Jetsbb Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Rich Cimini: http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/75197/quarterback-starved-jets-make-right-move-by-trading-up "I believe the Jets' top three are Sam Darnold, Josh Allen and Josh Rosen, in no particular order. That's based on conversations with personnel people around the league. The early sense is that the Jets don't rate Baker Mayfield in that upper-echelon category. It's worth noting that Maccagnan left the Jets' free-agency war room in recent days to attend the Rosen and Mayfield pro days. It was a final look-see before he made this trade." Mogglez: "To make a very long story short they're incredibly high on all of the top 4 with Rosen and Darnold at the very top, Mayfield and Allen just below, in that order. However, Baker Mayfield is about to make our top 2 (Rosen, Darnold) a top 3 if he does well in the private meeting/workout we set up with him. He was incredibly impressive when we met with him for over 4 hours at the Senior Bowl, and even more so at the Combine. Football IQ is off the charts. Allen isn't dumb by any means. In fact, I heard he tested better than expected on the white board. However, he's just a little behind the other 3 in that regard. Obviously, where he makes up for this is his measurables and his arm that no one else comes close to." Its very likely Darnold and Rosen will be 1-2 Macaggnon gave up a lot to get one of the 2nd tiered QB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Bring on Josh Rosenrosen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Bring on Dr Rosenrosen! Giants are either taking him or trading him to someone that will. Jets are getting Josh Allen or Mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: Rich Cimini: http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/75197/quarterback-starved-jets-make-right-move-by-trading-up "I believe the Jets' top three are Sam Darnold, Josh Allen and Josh Rosen, in no particular order. That's based on conversations with personnel people around the league. The early sense is that the Jets don't rate Baker Mayfield in that upper-echelon category. It's worth noting that Maccagnan left the Jets' free-agency war room in recent days to attend the Rosen and Mayfield pro days. It was a final look-see before he made this trade." Mogglez: "To make a very long story short they're incredibly high on all of the top 4 with Rosen and Darnold at the very top, Mayfield and Allen just below, in that order. However, Baker Mayfield is about to make our top 2 (Rosen, Darnold) a top 3 if he does well in the private meeting/workout we set up with him. He was incredibly impressive when we met with him for over 4 hours at the Senior Bowl, and even more so at the Combine. Football IQ is off the charts. Allen isn't dumb by any means. In fact, I heard he tested better than expected on the white board. However, he's just a little behind the other 3 in that regard. Obviously, where he makes up for this is his measurables and his arm that no one else comes close to." Its very likely Darnold and Rosen will be 1-2 Macaggnon gave up a lot to get one of the 2nd tiered QB's Mogglez makes more sense for the jets to give up so much draft collateral to move to 3. They must be sold on 3 of them. And when is cimini right about this stuff anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: Giants are either taking him or trading him to someone that will. Jets are getting Josh Allen or Mayfield How do you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 The Jets leaving Rosen on the board to take Allen would be take-to-the-streets type sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: Mogglez makes more sense for the jets to give up so much draft collateral to move to 3. They must be sold on 3 of them. And when is cimini right about this stuff anyway? Give me a break, Mogglez has been giving us info on the Jets thoughts about QB's all year. I don't care what Cimini says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, KRL said: Give me a break, Mogglez has been giving us info on the Jets thoughts about QB's all year. I don't care what Cimini says I'm agreeing with mogglez. Am i missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 You guys can’t do math. Having the third pick, knowing the Giants don’t need a QB = getting 1 of the top 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The Jets leaving Rosen on the board to take Allen would be take-to-the-streets type sh*t. What time shall we meet at Florham Park if this happens, I will bring my little friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 All we need is Barkley to go top 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I like Mogglez list better; Rosen, Mayfield and Darnold - almost glad the decision is not Mac's, let the chips fall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I don't believe the NYG are taking a QB at #2, their free agent moves indicate that they think 2017 was an aberration. And all they need are a few tweaks to be a playoff team again therefore they are going to want an impact player (Barkley, Nelson, Chubb) not someone sitting behind Manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: You guys can’t do math. Having the third pick, knowing the Giants don’t need a QB = getting 1 of the top 2. Barkley going top 2 would be a coup for us. Huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Rich Cimini has a Mogglez FatHead in his bedroom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: I'm agreeing with mogglez. Am i missing something? No argument from me, I agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, sourceworx said: Barkley going top 2 would be a coup for us. Huge. Yup. This trade = Mac probably inquired with Giants, they are