Philc1 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 So far it’s been a good offseason. I like all the moves the jets have made. Barr did us a favor. I was opposed to signing Bell but his contract is reasonable. Mosely is the leader on defense we haven’t had since the Rex days. Just one thing left: EDGE and the jets need two edge rushers not just one. If you want to setup Bosa or Allen for success line them up opposite this guy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lon chaney Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I'm Lon Chaney, and I endorse this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Smith Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Depends when his mixtape drops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static14 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I haven’t seen word the camps are even talking. I’m all for it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 More than one thing remains we still need 2 corners and a center pretty badSent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: More than one thing remains we still need 2 corners and a center pretty bad Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Harrison is starting at Center next season Roby and Desir both signed If we sign Houston and draft Allen our pass rush would be so good we could make mediocre corners look good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I hope we sign him tonight..that probably won’t happen so hopefully tomorrow. This would make the sting go away if we can get Houston on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 What are Houston priorities? Money, winning or location? I know this is a guy the Pats would target to not lose a compensatory pick. His play has definitely fallen off so don't be stuck on the name brand. I'm ok with giving him two years. Is $10 mil good enough? Since we sre the Jets $11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Harrison is starting at Center next season Roby and Desir both signed If we sign Houston and draft Allen our pass rush would be so good we could make mediocre corners look good ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 This is a 14 million dollar/year investment we are talking about here. For a 30 year old edge rusher who isn't getting better. Still has plenty left in the tank, but the cost seems prohibitive. Spending this kind of money at this juncture in free agency would take a high ticket slot, corner, receiver and offensive lineman out of the loop. We currently have Hewitt, Luvu, Lee, and Jenkins to use in those capacities for blitzing schemes. And the safeties. Yes, I know that Jenkins plays the other side, and those choices aren't the "sexy name" that Houston brings. Williams is known for bringing pressure from everywhere with everybody, that's why I mention this. I like him and would love to have him here, but this might be a little bit of overkill, considering the contingent of fans here who want edge rush in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 The point you make about needing two edge rushers is spot on and points to Macc’s biggest failure this offseason IMO. Losing Barr stung but it was made worse by both Smiths agreeing with the Packers. Thought the Jets should’ve gone after Barr and one of those two (ideally ZaDarius). Would’ve made Barr backing out sting a little less. Houston would be good, Ansah would be fine too. Would like one or the other, Barrett from Denver, and a draft pick somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 hopefully asap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: Harrison is starting at Center next season Roby and Desir both signed If we sign Houston and draft Allen our pass rush would be so good we could make mediocre corners look good Ok, enough! That's two consecutive positive posts in one thread. Who is this, and what have you done to Phil?? No way this is him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 43 minutes ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said: This is a 14 million dollar/year investment we are talking about here. For a 30 year old edge rusher who isn't getting better. Still has plenty left in the tank, but the cost seems prohibitive. Spending this kind of money at this juncture in free agency would take a high ticket slot, corner, receiver and offensive lineman out of the loop. We currently have Hewitt, Luvu, Lee, and Jenkins to use in those capacities for blitzing schemes. And the safeties. Yes, I know that Jenkins plays the other side, and those choices aren't the "sexy name" that Houston brings. Williams is known for bringing pressure from everywhere with everybody, that's why I mention this. I like him and would love to have him here, but this might be a little bit of overkill, considering the contingent of fans here who want edge rush in the draft. Live a little Joe! As exciting as Lee, Luvu and Jenkins sound, I'd spring for Houston. Hell, then I'd take Allen at 3 after that. Word on the street is we're allowed to have two guys that rush the passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, 14 in Green said: Live a little Joe! As exciting as Lee, Luvu and Jenkins sound, I'd spring for Houston. Hell, then I'd take Allen at 3 after that. Word on the street is we're allowed to have two guys that rush the passer. If they don't take Q Williams,[ who I want, but they won't take, or who won't be there], they will have Bosa or Allen there for them. Would like to trade back, but that won't happen either, unless someone comes up for Haskins. Giants will wait for him at #6, so no trade there. I see Houston as overkill, especially if you draft and edge rusher, the money is best spent elsewhere at this point. A friend of mine on another thread was lamenting about the holes that need filling. I think he's right. The money spent on Houston could be well spent on filling three of those holes, don't you think, friend?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheastadiumjetfan Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Ink Houston tmr before Bears take him plus Draft DE-Bosa /J Allen Cmon Macc-make it happen!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said: If they don't take Q Williams,[ who I want, but they won't take, or who won't be there], they will have Bosa or Allen there for them. Would like to trade back, but that won't happen either, unless someone comes up for Haskins. Giants will wait for him at #6, so no trade there. I see Houston as overkill, especially if you draft and edge rusher, the money is best spent elsewhere at this point. A friend of mine on another thread was lamenting about the holes that need filling. I think he's right. The money spent on Houston could be well spent on filling three of those holes, don't you think, friend?? You have smart friends. I think this is such a priority position nowadays, (god, I almost said “in today’s NFL”.) that yes, in all seriousness I’d get at least two if I could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu79 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Seriously. Pay this man and another OLB so we can trade back and really upgrade the team on Draft night (or sign some OLs and stay put for an OLB). