slats Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: The Packers trying to play hardball here has got to be holding up business for them, too, no? As long as Rodgers is under contract with his cap hit, they can't go out and sign additional FAs like they otherwise could? Murphy is a dirtbag. On one hand, he talks about "wanting what's best for Aaron" while behind the scenes, he is trying to squeeze the Jets with unreasonable demands which are essentially blocking Rodgers from moving on. The Jets can't say anything publicly because that would be tampering. But Rodgers can do his thing by publicly trashing Murphy for how he is handling the situation and for not doing right by "an all time Packer". As soon as the deal becomes official, it costs them $8.6M against the cap before Douglas tries to get them to eat even more of that contract. So delaying gives them a little artificial cap space to operate in free agency and try to make a grab in the process. It’s not gonna work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Ron Rico said: LOL have a nice day. No answer? That's what I thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, bitonti said: The Packers have 2 viable qbs. The Jets have Zach and no other viable options on the market besides Rodgers The Packers gm and hc got long term extensions before last season JD is in year 5 of 6 and has to win now The Packers have more leverage and if you don't believe that, why isn't the deal done yet? Green Bay and NFL HQ's have a vendetta against Rodgers. That's my opinion. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MichaelScott Posted March 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, hotrodcharlie said: So a deal doesn't get done? King Rodgers may have pledged himself to the Jets but that really doesn't mean anything as he is under contract in GB and they aren't giving him away for free. I would ask for a 1st if I was them as well, what do the Jets have for leverage? "hey he went on a radio show saying he would like to play for us." "Ok. who cares" Yeah, you're not seeing the entire situation at all. You realize that GB has even more at stake right? Because he didn't retire they NEED him traded. They are on the hook to guarantee him another 60 mil this spring if he is on their roster. At the same time, mind you, they have to exercise the 5th year option on their 1st round QB that has never even played yet. Jets have all the leverage in this situation because GB needed him to retire and no other team has shown interest. If there was a bidding war it would be different. But there isn't, they have 1 viable option right now and that's why the Jets have the leverage. They are not in a position to get full or even fair value for him. They are in a position where, at worst case, they would need to give up picks just to have another team take on his contract because him being on their roster this spring completely f*cks them. They can't keep him and they can't cut him. Trading him is the only way they get out of this situation and that's why they have no leverage at all. 8 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Tranquilo said: No answer? That's what I thought I don't know how old you are, but I hope for your sake you are no older than 29. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 I want Rogers to stay on Green Bay but behave as if he's a full time Ayahuasca Shaman. Would be epic. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxville Jets Fan Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 PFT: Packers want a first round pick and more Good take on the situation, and GB's overreaching, by Florio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Ron Rico said: I don't know how old you are, but I hope for your sake you are no older than 29. More attacks and deflection and no response. Keep going. That's what happens when you don't have an answer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, thebuzzardman said: I want Rogers to stay on Green Bay but behave as if he's a full time Ayahuasca Shaman. Would be epic. I want Rodgers to stick it so far up "Gutey"s" butt, he'll wish for a quick death. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, Tranquilo said: @Mogglez and @football guy both said that the deal was done and we were waiting on Rodgers. Do they have a conspiracy against Rodgers, too? Maybe they were just wrong? They're right more often than not though, and the same cant be said for the media at large. But I know they werent bashing him on a coordinated smear campaign for 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, JTJet said: Maybe they were just wrong? They're right more often than not though, and the same cant be said for the media at large. But I know they werent bashing him on a coordinated smear campaign for 2 years. Not true. So now it's about the bashing (that's in your head because he agrees with something you agree with). Not that both Schefter and Rapapport had basically the same information as our insiders. But you're willing to forgive them. Interesting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Tranquilo said: If the media's job isn't to make their subjects look good, then how do you feel about the Pat McAfee show? Most of the media did not make sh*t up. How did you know the Packers and Jets were talking about Rodgers? Trey Wingo and @football guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, thebuzzardman said: I want Rogers to stay on Green Bay but behave as if he's a full time Ayahuasca Shaman. Would be epic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, JTJet said: Maybe they were just wrong? They're right more often than not though, and the same cant be said for the media at large. But I know they werent bashing him on a coordinated smear campaign for 2 years. OR the deal changed and JD isn't giving in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, JetPotato said: Trey Wingo and @footballguy Also @Mogglez 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, thebuzzardman said: It's really like modern day HGH when you think about it. TB12 method vs. the AR12 method, both very effective. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tranquilo said: Not true. So now it's about the bashing (that's in your head because he agrees with something you agree with). Not that both Schefter and Rapapport had basically the same information as our insiders. But you're willing to forgive them. Interesting. Www.google.com Keywords Aaron Rodgers 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 If any good came from this entire charade, I no longer hate Woody Johnson or JD. