JustInFudge Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 minute ago, chirorob said: I don't know about 6, but he can do everything. He was literally like 40+% of their offense. So was Alvin Kamara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Just now, JiF said: So was Alvin Kamara. Love Kamara, sign me up for him in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I see a lot of OJ Howard, Eric Ebron comparisons so here are there combine numbers http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/o.j.-howard?id=2557856 - Howard http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/eric-ebron?id=2543466 - Ebron They look very similar in terms of measurables. I don't watch college football so someone who does can weigh in on the differences they saw on the tapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Lupz27 said: Will it take 3 years for Howard to show anything useful like Davis, and Olsen? Is Petty/Hack/McCown better than Griese/Grossman/Orton? haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecca Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Just now, Lupz27 said: Will it take 3 years for Howard to show anything useful like Davis, and Olsen? That's a lazy argument. A lot is dependent on the specific player and scheme. But, I can tell you, we're not in dire need of him being ready year 1. We can let him grow this year. Not that I think that's the case. Davis never had Howard's hands and Olsen can't run like Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Just now, bgivs21 said: I see a lot of OJ Howard, Eric Ebron comparisons so here are there combine numbers http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/o.j.-howard?id=2557856 - Howard http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/eric-ebron?id=2543466 - Ebron They look very similar in terms of measurables. I don't watch college football so someone who does can weigh in on the differences they saw on the tapes. Willingness to block, and effectiveness at doing it is the projected difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Howard/Cook combo is what I'm hoping for But Mac probably doesn't have the security to take a shot on someone like Cook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, bgivs21 said: I see a lot of OJ Howard, Eric Ebron comparisons so here are there combine numbers http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/o.j.-howard?id=2557856 - Howard http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/eric-ebron?id=2543466 - Ebron They look very similar in terms of measurables. I don't watch college football so someone who does can weigh in on the differences they saw on the tapes. Stephen Hill- Calvin Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 Charley Casserly @CharleyCasserly Sources told me #Broncos are targeting Garett Bolles for LOT need. He is best LOT pass protector in Draft. Would be gd pick. @nflnetwork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Did someone compare Ebron to OJ? I don't think people have watched him play.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, AFJF said: All drafted by teams other than the Jets, who are averse to offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, thebuzzardman said: All drafted by teams other than the Jets, who are averse to offense NO OFFENSE FOR YOU!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 54 minutes ago, Mecca said: The key is to not view him like a TE. Ran a 4.5 flat and murdered the 3 cone drill. He's a chess piece and #1 weapon Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 56 minutes ago, slats said: While I don't like the idea of either position, either, I'd take the 25+ touch a game RB over a TE who's having a monster game if he catches 6 passes. If those 6 catches convert to 2 TD drives (perhaps via key 3rd down conversions, etc.) and draw attention off the WRs and RB, then the disparity in touches isn't as meaningful. I guess you could say would you rather have Antonio Gates or Curtis Martin. Both guys help an offense tremendously in different ways. The thing for me if Fournette is a consistent 'move the chains' guy. Usually good for a 3rd and 2 situation and usually able to get 3-4 yards on first down rushes, then I'd opt for that. I'm so f-ing sick of 3-and-outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nycdan Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Lupz27 said: So one team in the middle of the round has him #2 on their QB depth chart. That's not really putting yourself out on a limb, Kristian. Of course if it does happen, he'll look like Nostradamus I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 2 hours ago, JiF said: I guess but Marcus Mariota isnt winning them games. He's the ultimate game manager right now as their passing attack sucks. In fact, I think he's probably lost them more games than he's won them. That team is all about that OL and the running game that Robinson built. He's stocked piled picks too...they're in good shape right now. I'd disagree. Look at his individual games last season and look at his red zone numbers for his career. He'll be a top 10 QB next season and had he not broke his leg last December, he would have taken his team from #1 pick to playoffs in 1 season. My point is this, the Jets, like the Texans, can build a great roster everywhere but QB. And any success they have is very short lived. Doesn't matter how