Beerfish Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 It literally should not matter if there is a 'viable' head coach on the team. Bowles is not viable and can only do more damage. Hell the browns have their Rb coach suddenly be the play caller and they look really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, flgreen said: Read an article earlier this year that said the Jets had the longest verbiage in their play calling then any team in the league. up to 17 words. Probably has contributed to time outs, and delay of game calls. Totally new play books are a real problem for young QB's. if it's a long time vet, no big deal. For a young guy it's major. Love how good OCs write game plans to fit their QBs capabilities and ours (e.g., Scotty, Bates) keep trying to stuff ten pounds of dookie into a five pound bag. 48 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: Bowles is screwed. If he fires Bates, that’s his 100th OC change, and a bad look on him. He’s for sure isn’t gonna fire Rodgers. So he’s stuck. Only way out is it to change his philosophy and change starting line ups. So in other words. Why are we waiting with this? Let’s just move on. Nothing is gonna magically happen over the bye week. Beg to differ he will fire Rogers when he makes it through today still with a job—albeit likely with soft landing referencing health. As I’ve said before that’s his Siegfried Line last ditch scapegoat and he will surely knife his bud in a last ditch effort to save himself. I mean really how can you be taken seriously ever again if you keep a DC just torched by Matt Barkley at home? Someone should DNA test rogers might be a long-lost Cousin of Bowles or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I don't think there is a viable interm HC on our staff which may be why we wait til the end of the season. They'll fire everyone at once. Enough with that crap excuse , we don't have a viable HC as it stands now so what difference does it make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 27 minutes ago, jgb said: Bowles purposefully surrounded himself with the most bottom barrel coaching staff the NFL has ever seen to protect himself from the ignominy of a mid-season firing. Johnsons being played like fiddles. I would literally fire Bowles and hire the local high school coach as interim in a made-for-TV move—the ultimate slap to Bowles’ face—just as a signal that this kind of bush league arse covering won’t be tolerated. He can’t be allowed to benefit from stuffing his staff with morons. It’s a huge middle finger to ownership. No respect if they let Bowles get away with it. None. You have to love the conspiracy theories around here. Yes, it makes total sense that Bowles has made years worth of deliberate decisions to purposefully fail at his job by opting to make sure he had absolutely no support on his staff. Obviously it was all a long-term plan to get himself a few more weeks of work, as that clearly is a far bigger payoff than, you know, actually trying to have any success at his job. That certainly seems like a more likely situation than Bowles simply being bad at his job, and that carrying over to his evaluation of others as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Have not read all 5 pages so not sure if anyone has said this. My understanding is Mr. Johnson was escorted out of MetLife by security he may need to double that security team after the next home loss. Guessing things will get real ugly in the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 It doesn’t make a difference at this point. This is year 2 of a rebuild for a regime that came in 2 years prior to that, that was the first mistake right there, and now fans are ready to move on from Mac and Bowles, a new regime will come in, retool get competitive quickly, it fizzles quickly rinse and repeat. Timing is always an issue with this organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Enough with that crap excuse , we don't have a viable HC as it stands now so what difference does it make. Agree, we don't know if one of the other coaches is viable as a HC until they get a chance, we know bowles and rodgers are terrible and bates has shown nothing in 10 games so nothing to lose but fans of this crappy team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Nothing to worry about folks. Todd will have them ready for the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: You have to love the conspiracy theories around here. Yes, it makes total sense that Bowles has made years worth of deliberate decisions to purposefully fail at his job by opting to make sure he had absolutely no support on his staff. Obviously it was all a long-term plan to get himself a few more weeks of work, as that clearly is a far bigger payoff than, you know, actually trying to have any success at his job. That certainly seems like a more likely situation than Bowles simply being bad at his job, and that carrying over to his evaluation of others as well. I am sick of you and other members of the Illuminati coming here and trying to discredit my posts (by the way your version is worse: that he sucks so bad he either doesn’t know what a good coach looks like or no good ones want to work for him. At least my version attributes some amount of cleverness to the man) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, Bocajetfan said: Have not read all 5 pages so not sure if anyone has said this. My understanding is Mr. Johnson was escorted out of MetLife by security he may need to double that security team after the next home loss. Guessing things will get real ugly in the foreseeable future. First im hearing this and things are only going to get uglier at the stadium after losses like this one, some people paid big money for the seats they sitting in watching this crap show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 ESPN Todd Bowles should worry about his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: First im hearing