sold on using puck for Barkley or the OG. Calculated risk = only 2 QBs get picked in top 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: You guys can’t do math. Having the third pick, knowing the Giants don’t need a QB = getting 1 of the top 2. In what version of reality is that a certainty? And can you provide directions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: You guys can’t do math. Having the third pick, knowing the Giants don’t need a QB = getting 1 of the top 2. With SO many holes to fill I can't see the Giants trading down with say Buffalo at 12. Premium players are gone by then. That's why I liked us sitting at 6. Obviously the Colts did too. Trading from #3 to #6 isn't a bad move. The Colts can still pick up a premier player. At #12....not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, CTM said: In what version of reality is that a certainty? And can you provide directions Don’t be foolish, nothing is a certainty. It’s a scenario I think is noteworthy, that’s all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Yup. This trade = Mac probably inquired with Giants, they are sold on using puck for Barkley or the OG. Calculated risk = only 2 QBs get picked in top 3. Oh? The version where the giants answered Macs inquiry honestly and won't change thier mind in the next month and also won't trade out. Got it Can I have some of the glue you're sniffing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: Its very likely Darnold and Rosen will be 1-2 Macaggnon gave up a lot to get one of the 2nd tiered QB's Giants aren't taking the most pro-ready QB when they still want 2 years of Eli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Thai Jet said: With SO many holes to fill I can't see the Giants trading down with say Buffalo at 12. Premium players are gone by then. That's why I liked us sitting at 6. Obviously the Colts did too. Trading from #3 to #6 isn't a bad move. The Colts can still pick up a premier player. At #12....not so much. Fair concern, maybe Giants make the cost prohibitive. We’d know their cost for us if we talk to them first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I've also seen that we contacted the Giants, and Browns, and they weren't keen on a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, CTM said: Oh? The version where the giants answered Macs inquiry honestly and won't change thier mind in the next month. Can I have some of the glue you're sniffing? I’m not sure it could overpower the fine aroma of patchouli and dirty laundry that you’re used to, but sure... have at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Grandy said: Giants aren't taking the most pro-ready QB when they still want 2 years of Eli. I'm thinking and hoping you're right. Chubb or Barkley . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Barkley or the OG. Calculated risk = only 2 QBs get picked in top 3. Hoping the smart team ahead of us does the dumb thing isn't a calculated risk. The wisdom of crowds is catching up to common sense quick on Nelson btw. He's getting mocked outside of the top ten as often as not over the past week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: Yup. This trade = Mac probably inquired with Giants, they are sold on using puck for Barkley or the OG. Calculated risk = only 2 QBs get picked in top 3. To me it means they are comfortable with Mayfield if Darnold and Rosen are gone. The trade ironically took place after Mac went to Rosen and Mayfield's pro days. In my opinion, Mayfield is the consolation prize if Rosen isn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Don’t be foolish, nothing is a certainty. It’s a scenario I think is noteworthy, that’s all. Of course it' possible, I'm just not sure it's likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: Hoping the smart team ahead of us does the dumb thing isn't a calculated risk. The wisdom of crowds is catching up to common sense quick on Nelson btw. He's getting mocked outside of the top ten as often as not over the past week or so. Fair point. 1 minute ago, CTM said: Of course it' possible, I'm just not sure it's likely. May not be. Doesn’t prohibit it from being a discussion point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: I'm thinking and hoping you're right. Chubb or Barkley . That would would be a disaster. You're doing this for a QB or not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, sourceworx said: To me it means they are comfortable with Mayfield if Darnold and Rosen are gone. The trade ironically took place after Mac went to Rosen and Mayfield's pro days. In my opinion, Mayfield is the consolation prize if Rosen isn't there. Let's not forget Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Bugg said: That would would be a disaster. You're doing this for a QB or not at all. I think he's talking about who the Giants pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, sourceworx said: To me it means they are comfortable with Mayfield if Darnold and Rosen are gone. The trade ironically took place after Mac went to Rosen and Mayfield's pro days. In my opinion, Mayfield is the consolation prize if Rosen isn't there. To me it means they didn't want the Bills to get ahead of them and they are hoping the Giants take the RB. Ultimately however I think it's clear that the top priority was the gaurentee of getting A QB at 3 over the risk of getting no QB at 6. 4D chess on Macs part for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bugg said: That would would be a disaster. You're doing this for a QB or not at all. You read it wrong. We were talking NYG picks. Giants take Chubb or Barkley. We didn't move up to #3 for anything but a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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