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Who makes the 53 man roster for the NY Jets this camp? How many WRs do we keep? Do both make it while Smith gets sent to PUP?

Give me your WRs. We already know that Chan likes Enunwa. Marshall-Decker-Enunwa- Smith (PUP?)- ?-?-?

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I think both.  

  1. Marshall
  2. Decker  (1 and 2 are obvious)
  3. Smith (not sure if he'll be the 3, but he obviously isn't going anywhere - in fact, might be PUP to start)
  4. Thompkins (think they keep him for his size and blocking)
  5. Enunwa (will be on the field more than Smith and Thompkins, but doesn't really factor into the WR "depth chart" due to his status as an "H" back / quasi Tight End.
  6. Peake (think he sticks due to rare size speed combination, and ceiling to maybe one day replace either Marshall or Decker).
  7. Marshall (think he sticks as the team's main punt returner, which we don't have, special teams ace, and swiss army knife)
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I'm thinking six WR's make it:

Marshall
Decker
Enunwa
Smith
Peake
J. Marshall

We would be very young after Marshall & Decker but those four would provide us
the most future upside.  I believe Enunwa & Smith would have to show improvement
for Bowles/Gailey to feel comfortable in keeping Peake & J. Marshall.  It wouldn't
be nuts to keep seven WR's and not have a FB on the roster

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3 minutes ago, KRL said:

I'm thinking six WR's make it:

Marshall
Decker
Enunwa
Smith
Peake
J. Marshall

We would be very young after Marshall & Decker but those four would provide us
the most future upside.  I believe Enunwa & Smith would have to show improvement
for Bowles/Gailey to feel comfortable in keeping Peake & J. Marshall.  It wouldn't
be nuts to keep seven WR's and not have a FB on the roster

"It wouldn't be nuts to keep seven WR's and not have a FB on the roster"

Yes it would. The Jets are keeping a FB and plan to run the ball...a lot. 

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I don't think Thompkins is going to make the team.  Nothing to do about his ability. His salary versus his ceiling.  I think we can count Enunwa as a WR/TE and with Smith probably in the PUP/IR so another lost offseason for him, you keep an extra WR.

B. Marshall

Decker

Peake

J. Marshall

Anderson

yes this leaves only two experienced WRs but add Enunwa, Amaro, and Forte and I think this is the best option.  J. Marshall will primarily be our ST and returner while both Peake and Anderson were both rated as 3rd/4th rounders by CBS Sportsline.  

Start developing them to eventually replace the big 2.

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2 hours ago, Jetster said:

Who makes the 53 man roster for the NY Jets this camp? How many WRs do we keep? Do both make it while Smith gets sent to PUP?

Give me your WRs. We already know that Chan likes Enunwa. Marshall-Decker-Enunwa- Smith (PUP?)- ?-?-?

WRs : Marshall, Decker, Smith, Enunwa,  Thompkins,   and Peake

Practice squad : Robbie Anderson and Titus Davis

PUP : Smith goes on IR designated to return list. Titus Davis is added to the roster.

RBs : Forte', Powell , Robinson and Marshall

Marshall is the special teams ace on punt and KO returns

Practice Squad : Romar Morris who I hope we add from the tryout players .

 

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As with last year, the roster looks overfull in spots, but with injuries and self-implosions, it will likely work itself out.

There is no way Devin Smith is on the 53 in September.  He will be on some form of IR/PUP.

Given all of that, I think the Jets will be well-rostered at WR, particularly when compared to the Greg Salas period.

The bigger issues are 1) who are the TEs (expect a surprise or two) and 2) is there a FB?

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4 minutes ago, jetsfan719 said:

Whateve happend to chris osuwu? I thought he tore an acl last year but havent heard about him since. I remember him being pretty decent

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He's a FA right now.. Someone may sign him but he's been hurt alot..

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23 minutes ago, jetsfan719 said:

Whateve happend to chris osuwu? I thought he tore an acl last year but havent heard about him since. I remember him being pretty decent

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Dudes brain is damaged. He's nuts if he gives it another try. He's a smart kid with a good education, he should hang em up.

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2 hours ago, Tinstar said:

WRs : Marshall, Decker, Smith, Enunwa,  Thompkins,   and Peake

Practice squad : Robbie Anderson and Titus Davis

PUP : Smith goes on IR designated to return list. Titus Davis is added to the roster.

RBs : Forte', Powell , Robinson and Marshall

Marshall is the special teams ace on punt and KO returns

Practice Squad : Romar Morris who I hope we add from the tryout players .

 

Thompkins is definitely on the bubble with Peake, Marshall & Robinson here, but he does have experience. All these guys though have more speed & upside. I love that we are finally getting faster, we have to find a QB out of our 3 that can stretch the field so our big guns can abuse teams underneath.