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Too bad this was not the Jets and Rodgers attitude all along. They hung themselves on this issue. They should have made their desire for Rodgers very clear to the Packers and Rodgers early which I believe they did, They then should have put a deadline on the time line so that if either of them was not ready to move they could have pivoted to plan B or C Instead in their desperation for plan A they let it go too long, then for some reason assumed that the moment Rodgers said okay the packers would roll over, this after the other viable options were off the table. I have no doubt when talking to the Packers Douglas is trying to walk it back and suggest just what you are saying, but those words are hollow and the Packers know it. Before the Jets held all the cards and the Packers had none. But the way we handled this situation we gave the Packers some juice to squeeze. Also, what comes around goes around, Rodgers squeezed the Packers his last few years there, now they feel they can do the squeezing. In the end an agreement will be made, the Packers will get less than they like the Jets will pay more than they like. The desire to get things done in time to move to plan B or C presumes they felt there was a viable plan B or C that had a clock on it. There’s a change in leverage if they aren’t willing to walk away, but again the Packers need this more than the Jets do. Only thing that in my opinion would meaningfully change leverage is if another team gets involved and Rodgers gives them the thumbs up. As it sits now, the Packers need to trade him and they need to trade him to the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, JTJet said: Www.google.com Keywords Aaron Rodgers 2021 Just go to ESPN. They got all the articles and clips talking about him. Seems like some people like him, some people don't. Not some agenda conspiracy that you like to think there is because he also hates vaccines. Grow up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ron Rico said: If any good came from this entire charade, I no longer hate Woody Johnson or JD. I'll always hate Woody 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: Also @Mogglez And both our insiders said that we were waiting on Rodgers to make a decision. I guess they're liars too then huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tranquilo said: And both our insiders said that we were waiting on Rodgers to make a decision. I guess they're liars too then huh? Or Packers changed the trade compensation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, thebuzzardman said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Tranquilo said: Just go to ESPN. They got all the articles and clips talking about him. Seems like some people like him, some people don't. Not some agenda conspiracy that you like to think there is because he also hates vaccines. Grow up. Again, willful ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, JTJet said: Again, willful ignorance. Again, echo chamber conspiracy And it's funny. Now it isn't even about the content that our insiders also had, now it's because they are wah wah mean to Rodgers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtomm Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 hours ago, BigRy56 said: Damn. What are we going to talk about now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtomm Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, Ron Rico said: If any good came from this entire charade, I no longer hate Woody Johnson or JD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted March 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 16, 2023 6 hours ago, Tranquilo said: @Mogglez and @football guy both said that the deal was done and we were waiting on Rodgers. Do they have a conspiracy against Rodgers, too? I’m only going to address this once, and then I’m done with getting dragged into “sources” BS. Schefter and Rapp do this as a job; I do not. The ridiculous temper tantrums they and their respective networks have gone on since they were told, by Aaron himself, to f*ck off, is not the same as me passing something I heard along and commenting on it as a fan. I had heard Monday, post Wingo tweet, when he said that it was done, that Rodgers has agreed to come here, and the compensation was agreed upon as of Friday, and they were waiting on Aaron to make it official. I posted that here. What we now know is that Rodgers told both teams Friday as well. I don’t know what the current situation is, but reading the tea leaves, it appears that Green Bay is trying to alter an already established deal because the Jets don’t have a FA QB to turn to. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cbucco19 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, Mogglez said: I’m only going to address this once, and then I’m done with getting dragged into “sources” BS. Schefter and Rapp do this as a job; I do not. The ridiculous temper tantrums they and their respective networks have gone on since they were told, by Aaron himself, to f*ck off, is not the same as me passing something I heard along and commenting on it as a fan. I had heard Monday, post Wingo tweet, when he said that it was done, was that Rodgers has agreed to come here, and the compensation was agreed upon as of Friday, they were waiting on Aaron to make it official. I posted that here. What we now know is that Rodgers told both teams Friday as well. I don’t know what the current situation is, but reading the tea leaves, it appears that Green Bay is trying to alter an already established deal because the Jets don’t have a FA QB to turn to. Wingo also said the deal is 99% done and he is coming to NY next week !! So I still think you are correct @Mogglez 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I’m only going to address this once, and then I’m done with getting dragged into “sources” BS. Schefter and Rapp do this as a job; I do not. The ridiculous temper tantrums they and their respective networks have gone on since they were told, by Aaron himself, to f*ck off, is not the same as me passing something I heard along and commenting on it as a fan. I had heard Monday, post Wingo tweet, when he said that it was done, was that Rodgers has agreed to come here, and the compensation was agreed upon as of Friday, they were waiting on Aaron to make it official. I posted that here. What we now know is that Rodgers told both teams Friday as well. I don’t know what the current situation is, but reading the tea leaves, it appears that Green Bay is trying to alter an already established deal because the Jets don’t have a FA QB to turn to. All I'm saying is multiple people, including the hated Schefter and Rapp had similar information. But nah everyone hates Rodgers and wants to paint him in a bad light. Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Blast Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Green DNA said: So he's assuming that the fans anxiety will motivate JD in to taking quick action or upping the offer. JD is not conducting business based upon the fanbase. Brandt is an idiot. Andrew Brandt is a former GM of the Packers, which more than qualifies him to state his opinion. I subscribe to his newsletter and enjoy hearing his takes on the business side of the NFL. Sometimes he proves to be correct on his takes, while other times he is wrong. But he is always interesting. Are you saying anyone who is wrong is an Idiot? If so, then almost every one of us on this board is an idiot. We have all been wrong at times. One more thing... I agree JD would not be swayed by the fanbase. But Woody would, and he signs JD's paychecks. Just saying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, Tranquilo said: All I'm saying is multiple people, including the hated Schefter and Rapp had similar information. But nah everyone hates Rodgers and wants to paint him in a bad light. Please. I’m not getting into a pissing match with Schefter or Rap, but they did not have similar information. They had no idea that Rodgers told the Jets on Friday and Schefter, in particular, went on air multiple times to refute his former colleague’s claim to the contrary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I’m not getting into a pissing match with Schefter or Rap, but they did not have similar information. They had no idea that Rodgers told the Jets on Friday and Schefter, in particular, went on air multiple times to refute his former colleague’s claim to the contrary. Everyone, including yourself, did not have Rodgers telling the Jets on Friday. On top of that, they didn't say the Packer and Jets agreed to a trade. Which is true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 JD and the Packers GM rn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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