The Crusher Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, Hal N of Provo said: A QB controversy often leads to coaches and GMs getting fired. I’m sure they have thought about that lol So does sticking with a QB who blows. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 This dude is old and washes up but they wanna bring him back and possibly let Berrios walkMake it make sense 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, The Crusher said: So does sticking with a QB who blows. They get 2 more years if that’s how it goes without a QB conterversy this year. Plus if they build the team well otherwise, they get a bonus plug in a Vet season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I’m ok with having those 3 back as the Qb room in 2022. Flacco was ok and can still play and White is worth keeping around although he could have a chance to sign with another team as a backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, Hal N of Provo said: They get 2 more years if that’s how it goes without a QB conterversy this year. Plus if they build the team well otherwise, they get a bonus plug in a Vet season Sadly your probably right. New GM, new HC abs new QB is 2-3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 hours ago, kevinc855 said: This is what JD is focused on dear god Lol. Rex Hogan: “Hey Joe, we got this report on Metcalf, he might be avai…” Douglas: “Did Flacco sign yet?” Hogan: “No, but we..” Douglas: “Then why are you Rex?” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Personally I like the backup QB to have a similar style of play as the starter, but I wouldn't hate signing Flacco to a reasonable contract. He's a vet that can step in and compete for a game or two if necessary. One of Douglas' biggest mistakes last year was going into the year with a QB room with zero NFL starts combined. That's not a good way to help develop a rookie QB from a small school. He learned his lesson quickly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, DoubleDown said: One of Douglas' biggest mistakes last year was going into the year with a QB room with zero NFL starts combined. That's not a good way to help develop a rookie QB from a small school. He learned his lesson quickly. @Mogglez mentioned or quoted the word idiot. I thought it was too harsh, but now that I think about it... You get paid millones to ruin an organization by having another bust James Morgan and a one day twink HOF as mentors to a rookie. Genius GM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Hal N of Provo said: Worried for good reason to be fair. From Pop Warner Football to the NFL, QB controversies are terrible for teams. You need on the field leadership and a divided locker room can kill a team. Incidentally, this is why they martyred Mike White the first opportunity they had. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 hours ago, FidelioJet said: So we don't all agree it seems. I do think, though, on this one there's no point in belaboring an argument. I don't buy into conspiracy theories, that Woody or marketing or Wilsons feelings - whatever it is is a reason for not spending big money on a back up QB. I believe it's simply a team building and resource allocation decision. Your argument falls on its face because the jets haven’t been allocating all of their resources. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 This will be a big year for Zach. It’s expected that he will have a better team to work with. Teams no longer are willing to struggle for years developing a Qb they expect results early and are willing to go in a different direction. I’d say if Zach struggles in year two the Jets could go in a different direction like they did with Sam after year 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, Rangers9 said: This will be a big year for Zach. It’s expected that he will have a better team to work with. Teams no longer are willing to struggle for years developing a Qb they expect results early and are willing to go in a different direction. I’d say if Zach struggles in year two the Jets could go in a different direction like the did with Sam after year 3. Yup. Zach doesn't need to be amazing yet but he needs to show definitive improvement. His cutting down TO's and bad decisions to end the season showed that he can in fact learn, grow, and adapt to the speed of the game. However next year he must be head and shoulders better in comparison to his rookie year, as you should expect from a high pick QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 hours ago, RichardTodd27 said: Why not have a legitimate backup plan we can all get excited for (like Minshew)? Probably because he is under contract to the Eagles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 24 minutes ago, Joejet said: Probably because he is under contract to the Eagles. The market for QBs is high because a number of teams w/o a starting Qb. I could see a team like the Colts now being interested in him or even Seattle. Minshew played at Wash State and was a big deal for the time he played there. They got a load of picks and could bid high with a 2nd rounder for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Heres the cold harsh reality Zach didnt show anything to prove hes a franchise QB We are basically rolling the dice in season 2. I would of liked to see some competition brought in who can learn the system and possibly step in year 3 if Zach busts out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Heres the cold harsh reality Zach didnt show anything to prove hes a franchise QB We are basically rolling the dice in season 2. I would of liked to see some competition brought in who can learn the system and possibly step in year 3 if Zach busts out. Such as? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 12 hours ago, ZachEY said: We should all be okay with the guy who graded out as the NFL's worst QB being handed the job with no reasonable alternative. Yes, this is, in fact, good. Just stop ! They can't handle the truth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 11 hours ago, Trotter said: I'm not anti Flacco but would Jameis be an alternative? Jameis SUCKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 hour ago, kevinc855 said: Heres the cold harsh reality Zach didnt show anything to prove hes a franchise QB We are basically rolling the dice in season 2. I would of liked to see some competition brought in who can learn the system and possibly step in year 3 if Zach busts out. There is absolutely no one out there like that. This training camp should be a competition between White and Wilson. Even if White is not the guy the competition should happen and nothing should be handed to Zach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 hours ago, ZachEY said: Incidentally, this is why they martyred Mike White the first opportunity they had. Things have changed for me - I’d be thrilled if Mike White was the next Tom Brady. You deal Zach for some picks and you roll. White played exceptionally well in the short game. Everything else was not good at all. Watch the every throw videos if you don’t believe me and want to see if I’m crazy. That said, he’s a former baseball player so he’s gotta have an arm. He could develop. A little better and he’s a great backup. A lot better on the longer throws and he’ll be a good starter. 