this and things are only going to get uglier at the stadium after losses like this one, some people paid big money for the seats they sitting in watching this shytshow. In another thread yesterday I believe Cimini tweeted that Johnson was escorted out by security and when he went bye reporters would only say he would have no comment. Fan reaction to the team in the butt fumble game as the team entered the tunnel may look like a home coming compared to what may be coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Bocajetfan said: In another thread yesterday I believe Cimini tweeted that Johnson was escorted out by security and when he went bye reporters would only say he would have no comment. Fan reaction to the team in the butt fumble game as the team entered the tunnel may look like a home coming compared to what may be coming. yesterday was as good as it gets for 6 more games - just hope Sam does not get killed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Probably a wise move. Goal #1 should be to keep things stable for Darnold. Mid season coaching changes are anything but stable. Smart call by Chris Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 We aren’t winning another game this season. After we go 3-13 it will be impossible to argue Bowles isn’t as bad or worse than Dick Kotite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Mike135 said: Probably a wise move. Goal #1 should be to keep things stable for Darnold. Mid season coaching changes are anything but stable. Smart call by Chris Johnson. Mike135 did you watch yesterdays game? This loss could be one of the worst in NY Jets history. Matt Barkley off the street. COME ON MAN Todd Bowles is doing more damage and scarring to this organization by remaining the HC. The players have all quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mike135 said: Probably a wise move. Goal #1 should be to keep things stable for Darnold. Mid season coaching changes are anything but stable. Smart call by Chris Johnson. I hope I'm missing some sarcasm here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Mike135 did you watch yesterdays game? This loss could be one of the worst in NY Jets history. Matt Barkley off the street. COME ON MAN Todd Bowles is doing more damage and scarring to this organization by remaining the HC. The players have all quit. 2 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: I hope I'm missing some sarcasm here. If there was some great option to turn to, then maybe. However I think Bowles probably will have this team playing well in at least a couple more games this season. Up and down along the way. Hell, imagine if they are healthy in two weeks and beat the Pats. Bowles could save his job right there. JoeWilly, yup I saw it. The whole team didn't play. They probably thought just like the fans did. Without Sam playing, there's no point to this season. A failure on the coaches and players for sure, but they'll be ready in two weeks. Swapping coaches now does no good whatsoever. If that sort of effort continues though, then sure fire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mike135 said: Bowles could save his job right there. No way in heck is Todd Bowles saving his job he's 23-35 as the HC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: No way in heck is Todd Bowles saving his job he's 23-35 as the HC Ultimately I think he'll be judged on how Sam looks at the end of the season. These week-to-week reactions/headlines won't mean much come January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Bleedin Green said: You have to love the conspiracy theories around here. Yes, it makes total sense that Bowles has made years worth of deliberate decisions to purposefully fail at his job by opting to make sure he had absolutely no support on his staff. Obviously it was all a long-term plan to get himself a few more weeks of work, as that clearly is a far bigger payoff than, you know, actually trying to have any success at his job. That certainly seems like a more likely situation than Bowles simply being bad at his job, and that carrying over to his evaluation of others as well. What's worse, he CAN'T get a good staff, or he WON'T get a good staff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, Mike135 said: Ultimately I think he'll be judged on how Sam looks at the end of the season. These week-to-week reactions/headlines won't mean much come January. No he wont be judged on how Sam Darnold looks at the end of the season thats ridiculous. He will be judged by the way the entire team looks. The Johnson brothers as dumb as they are want to see improvements in 4 years we haven't seen any improvements. Todd Bowles is a goner and I hope Mike Maccagnan is fired along with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: No he wont be judged on how Sam Darnold looks at the end of the season thats ridiculous. He will be judged by the way the entire team looks. The Johnson brothers as dumb as they are want to see improvements in 4 years we haven't seen any improvements. Todd Bowles is a goner and I hope Mike Maccagnan is fired along with him. Well it looks like you'll get your way. I'm just saying it's entirely possible he still keeps his job. Still a long way to go this season. Macc I'd say is still likely to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 50 minutes ago, Mike135 said: Probably a wise move. Goal #1 should be to keep things stable for Darnold. Mid season coaching changes are anything but stable. Smart call by Chris Johnson. Yeah better to keep a coach who is ruining multiple players than to remover him before he finishes his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Bleedin Green said: You have to love the conspiracy theories around here. Yes, it makes total sense that Bowles has made years worth of deliberate decisions to purposefully fail at his job by opting to make sure he had absolutely no support on his staff. Obviously it was all a long-term plan to get himself