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I wouldn't overlook Robby Anderson.  The guy has speed to burn and is 6'3.  He could stand to add a few pounds but he reportedly has looked good in mini camp and had a very productive career at Temple.  If Peake really flashes, than I can see Thomkins the odd man out because he would be redundant.  

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All of those WR's should either make the roster or the practice squad. I like all of the WR's he hauled in. 

I think Marshall will make it because we need a punt returner. Anderson and Peake are freaks and are probably already better than the set of WR's Geno had to throw to in 2013/2014 outside of Decker given his injury at that time.

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3 hours ago, varjet said:

As with last year, the roster looks overfull in spots, but with injuries and self-implosions, it will likely work itself out.

There is no way Devin Smith is on the 53 in September.  He will be on some form of IR/PUP.

Given all of that, I think the Jets will be well-rostered at WR, particularly when compared to the Greg Salas period.

The bigger issues are 1) who are the TEs (expect a surprise or two) and 2) is there a FB?

You said Greg Salas and my assh0le clenched up because I remembered the days we had to watch him start....which, was basically the equivalent of sodomy for a fan.

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Enunwa is not a wide receiver guys.

i believe peake will make it, as do all of the beat writers. They say his hands and rate running was great at the jets minicamp.

it should really be Anderson vs Marshall. Anderson was doing very good for himself, as was Marshall which ever one of them shows that they can do more than be a receiver makes it imo 

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1 hour ago, Jetster said:

Thompkins is definitely on the bubble with Peake, Marshall & Robinson here, but he does have experience. All these guys though have more speed & upside. I love that we are finally getting faster, we have to find a QB out of our 3 that can stretch the field so our big guns can abuse teams underneath.

From the rookie camp reports, they were saying hack overthrew a  deep ball, but Anderson was so fast he caught up with it, also lots of reports that hack kept hitting peake deep, I think the jets want to get young fast receivers because hackenbergs best strength is his deep ball, so they can stretch the field

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1 hour ago, JetBlue said:

I wouldn't overlook Robby Anderson.  The guy has speed to burn and is 6'3.  He could stand to add a few pounds but he reportedly has looked good in mini camp and had a very productive career at Temple.  If Peake really flashes, than I can see Thomkins the odd man out because he would be redundant.  

This is what I hope happens.

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6 hours ago, carlito1171 said:

I can see keeping both too esp with Devin Smith likely to start the season on the PUP/IR designated to return list.....

Agreed...  It would be sort of an extended training camp for Marshall with smith on IR.  If he performs, they make room to keep him...if not they cut him or add to the PS.

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Well this really depends on a few things:

1.  Injuries, there are always injuries so we have to see who goes down.

2.  Is Enunwa classified as a TE or WR?  Amaro and Enunwa at TE?  I don't know what Kellen Davis brings to the team to warrant a roster spot.  

3.  Is Dri Archer the 4th RB?  Zach Stacy was the human QB dive last year.   If Archer is just a return specialist, then Marshall is in trouble.  Khiry Robinson should be the 3rd guy, so it might be a fight between them for the 4th spot.   

4.  Gailey likes big WRs, so Marshall might not have as good of a shot as Peake or Robinson.   

I think it comes down to Archer (much more pure speed) vs. Marshall (more open field moves).   

I think Peake is all but a lock to make the team unless he's hurt.  He has too much potential in this case. 

Marshall/Decker/Smith/Peake/Enunwa are pretty much locks to me.  I think if Smith goes on the PUP, then Robinson makes the team as the deep threat guy.  Marshall to me is fighting Archer, which should be interesting.  Now, if Enunwa is classified as a TE, then it opens the door for Marshall.

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46 minutes ago, Colgateman said:

Enunwa is not a wide receiver guys.

i believe peake will make it, as do all of the beat writers. They say his hands and rate running was great at the jets minicamp.

it should really be Anderson vs Marshall. Anderson was doing very good for himself, as was Marshall which ever one of them shows that they can do more than be a receiver makes it imo 

Huh? What do you mean Enunwa isn't a WR? Yes he is.

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33 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said:

Line up Enunwa as the FB on the rare occasion a FB is needed.

Ok. Well. It's not that rare that the Jets have a FB in. Enunwa IS NOT a true FB and is nowhere near the run blocker Bohanon is. You're not going to lineup Enunwa in an I-formation and expect him to pound through a hole in the D-line, he's a WR for christ's sake. He just happens to have good size and be a good blocker for a WR. Had he been a better WR in general, faster, better route runner, better hands, etc.- the whole H-back thing would be scrapped and he would play WR. But he's not, and kudos to him and the coaching staff for finding a role for him. But we're not cutting Bohanon and having Enunwa play FB now that he had SOME success as an H-back.  