2 hours ago, kevinc855 said: Heres the cold harsh reality Zach didnt show anything to prove hes a franchise QB We are basically rolling the dice in season 2. I would of liked to see some competition brought in who can learn the system and possibly step in year 3 if Zach busts out. wha?!? Are you one of those posters who can’t admit a single positive thing about Zach? He showed he can be a FQB. He needs to improve to get there, but he showed some great attributes. We watched different seasons lol. 33 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: Just stop ! They can't handle the truth The “truth” 30 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: There is absolutely no one out there like that. This training camp should be a competition between White and Wilson. Even if White is not the guy the competition should happen and nothing should be handed to Zach White got his ass kicked by the rookie Wilson in camp last year and threw 5 TDs and 8 picks in the regular season. This is Mike White homerism to call for an open competition to start. If Wilson’s sucking and he’s doing well, start giving White some 1st team reps and go from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Does anyone else feel like we’ve seen this show before? Iffy 2nd year guy about to get handed the job again while they overpay a sh*tty vet, the team has a ton of money to spend but likely isn’t gonna land any of the top guys, they’re selling the fanbase on this awesome draft they’re going to have, and Woody is off somewhere trying to buy a ******* soccer team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Does anyone else feel like we’ve seen this show before? Iffy 2nd year guy about to get handed the job again while they overpay a sh*tty vet, the team has a ton of money to spend but likely isn’t gonna land any of the top guys, they’re selling the fanbase on this awesome draft they’re going to have, and Woody is off somewhere trying to buy a ******* soccer team. In some ways, it feels like the Jets brand is as bad as it’s ever been, and this wasn’t supposed to be the case when they hired Saleh—who was supposed to be some galvanizing star super-coach that everyone wanted to play for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: In some ways, it feels like the Jets brand is as bad as it’s ever been, and this wasn’t supposed to be the case when they hired Saleh—who was supposed to be some galvanizing star super-coach that everyone wanted to play for. He was the same exact guy they’ve been hiring since Groh walked. The only thing left to do at this point is move the team into a Bed and Breakfast in Punxsutawney. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 5 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Why would anyone have their head this deep inside of MW for one game and a dream? It’s not like I think Mike White is or could be Tom Brady. The Mike White Problem for these Jets is that every Jets fan and seemingly every player in the Jets locker room wanted Mike White to start, and the Jets organization—in cowardly and embarrassing fashion—flagrantly kneecapped him to preserve Zach Wilson’s brittle feelings. The fact that Saleh—who is allegedly building a culture of accountability—stood in front of a microphone and said White was being benched because the Miami defense was just too gosh-darn tough for an inexperienced player, only to stick Zach Wilson out there against that defense a few weeks later, exposed Saleh as nothing more than an empty suit who was legitimately awful in Year One of his NFL career. No one is saying that Mike White was or is destined to be great; the issue is that the Jets handled the Mike White situation as poorly and pathetically as it could be handled, and that bodes poorly for this current sh*tty regime moving forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 7 hours ago, T0mShane said: It’s not like I think Mike White is or could be Tom Brady. The Mike White Problem for these Jets is that every Jets fan and seemingly every player in the Jets locker room wanted Mike White to start, and the Jets organization—in cowardly and embarrassing fashion—flagrantly kneecapped him to preserve Zach Wilson’s brittle feelings. The fact that Saleh—who is allegedly building a culture of accountability—stood in front of a microphone and said White was being benched because the Miami defense was just too gosh-darn tough for an inexperienced player, only to stick Zach Wilson out there against that defense a few weeks later, exposed Saleh as nothing more than an empty suit who was legitimately awful in Year One of his NFL career. No one is saying that Mike White was or is destined to be great; the issue is that the Jets handled the Mike White situation as poorly and pathetically as it could be handled, and that bodes poorly for this current sh*tty regime moving forward. You have no idea if a single player thought White was a starter or wanted him to start over Wilson. They broke his balls, pumping him up and clowning but somehow you missed that. They were laughing as they were chanting his name. Just as you missed every WR praising the talents they see in ZWs game. Every one on the OL. Zach Wilson plays over White because he’s more talented and makes throws that MW can only dream about. And that’s with White having 4 more years of experience over Zach. No one handled MW poorly or pathetically. He played a great game got other starts and either shlt the bed or got injured. But you dream of Romo whoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Bringing Flacco back makes sense in the sense that it makes no sense. It makes sense that this regime continues to make no sense in sensical areas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 5 hours ago, T0mShane said: It’s not like I think Mike White is or could be Tom Brady. The Mike White Problem for these Jets is that every Jets fan and seemingly every player in the Jets locker room wanted Mike White to start, and the Jets organization—in cowardly and embarrassing fashion—flagrantly kneecapped him to preserve Zach Wilson’s brittle feelings. The fact that Saleh—who is allegedly building a culture of accountability—stood in front of a microphone and said White was being benched because the Miami defense was just too gosh-darn tough for an inexperienced player, only to stick Zach Wilson out there against that defense a few weeks later, exposed Saleh as nothing more than an empty suit who was legitimately awful in Year One of his NFL career. No one is saying that Mike White was or is destined to be great; the issue is that the Jets handled the Mike White situation as poorly and pathetically as it could be handled, and that bodes poorly for this current sh*tty regime moving forward. Políticas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Congratulations to JD for earning the "Working to bring back Joe Flacco" badge! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 6 hours ago, Jet Nut said: They broke his balls, pumping him up and clowning but somehow you missed that. This is wild stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, T0mShane said: This is wild stuff. Facts can be confusing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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