joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, SpartanJet said: If the Jets hire Rhule it tells me Mac has a lot more say than we think, and he is scared to hire a top notch coach. Is Macc clueless, Yeah probably. But to say he is scared to hire a top notch coach is a reach, at best. If THIS Coach does not win, MacCagnan is gone. Period. He knows that. He cannot possibly survive another coaching disaster. If Rhule is hired, lay it at the feet of Chris Johnson, it would have been his call. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: You mean from 1-11 to 7-6? You think its should have been more? How about Temple? From 2-10 to 10-3. Hes can coach apparently. Not saying hes the next great HC but theres no real reason to think he cant coach. Then again most dont want Gase or McCarthy so whats the point Just before the scandal Baylor was 32-7, they were 7-6 the year of and 1-11 Rhules first year. Getting them back to 7-6 for a single season after a single 1 win season isn't turning them around, it's maybe starting the job or preventing them from completely collapsing, but it's not turning them around the way I'd define it. And Temple was 9-4 2 years before Rhule got there. They were 2-10 his first year. He "turned them around" from his own poor start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 McCarthy would still be my #1 target, but I’m amazed by the amount of people who outright despise Rhule. Even constantly harping on his religion. And these same people say they want McCarthy coupled with some sort of dynamic offense. McCarthy was mentored by the likes of Marty Schottenheimer and Paul f*cking Hackett. I wouldn’t exactly consider those guys “innovative” offensive minds. And neither is McCarthy, frankly. The biggest reason people want McCarthy is because they want to believe that he was hugely responsible for Aaron Rodgers’ development. That’s pretty much it. I’d still like to have him, but Rhule is my #2 guy so I’m not going to burn the Jets for going in that direction. Now if they turn around and hire someone like Jim Caldwell, then yeah, break out the goddamn pitchforks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, varjet said: The fact that Arizona would hire KK makes the Rhule hire less ridiculous. No. At least Ryan Gosling was offensive minded. Now we have to hope Rhule, with no NFL connections, can bring in the right staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedGreen92 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Rhule would be a better hire than almost anyone else besides monken. Most of you have no idea what you’re talking about mccarthy is the only guy I don’t want he would crash and burn here within two seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 hours ago, CTM said: It's the only thing that makes sense. You think a guy like CJ with a losing franchise wouldn't jump at the chance to hire a guy with McCarthy's pedigree unless someone who has his ear and a claim to be an NFL guy is dissuading him? I expect mind numbingly stupid takes from 80 but when did you lose 40 IQ points? Your whacked out theory is that Mac is manipulating CJ to save his job, right? What hire is more dangerous for him? A complete wild card with very limited NFL experience or the most qualified HC on the market? You don't think if the Jets hire Ruhle and fail the next 2 years that Macc will get booted out of here faster than Crusher can down a Double Whopper? Holy moly with the dumb takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MehlFreeman Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, JetsYanks13 said: 1. I didn’t like the Bowles hire 2. What makes Rhule a better HC than McCarthy? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I wanted Quinn, who was Jets first choice but they settled for Bowles. This time they don't have to settle. Rhule is settling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Just now, Untouchable said: McCarthy would still be my #1 target, but I’m amazed by the amount of people who outright despise Rhule. Even constantly harping on his religion. And these same people say they want McCarthy coupled with some sort of dynamic offense. McCarthy was mentored by the likes of Marty Schottenheimer and Paul f*cking Hackett. I wouldn’t exactly consider those guys “innovative” offensive minds. And neither is McCarthy, frankly. The biggest reason people want McCarthy is because they want to believe that he was hugely responsible for Aaron Rodgers’ development. That’s pretty much it. I’d still like to have him, but Rhule is my #2 guy so I’m not going to burn the Jets for going in that direction. Now if they turn around and hire someone like Jim Caldwell, then yeah, break out the goddamn pitchforks. As a fellow fan who also has McCarthy as their #1 and Rhule as their #2 choice, I’m pretty calm right now. I just want to know who it is lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Good for you, youve got it all figured out. Then you had to go over the edge with the " There are a million coaches that have done the same thing in college. " nonsense No shlt, really, theres a bigger chance of failure than success with a HC hire? Really? Wow, do you also see dead people? We all know this. And the last line is the best. One, Woody isnt a part of the hire. Two, how does hiring Ruhl line his pockets? LOL, this is the lamest line of thinking ever. 635 mil, on a team, almost 1 bil on his half of the stadium, just under 100 mil for a