Jet Nut Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Jetdawgg said: Your defense of your argument is shallow. He is an upgrade over Petty and Hack. If the price is reasonable you get him. You've never seen Hackenberg play, you don't know he's better. And Petty outplayed him head to head a year ago. Nothing shallow about someone's opinion. Then again you said it was lame earlier. Id rather sign Cutler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Lot K Tailgaters said: No way does he come here. While Woody may have his brother run the show they know the backlash they took when they signed Vick. It wasn't tons of backlash but it didn't help sell tickets which is what he wants to do. Also while I disagree strongly with not standing for the flag my issue is I won't support a QB who wears a shirt of Fidel Castro and wears socks with pigs on them to go against the police. If Kaepernick comes I would strongly consider dropping my season tickets. I have already considered dropping them because of Woody's support of Trump who I don't want to get a penny of my money. He didn't actually wear a Castro shirt and he's not a real Castro supporter. He wore a Malcolm X shirt, and 1 of the pics had Fidel in it. Big difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lot K Tailgaters Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, King P said: He didn't actually wear a Castro shirt and he's not a real Castro supporter. He wore a Malcolm X shirt, and 1 of the pics had Fidel in it. Big difference There were I believe 6 pics on the shirt all were of a meeting between Castro and Malcolm X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Couldn't care less about Kap's politics. I just don't think we can win long-term with his style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said: You've never seen Hackenberg play, you don't know he's better. And Petty outplayed him head to head a year ago. Nothing shallow about someone's opinion. Then again you said it was lame earlier. Id rather sign Cutler I spend a great deal of time n PA. I was not impressed with Hack. Cutler is old and expensive. Kaepernick is a good upgrade to the Jets QB corps. Sign him and Geno. Let one of them win the job. Cut Petty. Best bet for the NYJ next season. Add a RB. The shallow part of the argument is to say he sucks and can't support your (pl) argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, jetscrazey said: Couldn't care less about Kap's politics. I just don't think we can win long-term with his style of play. He can be a bridge QB till Hack is ready. If he ever is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 On 1/30/2017 at 11:00 AM, Maxman said: Man I hope not. Pass on Kap. If for no other reason than he is a terrible QB. I'm not a fan of Kap but he did play well under Jim Harbaugh and we don't have a Jim Harbaugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Jetdawgg said: He can be a bridge QB till Hack is ready. If he ever is. If you want a bridge to Hack then a 30 year old Kap is simply not the answer. He's young and will want good money, not great money but good money and this team is not in that position right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 5 hours ago, Jetdawgg said: I spend a great deal of time n PA. I was not impressed with Hack. Cutler is old and expensive. Kaepernick is a good upgrade to the Jets QB corps. Sign him and Geno. Let one of them win the job. Cut Petty. Best bet for the NYJ next season. Add a RB. The shallow part of the argument is to say he sucks and can't support your (pl) argument. Excuse me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 13 hours ago, Blackout said: He was pretty good for the worst team in the league last year. I expected him to be awful and he really was their only good player. give him a shot. That is what I like to call "Percy Harvin and Tavon Austin syndrome". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Smashmouth said: If you want a bridge to Hack then a 30 year old Kap is simply not the answer. He's young and will want good money, not great money but good money and this team is not in that position right now. His market may not be large enough for him to make that type of demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Mogglez said: Excuse me? I saw Hack play at PS. Geno is a NYJ 2nd round draft pick. He is also better than Petty and Hack. Easy to see by the Jets are losers. They throw away better players at positions and keep worse players. Not a very sustainable practice. Excused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nooloo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Having followed Kaep since he was at Nevada I definitely think he would be an upgrade for the Jets. I was hoping he would land here last year when there was the same rumors/rumblings. However, I lost a lot of respect for him over his political statements and antics this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 6 years in the NFL. He has thrown for more than 20 TDs one time. His best year he threw for 3,369 yards. He is a poor man's Tyrod Taylor. And his baggage only makes him a distraction. Pass, pass, pass and pass twice (on him) on Sunday's. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick was viewed as a potential fit at quarterback for the Jets in the early parts of 2016. Now, Kaepernick could very well be in line to be a member of the Jets in 2017. With the Jets hiring former Saints wide receivers coach John Morton as their new offensive coordinator, Kaepernick now has ties to the quarterback-needy Jets. Morton was the wide receivers coach with the 49ers from 2011-2014, which were coincidentally Kaepernick’s best years as a starting quarterback. Since then, he has essentially fallen off of the face of the earth in terms of performance, but the familiarity between the two could lead to a reunion in New York. Morton’s background is as a wide receivers coach, so a good quarterback coach would have to be brought in to help Kaepernick fix his deficiencies as a passer. With no other arms on the roster other than Bryce Petty and Christian Hackenberg, the Jets are almost certain to add a QB. Whether it will be Kaepernick or not remains to be seen, but there is a connection there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 On 1/31/2017 at 0:35 PM, thadude said: Geno Smith has great physical tools too Sure. But he hasn't had the actual NFL success that Kap has. Like I said, it's a pure boom or bust, upside surprise or top draft pick play. There are really only two ways to get a stud QB in this league: (1) have a top-2 draft pick in a good QB year; or (2) get lucky with a mid-round pick or FA. The Jets need to take a high-variance approach to the QB position in 2017 because the alternative - a mediocre veteran who doesn't get us a real shot at winning a Super Bowl and also locks us out of the high draft slot needed to have a real chance at the position in 2018 and forward - is worse. Of the available FA QBs, that basically means Glennon or Kaepernick; nobody else is high-enough variance. Guys like Cutler are way too low-ceiling and give no runway even if you squeeze a year or two out of them, and the other available