Warfish Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, bitonti said: you may not like him as a person Warfish but he's balling out incredible right now and it's fair to wish the Jets had some of that sirr purr magic right now Yes, he'd doing very well in Carolina so far, exceeding my expectations for him there, no question. Yes, it's fair for us to wish "we had some magic" at WR. No, it's not accurate to say "if we kept him, and paid him, we'd have that magic now". Pretty simple, really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Warfish said: Yes, he'd doing very well in Carolina so far, exceeding my expectations for him there, no question. Yes, it's fair for us to wish "we had some magic" at WR. No, it's not accurate to say "if we kept him, and paid him, we'd have that magic now". Pretty simple, really. JD is pursuing an Idzik-ian strategy where rather than seek wins and losses, and entertainment, he strives to make sure that each of his contracts is positive value. So he is essentially playing a game of trying to underpay all the time, which is hard in the NFL when you usually have to overpay for FAs. JD wins by underpaying, not by actually winning football games. Draft picks are the best for that. 2nd contracts, the worst. So we trade stars players for draft picks. From what I heard, JD was willing to pay Robby $10mm/year, but he wanted options for years 3 and 4 at the same price, in case Robby became a star. Then he underpays (which means Robby is underpaid). Robby declined. But this strategy is not consistent with a goal of winning in 2020, or giving Darnold weapons to see what he is made of. JD did make investments to protect Darnold. When those investments get hurt, and Darnold still holds onto the ball too long, that does not work. All things considered, this is a writeoff year for the Jets and JD. To me, it is all about 2021 and 2022 for JD. The Jets have to be a good, competitive team in at least 2022. If not JD will be finding a new job. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 9:06 PM, Drums said: That hurts if true This focking team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 This franchise has a long history of bailing on its own home-grown talent. Been a trend since the 90s. That said, I'm not sure he would have produced this well for us. He was just completely miscast here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Robbo was a 700 yd guy cos his QB was bottom tier... its very very obvious who is the problem, its the GWH overhyped QB. What does GWH mean ?Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Dunnie said: What does GWH mean ? Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app think boxing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Dunnie said: What does GWH mean ? Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Great White Hope (or Hype). 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Great White Hope (or Hype).Isn't that term innately racist? I am actually asking earnestly.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Isn't that term innately racist? I am actually asking earnestly. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app I think that question is beyond the scope of JN tbqh. Per Wikipedia: Great White Hope is a nickname or epithet originally applied to boxers who were billed as the hope of the white race to beat black heavyweight world boxing champion Jack Johnson, and to later white contenders who challenged against black champions. It can (and often is) used as an epithet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/great+white+hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 8 hours ago, bitonti said: So much for Robbie the Toothpick. He was held back by incompetent QB play here. Not the other way around. Good QBs make their own weaponz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 But according to this advanced analytic some nerd that doesn't actually watch games came up with, perriman is actually a far better receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, Prodigal Syndicate said: But according to this advanced analytic some nerd that doesn't actually watch games came up with, perriman is actually a far better receiver. The trainers tent is at least 20 yards from the nearest DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantherclaw Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 9/23/2020 at 7:04 AM, Doggin94it said: Anderson is running as Carolina's number two WR (behind DJ Moore) and number 3 offensive weapon. That's a good setup for him to succeed. Being the number 1 WR and focus of the passing game isn't a role he's suited for and anyone who thinks he'd be putting up the same numbers here is delusional Wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I liked Robby as a Jet, but through half a season, there’s been a lot of ink spilled for a guy with as many TDs as Pierre Desir and less than Braxton Berrios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, TeddEY said: I liked Robby as a Jet, but through half a season, there’s been a lot of ink spilled for a guy with as many TDs as Pierre Desir and less than Braxton Berrios. He's finally in a real offense. Not that Teddy is so good but Joe Brady is a great OC and should be our next head coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: He's finally in a real offense. Not that Teddy is so good but Joe Brady is a great OC and should be our next head coach. So... Better QB... Better offense... Still only one TD in half a season? Again, I liked Robby as a Jet. But, maybe a couple of games was too soon to talk about what a travesty it was that he's gone. He's yet to repeat his week 1 performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, TeddEY said: So... Better QB... Better offense... Still only one TD in half a season? Again, I liked Robby as a Jet. But, maybe a couple of games was too soon to talk about what a travesty it was that he's gone. He's yet to repeat his week 1 performance. FWIW...in this sh*t offfense, Berrios has 2.