practice facility, theyre trying to save peanuts in relationship to these costs. Sorry, you bit it alright Let's repeat this conversation in 3 years when they make the wrong decision again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: Direct Quote from Matt Rhule we are hiring are hiring our 6th straight defensive head coach! "We're going to run inside zone, outside zone, power, counter and throw in some RPOs. As a defensive guy, I think that's an illegal thing, but if you can do it, I'm going to do it," Rhule said. "I could run the triple option and those numbers would all still be my things that I want to reach. That sort of formula, however we get to it, we get to it." http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/243446868/matt-rhule-baylor-bears-changes-offense If this is true, it is a very scary statement. VERY SCARY. Ugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BleedGreen92 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Hopefully all these no nothing pricks will stop watching once Rhule is the guy we don’t need you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Pac said: I expect mind numbingly stupid takes from 80 but when did you lose 40 IQ points? Your whacked out theory is that Mac is manipulating CJ to save his job, right? What hire is more dangerous for him? A complete wild card with very limited NFL experience or the most qualified HC on the market? You don't think if the Jets hire Ruhle and fail the next 2 years that Macc will get booted out of here faster than Crusher downs a Double Whopper? Holy moly with the dumb takes. I think it's far more likely that Mac loses power and influence the minute McCarthy walks in the door and is one questionable offseason or poor season away from getting the boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedGreen92 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Just now, Grandy said: He’s the guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Jet Life said: As a fellow fan who also has McCarthy as their #1 and Rhule as their #2 choice, I’m pretty calm right now. I just want to know who it is lol Same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Grandy said: Share your location Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Grandy said: I hate this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, BleedGreen92 said: Hopefully all these no nothing pricks will stop watching once Rhule is the guy we don’t need you know-nothing, we are know-nothing pricks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, BleedGreen92 said: Rhule would be a better hire than almost anyone else besides monken. Most of you have no idea what you’re talking about mccarthy is the only guy I don’t want he would crash and burn here within two seasons This guy right here^ ... Okay explain to me what makes Rhule an attractive NFL Head Coach without using the words “turned around Baylor”. Tell me how he benefits Sam Darnold , his progression or the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, CTM said: I think it's far more likely that Mac loses power and influence the minute McCarthy walks in the door and is one questionable offseason or poor season away from getting the boot. There are numerous articles and video where McCarthy states in no uncertain terms that he does not want personnel power but some of you guys simply refuse to believe it. You don't think this was covered in the interview? Rhule would be the far more dangerous hire for Macc because he'd ostensibly be saying it's all on him to make it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Grandy said: I hate this This HC hunt thing isn’t even fun anymore. This whole thing has managed to piss everyone off in under 2 days. I’m so unnecessarily confused..unnecessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usanyj Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Grandy said: I hate this These are two very different things... in one she talks to him and in another she sees him at a stop light, maybe, it could’ve been her dad, or the guy that forced her to do a walk of shame... but pretty sure it was Rhule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 This has gotten so boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Pac said: There are numerous articles and video where McCarthy states in no uncertain terms that he does not want personnel power but some of you guys simply refuse to believe it. You don't think this was covered in the interview? Rhule is the far more dangerous hire for Macc because he is ostensibly saying it's all on him to make it work. Or, he'll say in 2 years when it doesn't work that Rhule was the problem just like Bowles. And Mac is probably confident enough to believe he can single handily right the ship, it's called Dunning Kruger effect At the end of the day I just don't understand how an organization that is this dysfunctional and under performing wouldn't take the bird in hand as the best bet to stabilize the ship. I can't imagine CJ is pushing for Rhule, he, like me, probably didn't know who Rhule was 2 weeks ago so where's it coming from if not Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu79 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 It's remarkable how polarized this Jets search has become. McCarthy and Rhule each have passionate supporters and detractors. I am fine with either and just hope whoever is hired people get over themselves and supposition over how they got hired