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 8 hours ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said: This is a 14 million dollar/year investment we are talking about here. For a 30 year old edge rusher who isn't getting better. Still has plenty left in the tank, but the cost seems prohibitive. Spending this kind of money at this juncture in free agency would take a high ticket slot, corner, receiver and offensive lineman out of the loop. We currently have Hewitt, Luvu, Lee, and Jenkins to use in those capacities for blitzing schemes. And the safeties. Yes, I know that Jenkins plays the other side, and those choices aren't the "sexy name" that Houston brings. Williams is known for bringing pressure from everywhere with everybody, that's why I mention this. I like him and would love to have him here, but this might be a little bit of overkill, considering the contingent of fans here who want edge rush in the draft. 14 is too much for a part timer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 10 hours ago, Philc1 said: So far it’s been a good offseason. I like all the moves the jets have made. Barr did us a favor. I was opposed to signing Bell but his contract is reasonable. Mosely is the leader on defense we haven’t had since the Rex days. Just one thing left: EDGE and the jets need two edge rushers not just one. If you want to setup Bosa or Allen for success line them up opposite this guy: Two edge rushers. Good post. Barr at UCLA played alot as a DE. I think Williams would have have used him that way, alot. What about the other side in a 4-3. So yea, to play a 4-3 in Williams defense, we need two ends, that are always attacking up field. Thats why they paid Mosley all that money. Williams wants to run a 4-3 alot and Mosley is the perfect MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, jack48 said: 14 is too much for a part timer not when you have Sam and Adams on rookie deals for the next 3 years...throw 2 years at Houston and call it a day. Do you think we'd pay Mosley 17m if we didnt have rookie deals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 9 hours ago, Philc1 said: Harrison is starting at Center next season Roby and Desir both signed If we sign Houston and draft Allen our pass rush would be so good we could make mediocre corners look good Sutton or Winters will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 9 hours ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: What are Houston priorities? Money, winning or location? I know this is a guy the Pats would target to not lose a compensatory pick. His play has definitely fallen off so don't be stuck on the name brand. I'm ok with giving him two years. Is $10 mil good enough? Since we sre the Jets $11? Obviously the guy wants to win but this is also the last big contract of his career and life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, genot said: Two edge rushers. Good post. Barr at UCLA played alot as a DE. I think Williams would have have used him that way, alot. What about the other side in a 4-3. So yea, to play a 4-3 in Williams defense, we need two ends, that are always attacking up field. Thats why they paid Mosley all that money. Williams wants to run a 4-3 alot and Mosley is the perfect MLB. I still think the jets stick with 3-4 base. Allen is a natural 3-4 OLB Jets should cut Lee and promote Hewitt to starting ILB opposite CJ Mosely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Just now, Philc1 said: I still think the jets stick with 3-4 base. Allen is a natural 3-4 OLB Jets should cut Lee and promote Hewitt to starting ILB opposite CJ Mosely. It might not be Allen. You could justify the Jets taking Sweat, Ferrill, or Gary there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, genot said: It might not be Allen. You could justify the Jets taking Sweat, Ferrill, or Gary there. Sweat is even more of a OLB than Allen ferrell scares me a little I’m worried he becomes a poor man’s Shaun Ellis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, genot said: It might not be Allen. You could justify the Jets taking Sweat, Ferrill, or Gary there. no... you REALLY can't. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Just now, jetsons said: no... you REALLY can't. ? You can't. I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Watching Bosa and Houston teabag Tom Brady for 4 quarters would give me purpose in life again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I still think the jets stick with 3-4 base. Allen is a natural 3-4 OLB Jets should cut Lee and promote Hewitt to starting ILB opposite CJ Mosely. Aren’t you forgetting about our Avery Williamson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Sweat is even more of a OLB than Allen ferrell scares me a little I’m worried he becomes a poor man’s Shaun Ellis https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/montez-sweat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 4 hours ago, k-met57 said: not when you have Sam and Adams on rookie deals for the next 3 years...throw 2 years at Houston and call it a day. Do you think we'd pay Mosley 17m if we didnt have rookie deals? I actually want Houston. I think he has some tread on his tire. But I was thinking 10 or maybe 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 13 hours ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said: This is a 14 million dollar/year investment we are talking about here. For a 30 year old edge rusher who isn't getting better. Still has plenty left in the tank, but the cost seems prohibitive. Spending this kind of money at this juncture in free agency would take a high ticket slot, corner, receiver and offensive lineman out of the loop. We currently have Hewitt, Luvu, Lee, and Jenkins to use in those capacities for blitzing schemes. And the safeties. Yes, I know that Jenkins plays the other side, and those choices aren't the "sexy name" that Houston brings. Williams is known for bringing pressure from everywhere with everybody, that's why I mention this. I like him and would love to have him here, but this might be a little bit of overkill, considering the contingent of fans here who want edge rush in the draft. Barr...but that's water under the bridge.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 7:35 AM, Creepy Lurker said: Aren’t you forgetting about our Avery Williamson? No he belongs on the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 7:35 AM, Creepy Lurker said: Aren’t you forgetting about our Avery Williamson? Williamson is a cut below Mosley. Mosley finds the ball, as well. Williamson basically tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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