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 48 yards against the 30th ranked D in the NFL. There is tape on Matt Rhule and the Carolina O. Let's see how teams adjust and the results in the second half. The NFL is littered with guys who looked good early before teams adjusted. Carolina looked like dog sh*t last night at home on a short week against a terrible D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Biggs said: 48 yards against the 30th ranked D in the NFL. There is tape on Matt Rhule and the Carolina O. Let's see how teams adjust and the results in the second half. The NFL is littered with guys who looked good early before teams adjusted. Carolina looked like dog sh*t last night at home on a short week against a terrible D. Lolz, Jets fans dream about having WRs that can have a season like Robby is having 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: He's finally in a real offense. Not that Teddy is so good but Joe Brady is a great OC and should be our next head coach. This. Watching Bridgewater play he isn’t doing anything special. He’s throwing to his first read on well designed plays (which is usually Robby). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Lolz, Jets fans dream about having WRs that can have a season like Robby is having Indeed, where will we ever find someone who can be top 40 in YPC and amass 1 TD in a half a season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, TeddEY said: Indeed, where will we ever find someone who can be top 40 in YPC and amass 1 TD in a half a season? Robby is second in the nfl in receiving yards with a just ok QB throwing to him. But yeah continue to nitpick I heard his ypc onWR reverses is only 3.8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, TeddEY said: So... Better QB... Better offense... Still only one TD in half a season? Again, I liked Robby as a Jet. But, maybe a couple of games was too soon to talk about what a travesty it was that he's gone. He's yet to repeat his week 1 performance. I don't think anyone thinks Robby is an elite WR regardless of his numbers this year. He's just doing better in Carolina. But like I said, I think that is just a product of being a good offensive system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Robby is second in the nfl in receiving yards with a just ok QB throwing to him. But yeah continue to nitpick I heard his ypc onWR reverses is only 3.8 2nd in receiving yards having played one or two more game than everyone else. YPG he's outside top 10, and trending downwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, TeddEY said: 2nd in receiving yards having played one or two more game than everyone else. YPG he's outside top 10, and trending downwards. No he was second in receiving yards before last night’s game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: I don't think anyone thinks Robby is an elite WR regardless of his numbers this year. He's just doing better in Carolina. But like I said, I think that is just a product of being a good offensive system. I 100% agree. My point, which I imagined was obvious, is that losing him wasn't some great tragedy. We didn't let Randy Moss go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, Philc1 said: No he was second in receiving yards before last night’s game Which is still without a bye. So............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: I don't think anyone thinks Robby is an elite WR regardless of his numbers this year. He's just doing better in Carolina. But like I said, I think that is just a product of being a good offensive system. So Sam sucks because his weaponz suck. And his weaponz suck because Sam sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Philc1 said: This. Watching Bridgewater play he isn’t doing anything special. He’s throwing to his first read on well designed plays (which is usually Robby). Robbie is special because he's a nice 2nd passing option but Bridgewater is nothing special. TB is currently 3rd in Completion percentage, 2nd in yards, and 8th in yards per attempt. You're half right Teddy is a better QB than Robbie is a WR. Neither one is elite and once their is more tape on Carolina both of their stats will revert to their norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, TeddEY said: 2nd in receiving yards having played one more game than everyone else. YPG he's outside top 10, and trending downwards. Still seems to be a bit more than "nothing more than a WR3" which I consistently read on here. It's also interesting that you have mentioned his low ypc and tds since those are the things he was generally perceived as good at when he left. It's also that he went somewhere to play with another chicken armed QB, but 86 ypg and a 75% catch rate would be celebrated around here like the second coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Still seems to be a bit more than "nothing more than a WR3" which I consistently read on here. It's also interesting that you have mentioned his low ypc and tds since those are the things he was generally perceived as good at when he left. It's also that he went somewhere to play with another chicken armed QB, but 86ypg and a 75% catch rate would be celebrated around here like the second coming. I never thought he was "nothing more than a WR3," so I couldn't speak to that. I do know some people underrated him. But, many here are also making it out to be a colossal mistake that we didn't resign him. It's also pretty universally agreed that he wouldn't be doing as well here because either Darnold sucks, Gase Sucks, or some combination of the two. Again, I'd still be happy to have Anderson on the roster. I only brought it up because people ARE acting like he's the second coming now that he's gone, and that simply doesn't hold up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Calling Teddy Bridgewater TB is worse than calling Tomlinson LT. What's next? Are we going to start referring to Marvin Jones Jr. as MJ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, TeddEY said: I never thought he was "nothing more than a WR3," so I couldn't speak to that. I do know some people underrated him. But, many here are also making it out to be a colossal mistake that we didn't resign him. It's also pretty universally agreed that he wouldn't be doing as well here because either Darnold sucks, Gase Sucks, or some combination of the two. Again, I'd still be happy to have Anderson on the roster. I only brought it up because people ARE acting like he's, the second coming now that he's gone, and that simply doesn't hold up. Shocking that on this message board people tend to swing to extremes. I think the reason that this gets pumped is that we all saw the WR room as a disaster. It was bad and many of us saw it as downgraded. People were pushing Perriman as a budding star that would flourish here. The utter failure at the position has caused all the Anderson supporters to crow. I think they have a right, up to a point. I say the above as Jeff Smith's biggest fan and someone that liked the idea of signing Perriman for potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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