a few more weeks of work, as that clearly is a far bigger payoff than, you know, actually trying to have any success at his job. That certainly seems like a more likely situation than Bowles simply being bad at his job, and that carrying over to his evaluation of others as well. Come on now. No conspiracy theory needed. Fact Bowles coaching staff has not one hot coach on it, and one quality LB coach at best and all of that was as a result of decisions Bowles made, not the Russians, not UFOs or Aliens from Mars and hence he is responsible for the lack of quality coaching depth on the team. He is responsible that is why he gets checks from the Jets as HC Contrast that with winning teams and how many coaches may be plumed from them and it is a joke. Say Bowles were winning and he got sick think who steps into his shoes from his staff? Answer = no one! Folks aren’t making it up, this is a below average coaching staff and conspiracies aren’t need to reveal this fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lot K Tailgaters Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 The economy is so good even Todd Bowles has a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 28 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: Come on now. No conspiracy theory needed. Fact Bowles coaching staff has not one hot coach on it, and one quality LB coach at best and all of that was as a result of decisions Bowles made, not the Russians, not UFOs or Aliens from Mars and hence he is responsible for the lack of quality coaching depth on the team. He is responsible that is why he gets checks from the Jets as HC Contrast that with winning teams and how many coaches may be plumed from them and it is a joke. Say Bowles were winning and he got sick think who steps into his shoes from his staff? Answer = no one! Folks aren’t making it up, this is a below average coaching staff and conspiracies aren’t need to reveal this fact. His coaching staff does in fact suck. What is a major conspiracy theory is to say Bowles intentionally hired a terrible coaching staff as part of a 4-year plan to not get himself fired on this particular week, due solely to a lack of candidates to serve as interim HC, as some are claiming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Augustiniak said: how can you say this when week after week he has blamed their losses on lack of execution? i'm not claiming to know all that goes on in jet land but it seems like bowles has never called out any players and the fact that they continue to make stupid mistakes means he's not calling them out as a coach either. these guys know better than to go offsides multiple times in a game. they know not to commit stupid holding calls or pass interference penalties. they know they're supposed to turn there heads and make a play for the ball. they know they're supposed to catch balls in bounds, and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 All this is telling me is Bowles and Macc have a chance to stay once the end of the season comes. If Bowles met with ownership like the reports said yesterday, they obviously gave him a mandate for the rest of the season. They don't decide to fire you now and actually keep you on after a meeting. This should worry people because let's say Bowles wins the next 5 of 6 games. Highly unlikely but possible in a freak scenario. Bowles will be staying if the Jets go 8-8. They should've just did it today if they are going to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, rangerous said: i'm not claiming to know all that goes on in jet land but it seems like bowles has never called out any players and the fact that they continue to make stupid mistakes means he's not calling them out as a coach either. these guys know better than to go offsides multiple times in a game. they know not to commit stupid holding calls or pass interference penalties. they know they're supposed to turn there heads and make a play for the ball. they know they're supposed to catch balls in bounds, and so on. Todd Bowles coaches them he disciplines them the players are a product of the environment he has created here. He is not a HC in the NFL he never was and never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 It would be hard to come into work everyday and give 100% effort in this type of climate. I dont think I could do it. I think I'd just resign. Unless, your job is safe and everyone else is just wasting their breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Ever wonder what happened with Mo Wilk here interesting isn't it he went from a pretty decent DL to a JAG under HC Todd Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 5 hours ago, BallinPB said: For the fans this is the best thing to do. For the coaches and players i don’t think so. It will demoralize them in the middle of the season even more than they are now. Bowles and MAcc dug their own graves. Let them bury themselves now. What? The GM? We're worried about demoralizing a team that won't win anymore games anyway? The GM needs to be replaced because the work needs to be done now to prepare for the offseason. Namely finding a coach, evaulating the roster and being ready for the draft. This can't wait until March. Feelings are not a consideration here. We need to win football games for a god damn change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Ever wonder what happened with Mo Wilk here interesting isn't it he went from a pretty decent DL to a JAG under HC Todd Bowles. To be fair Mo had 12 sacks Bowles first year here which was his career high. He fell off when the contract came the next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 minute ago, BallinPB said: To be fair Mo had 12 sacks Bowles first year here which was his career high. He fell off when the contract came the next year. I think something else happened and I think it involves Todd Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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