and give them a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Just now, usanyj said: These are two very different things... in one she talks to him and in another she sees him at a stop light, maybe, it could’ve been her dad, or the guy that forced her to do a walk of shame... but pretty sure it was Rhule She makes Incarcerated Bob look like Walter Chronkite. Earlier people were posting tweets from Napolean Dynamite Jr as if he was some kind of inside source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcJet Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Grandy said: I hate this This happens tomorrow? What is this, Minority Report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usanyj Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Pac said: She makes Incarcerated Bob look like Walter Chronkite. Earlier people were posting tweets from Napolean Dynamite Jr as if he was some kind of inside source. It’s all great stuff... we have all been attached to this like a novella... one report says he’s in Florham park, meeting with Darnold, who has posted video of him at the beach in California on Instagram, one other report says he was seen at a stop light in Waco. Lol I’m actually beginning to laugh at this at this point. Just resolve it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Nobody knows anything -- excpet maybe for a select few in Florham Park. This is the guy who reported that he heard Rhule was as the Jet facility earlier today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu79 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, CTM said: Or, he'll say in 2 years when it doesn't work that Rhule was the problem just like Bowles. At the end of the day I just don't understand how an organization that is this dysfunctional and under performing wouldn't take the bird in hand as the best bet to stabilize the ship. I can't imagine CJ is pushing for Rhule, he, like me, probably didn't know who Rhule was 2 weeks ago so where's it coming from if not Mac. IF that happens (which we don't know yet), will likely be because they didn't think MM was a bird in hand. And instead felt like a ton of people here (not me) that he was dated, stubborn and would struggle with adjustments like Bowles (one of the big criticisms of his approach). I think it's weird because he fits their brief of experience developing QBs (Rodgers, Gannon, Hasselbach). However, if they have come to feel - as many people in the media and twittersphere do - that Rhule is a uniquely gifted leader with special potential, I can live with it. Don't think this will be decided on wages or cost or Mac's prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedGreen92 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Either way we’re gonna lose some fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu79 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, BleedGreen92 said: Either way we’re gonna lose some fans Doubt it. Miserable people love a reason to complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, CTM said: Or, he'll say in 2 years when it doesn't work that Rhule was the problem just like Bowles. And Mac is probably confident enough to believe he can single handily right the ship, it's called Dunning Kruger effect At the end of the day I just don't understand how an organization that is this dysfunctional and under performing wouldn't take the bird in hand as the best bet to stabilize the ship. I can't imagine CJ is pushing for Rhule, he, like me, probably didn't know who Rhule was 2 weeks ago so where's it coming from if not Mac. Yeah the guy who narrowly survived the purge wants to go through this again 2 years from now. Of Rhule and McCarthy I agree McCarthy is the better option but we don't know what was said in the interviews. Did McCarthy say he's not interested in hiring a different OC and wants Lurch Philbin and Macadoo-doo? Did he say that he refuses to tweak his philosophy on offense to breathe life into it? We don't know. Hell in a couple hours McCarthy could be named the HC and this 17 page abomination of a thread will look pretty silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 hours ago, ryu79 said: IF that happens (which we don't know yet), will likely be because they didn't think MM was a bird in hand. And instead felt like a ton of people here (not me) that he was dated, stubborn and would struggle with adjustments like Bowles (one of the big criticisms of his approach). I think it's weird because he fits their brief of experience developing QBs (Rodgers, Gannon, Hasselbach). However, if they have come to feel - as many people in the media and twittersphere do - that Rhule is a uniquely gifted leader with special potential, I can live with it. Don't think this will be decided on wages or cost or Mac's prospects. I just can't see CJ coming to that conclusion and if he did what he would even base that on if not for it emanating from Macs yellow toothed coffee scented belch box. Nor do I have any confidence in either of these goons making the right choice at all. So if they decide to get creative and make the out of left field pick like Rhule that's about as much of a kiss of death as I can imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, BleedGreen92 said: Either way we’re gonna lose some fans Real fans DON'T LEAVE ! They just get pissed off and say a lot of stupid sh!t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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