options are no-variance duds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Mogglez said: That is what I like to call "Percy Harvin and Tavon Austin syndrome". I was creating threads about Kaep being trash 4 years ago, if I can eat my words anyone can. he proved last year that despite the fans and media being against him he could still ball. and the 49ers voted him team MVP, hes a good locker room guy. sign him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Nothing to do with politics on CK. I just think we've seen his ceiling and it's very low. I think his numbers are off because opposing D's know how to play him. As far as being an interim Qb with younger ones learning behind him, nothing about him makes me think he'd be a good teacher for them. I would definitely pass on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Jetdawgg said: I saw Hack play at PS. Geno is a NYJ 2nd round draft pick. He is also better than Petty and Hack. Easy to see by the Jets are losers. They throw away better players at positions and keep worse players. Not a very sustainable practice. Excused. Right. The Jets are losers for getting rid of Geno Smith. If only they'd recognize what they really have. He blows chunks, is a locker room cancer, and will be gone the second he's allowed to be cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Right. The Jets are losers for getting rid of Geno Smith. If only they'd recognize what they really have. He blows chunks, is a locker room cancer, and will be gone the second he's allowed to be cut. Geno is better than Petty and Hack. You continue to miss that FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: Geno is better than Petty and Hack. You continue to miss that FACT I would hope that a guy that's been in the league 4 (going on 5) seasons is better than a project QB in his 2nd year and a rookie, but that's just me. The fact that Geno's TC, performances in preseason, and his massive f*ck up that got him hurt this year have left that up for debate is actually comically sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Mogglez said: I would hope that a guy that's been in the league 4 (going on 5) seasons is better than a project QB in his 2nd year and a rookie, but that's just me. The fact that Geno's performances in preseason and his massive f*ck up that got him hurt have left that up for debate is actually comically sad. The Jets QB situation is comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 36 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: The Jets QB situation is comical. So we should make it more comical by pulling a complete shocker and resigning the sh*tty QB that everyone hates and that we can all but guarantee is gone at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 If Kaep truly is a communist, maybe he'll buy tickets for the homeless to sit in the club seats. I'm all for the signing in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 23 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: Geno is better than Petty and Hack. You continue to miss that FACT But his ceiling is where it is at right here and now. He has not improved at all the last few years. since he is not good enough for what we want then you are spinning your wheels with him. To get a franchise guy you have to keep trying until you find one. Geno may end up being physically 'better' than another vet that we pick up but he's past due here and should be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 The hate for Kap wanting to stand up for racial equality and protest in a quiet manner is incredible. He was on his knees, paying the due respect to the flag. He chose to protest quietly. Nothing wrong with that. There's no disrespect there. He wasn't sitting down. He was on one knee. That's an act of respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 16 hours ago, Jetdawgg said: He can be a bridge QB till Hack is ready. If he ever is. Well, the bridge needs to about 10+ year long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 28 minutes ago, j4jets said: The hate for Kap wanting to stand up for racial equality and protest in a quiet manner is incredible. He was on his knees, paying the due respect to the flag. He chose to protest quietly. Nothing wrong with that. There's no disrespect there. He wasn't sitting down. He was on one knee. That's an act of respect. Sometimes people want to watch a football game and steer clear of politi-tards on both sides. Sure, CBS, Fox, et al make this nearly impossible, I get it. That said, Kaeps ability to choose a time and place leaves a lot to be desired for a lot of folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 28 minutes ago, Jet9 said: Sometimes people want to watch a football game and steer clear of politi-tards on both sides. Sure, CBS, Fox, et al make this nearly impossible, I get it. That said, Kaeps ability to choose a time and place leaves a lot to be desired for a lot of folks. I get that. But he was simply on one knee, quietly. Wasn't creating scene or anything. He wasn't distracting anyone. Like it or not, this is part of the game. We have half-time shows where you have artists performing. Thats not football, but it has become a part of the overall game experience. Again, someone taking a knee shouldn't distract anyone from enjoying the game. Now Fitz throwing six picks with a pick six is a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Is Quincy Carter available? I remember he threw one nice long pass down the right sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 11 hours ago, Jetdawgg said: I saw Hack play at PS. Geno is a NYJ 2nd round draft pick. He is also better than Petty and Hack. Easy to see by the Jets are losers. They throw away better players at positions and keep worse players. Not a very sustainable practice. Excused. Yes, bad teams are defined by ridding themselves of talent like Geno Smith. Talk about shallow or lame, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 4 hours ago, Jetdawgg said: The Jets QB situation is comical. And signing Kaep would fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 4 hours ago, Jetdawgg said: Geno is better than Petty and Hack. You continue to miss that FACT How can you saying Geno is better than someone who has never thrown a NFL pass fact? You have no idea, but it's a fact. OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 I was outraged when they picked up Michael " Sick " Vick, this would be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 3 hours ago, Mogglez said: So we should make it more comical by pulling a complete shocker and resigning the sh*tty QB that everyone hates and that we can all but guarantee is gone at this point? Hating a player who is better than what you have at the most important position int pro football is no reason to keep the bad player.. If you want to win consistently, you get rid of the worse players, A great deal of fans here like Futz. How smart was that to re sign him? Pro football is a business. A business that teams play to win. Fans liking players do not necessarily add up to wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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