interception before the team collapsed in a week 17 loss to the Bills, a game in which Fitzpatrick tied a season-high, throwing 3 interceptions. As Cimini points out, this could simply be Ryan wringing his hands given the opportunity to face Geno Smith twice next season, but in all reality that’s far from a sure thing with the Jets reportedly exploring multiple options to bring in another veteran with starting experience to compete for the top spot. Click here to read the full story... Dude is straight trolling us lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Just now, Villain The Foe said: Dude is straight trolling us lol. Yep. Like he actually fears Fitzpatrick in the division. lmfao. The guy is showmen, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainejet Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 9 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Keep dreaming up scenarios like this. It's not rocket science but doesn't change the fact that no one other than you brought up Geno here and apparently you think that the only two QBs that the Jets can have are Geno or Fitz. You brought up Geno, no one else did. I don't agree. Well, don't agree until your blue in the face.... I'll pose the question once again so you can attempt to give your reply some weight. If the starting QB for NYJ is NOT Fitz or GENO, then WHO is it going to be? Please throw us with all those wonderful suggestions and keen insight into who might be their starter. Because you're saying I'm an a$$hole for thinking that ONLY Fitz or Geno could be the possible starters? Right? Does that about sum it up? Stop blaming me for something that is very much REALITY. I didn't make this situation for the Jets. The Jets management made this situation. Get angry with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainejet Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: The quote you put in there is big. I truly believe that the Jets are higher on Petty than most of us out here believe. They are higher on Petty WHEN HE'S READY TO PLAY. That isn't right now. He still has a lot to learn. We'll likely know how good this guy can be probably in the 2017 season some time, but right now Bryce Petty is only being talked about as the backup QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Mainejet said: They are higher on Petty WHEN HE'S READY TO PLAY. That isn't right now. He still has a lot to learn. We'll likely know how good this guy can be probably in the 2017 season some time, but right now Bryce Petty is only being talked about as the backup QB. You are right and hence the countinued courting of fitz..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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