well you scout, draft, or build a team, in today's NFL, it doesn't mean anything if you can't find a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Anita Marks saying that Giants and Steelers are trying to trade up to get Mahomes. She says the Jets love Fournette and Hooker and won't trade down past 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Anita Marks saying that Giants and Steelers are trying to trade up to get Mahomes. She says the Jets love Fournette and Hooker and won't trade down past 12. Just the thought of Fournette in our backfield excites the hell out of me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Anita Marks saying that Giants and Steelers are trying to trade up to get Mahomes. She says the Jets love Fournette and Hooker and won't trade down past 12. So we have people saying the Jets love Fournette, Howard, and Hooker. Really hoping we draft one of the first two though. I like Hooker, but the injuries scare me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Just now, Seth said: So we have people saying the Jets love Fournette, Howard, and Hooker. Really hoping we draft one of the first two though. I like Hooker, but the injuries scare me. He wasn't injury prone like Lattimore though. He had surgery and it was done with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: He wasn't injury prone like Lattimore though. He had surgery and it was done with Yes, but we have ZERO tape of him post-surgery though. Lattimore is the pick that instantly puts me in the Fire Macc boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Seth said: Yes, but we have ZERO tape of him post-surgery though. Lattimore is the pick that instantly puts me in the Fire Macc boat. Him and Allen would be my anger picks. And he knows that he needs to nail this so I don't think he's going to take Lattimore. In order, my preferences would be: Trade Down Howard Fournette Hooker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Him and Allen would be my anger picks. And he knows that he needs to nail this so I don't think he's going to take Lattimore CB is perfect pick in the second round. I'm betting OJ Howard if we stay at 6 although Fournette would be a gutsy pick. Just hard to justify even a great RB in a RB-deep draft on a team that has 20 holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwanseaJack Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 23 minutes ago, nycdan said: So one team in the middle of the round has him #2 on their QB depth chart. That's not really putting yourself out on a limb, Kristian. Of course if it does happen, he'll look like Nostradamus I guess. Haha exactly. Also got "depending on how things fall" in there too. The draft must be the easiest thing to make yourself look knowledgeable. Make a few educated guesses to get some predictions right, explain the incorrect ones away by saying that a trade up/down didn't happen, they weren't expecting X to still be there when they drafted etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 If u draft hooker at 6 he better well damn be Ed reed II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Just take OJ and get your top 5 TE, and simultaneously create an environment for a young QB to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Watson to the Jags at 4 has some heat to it hear on the local radio in Jax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Just now, JiF said: Watson to the Jags at 4 has some heat to it hear on the local radio in Jax. Likely means LF falls to us in that scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Lupz27 said: Willingness to block, and effectiveness at doing it is the projected difference. Not even half of it. Ebron had one of the worst hands in college football Howard had some of the best. And not just willingness to block but ability to block. A Howard Ebron comparison would be from nobody except a layman, bored, lazy NFL fan who never watched either play in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 minute ago, HessStation said: Not even half of it. Ebron had one of the worst hands in college football Howard had some of the best. And not just willingness to block but ability to block. A Howard Ebron comparison would be from nobody except a layman, bored, lazy NFL fan who never watched either play in college. Lazy NFL fan Is that what you call contradiction in terms...or would it be more considered ironic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, JiF said: Watson to the Jags at 4 has some heat to it hear on the local radio in Jax. Read that elsewhere also. Wondering what happens to Bortles. If Watson/Trubisky gone by 6, I don't see a problem with Howard at 6. Better option than Hooker & Fournette for the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Just now, SMC said: Read that elsewhere also. Wondering what happens to Bortles. If Watson/Trubisky gone by 6, I don't see a problem with Howard at 6. Better option than Hooker & Fournette for the Jets. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntoTheGreen Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, SMC said: Read that elsewhere also. Wondering what happens to Bortles. If Watson/Trubisky gone by 6, I don't see a problem with Howard at 6. Better option than Hooker & Fournette for the Jets. Becomes a Jet next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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