I'm sorry. I don't mean to offend, but the idea is silly and its not going to happen. 

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11 minutes ago, win4ever said:

Well this really depends on a few things:

1.  Injuries, there are always injuries so we have to see who goes down.

2.  Is Enunwa classified as a TE or WR?  Amaro and Enunwa at TE?  I don't know what Kellen Davis brings to the team to warrant a roster spot.  

3.  Is Dri Archer the 4th RB?  Zach Stacy was the human QB dive last year.   If Archer is just a return specialist, then Marshall is in trouble.  Khiry Robinson should be the 3rd guy, so it might be a fight between them for the 4th spot.   

4.  Gailey likes big WRs, so Marshall might not have as good of a shot as Peake or Robinson.   

I think it comes down to Archer (much more pure speed) vs. Marshall (more open field moves).   

I think Peake is all but a lock to make the team unless he's hurt.  He has too much potential in this case. 

Marshall/Decker/Smith/Peake/Enunwa are pretty much locks to me.  I think if Smith goes on the PUP, then Robinson makes the team as the deep threat guy.  Marshall to me is fighting Archer, which should be interesting.  Now, if Enunwa is classified as a TE, then it opens the door for Marshall.

 "Marshall to me is fighting Archer, which should be interesting"

Don't forget Ross, who is a WR and was signed as a Kick/Punt returner. But yes, I agree.

I think you also have to consider K.Thompkins. The Jets liked him enough to re-sign him. And he has more experience than any of these rookies...so you gotta think he at least has a shot. He's also not eligible for practice squad, which influences the final cuts coaches are willing to make. 

By Robinson did you mean Robby Anderson? Or K.Robinson, the RB?   

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10 minutes ago, PepPep said:

Ok. Well. It's not that rare that the Jets have a FB in. Enunwa IS NOT a true FB and is nowhere near the run blocker Bohanon is. You're not going to lineup Enunwa in an I-formation and expect him to pound through a hole in the D-line, he's a WR for christ's sake. He just happens to have good size and be a good blocker for a WR. Had he been a better WR in general, faster, better route runner, better hands, etc.- the whole H-back thing would be scrapped and he would play WR. But he's not, and kudos to him and the coaching staff for finding a role for him. But we're not cutting Bohanon and having Enunwa play FB now that he had SOME success as an H-back.  

I'm sorry. I don't mean to offend, but the idea is silly and its not going to happen. 

No offense taken, nothing wrong with ideas being silly. Particularly when post draft withdrawal sets in.

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23 minutes ago, PepPep said:

 "Marshall to me is fighting Archer, which should be interesting"

Don't forget Ross, who is a WR and was signed as a Kick/Punt returner. But yes, I agree.

I think you also have to consider K.Thompkins. The Jets liked him enough to re-sign him. And he has more experience than any of these rookies...so you gotta think he at least has a shot. He's also not eligible for practice squad, which influences the final cuts coaches are willing to make. 

By Robinson did you mean Robby Anderson? Or K.Robinson, the RB?   

Yeah he could be a factor too.  I think it's refreshing to have extra talent for a change, lol.  2 years ago, you could fit Peake, Archer, Marshall, and Robinson on the team without much stretch.  

Thompkins is interesting, but I also think he was a better fit with Fitz than any of the current QBs.  I think the current guys are much better deep passers, so they would want true burners out there because it changes the dynamics of the defense so much to have a safety be shaded over to where the speed guy is.   

I meant Robby Anderson, sorry, I screwed that up.  He's another one with really good upside, but he needs to put on weight urgently.  He has major trouble with press coverage, but he has a ton of potential as well.   I think the current regime emphasizes size/speed and he has those in spades.   

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1 hour ago, Embrace the Suck said:

Line up Enunwa as the FB on the rare occasion a FB is needed.

Or Sheldon Richardson. Or two RB's if you want hands back there. FB is an antiquated position, More teams don't carry one than do, it seems. 

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7 hours ago, Beerfish said:

I hope that they force the issue to the point that Tompkins gets cut as a result.

I think there's a good chance of that happening. The team probably wants these kids to give them a reason to not pay Thompkins the better part of $2M for the year. The good thing is with Marshall & Decker they don't necessarily need another veteran like Thompkins, whose RFA-tagged salary isn't guaranteed.

Tagging Thompkins has all the smells of an emergency contingency plan based on who they did or didn't get in the draft, and to have another warm body on board so they don't reach for a 'must get' instant #3-4 WR. Especially without knowing where Smith is going to be in his rehab 4-6 months later.

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