The "Rodgers Impact" ...

[KRL]

 

https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/92029/aaron-rodgers-takes-control-of-jets-offense-which-means-pop-quizzes

 

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- A typical offensive meeting for the New York Jets is atypical from recent years, meaning there's more than one voice in the room.

Offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett leads the discussion, but he has a chatty co-pilot who likes to interject opinions, suggestions and pointed questions to his fellow players.

No, Aaron Rodgers doesn't make a good wallflower.

"We'll be in the meeting and Hack will be talking, then Aaron will butt in real quick," running back Breece Hall said of the Jets' quarterback.

Players need to pay attention because Rodgers will go around the room, quizzing players from the various position groups. He will ask a player his assignment on a particular play, then change it up by testing that same player on how he would adjust if the play gets changed at the line of scrimmage.

"You feel that sense of calm," Hall said, "but you also know you have to be on your stuff."

Aaron Rodgers discusses some nuances on the field with some new teammates. Seth Wenig/Associated Press

Rodgers has yet to play a down for the Jets, who acquired him 44 days ago from the Green Bay Packers, but he already has changed the way they do football.

At the same time, this is one of the main reasons why Rodgers decided to continue his career with the Jets. With Hackett -- a close friend and confidant -- running the offense, he knew he'd have a major say in the implementation and direction of the offense, which he views as a refreshing change from Green Bay.

Rodgers chafed at times under Packers coach Matt LaFleur, occasionally expressing his frustration publicly. Rodgers, who once said LaFleur's system "has flaws," vented last season after a loss to the Jets, claiming the offense needed to be simplified. It wasn't the first time he aired his feelings.

Make no mistake, Rodgers was vocal in Green Bay's meetings -- he said so himself -- but there's a difference between speaking up and being heard. While it's still the honeymoon phase, it sounds like his words carry more weight in New York. You might say he has ownership of the offense, which was designed with him in mind. Simply put, it's his show.

"The worst thing you can see in a meeting is a coach up there talking the entire time with no interaction," Rodgers said. "That might be the standard at some places, but I just never felt that’s been the right way to do things. It needs to be a free-flowing conversation between the coaches and the players. There needs to be feedback, you need to call on guys. So I’m allowed to do some of that stuff."

Rodgers said he gets "a lot of latitude" from Hackett, who served as the Packers' coordinator from 2019 to 2021. While Hackett didn't call the plays, he was heavily involved in game-planning and acted as an important buffer between Rodgers and LaFleur, the playcaller. Hey, it worked. Rodgers won his third and fourth NFL MVP awards in 2020 and 2021.

Now they're reunited, with Rodgers enjoying the kind of carte blanche that Peyton Manning and Tom Brady experienced later in their careers with the Denver Broncos and Tampa Bay Buccaneers, respectively. Rodgers said he loves the newfound "freedom of expression," which might be a subtle jab at LaFleur.

The Jets haven't had a starting quarterback with this much experience (Rodgers has 223 starts) since Josh McCown in 2017. Joe Flacco (180 career starts) was on the roster the past two seasons, but he wasn't in a position as a backup to be a take-charge presence. He wanted to give former starter Zach Wilson the room to grow, so he tried not to overstep.

Now it all revolves around Rodgers.

"I've been around some really good quarterbacks, but just the command he has with everything, it's different," said longtime tackle Duane Brown, who played with Deshaun Watson and Russell Wilson with the Houston Texans and Seattle Seahawks, respectively.

Rodgers is everywhere. He pops into positional meetings to share coaching points, adjustments and code words. "Little cheats," he called them. He relies on hand signals at the line of scrimmage, so it's imperative that everyone -- especially the receivers -- are on the same page as him.

Just recently, he joined an offensive line meeting to discuss pre-snap calls. Those are important because he uses his cadence as a weapon, drawing defenses offside to get free plays.

He wants everyone to know how he sees the game and how he likes to do things, and everyone is OK with that because ... well, he's Aaron Rodgers.

“He makes if different,” guard Laken Tomlinson said. “He makes it different with his confidence. He makes it different with his communication. He makes it different with his high level of play. Having all that mesh into that position, it’s truly special working with someone of that caliber. He makes everyone be on their A-game every day.”

Everybody, it seems, wants to pick Rodgers' brain. Defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich said he already has started to create a video with cut-ups from last season, starting with the Jets-Packers game. He wants to sit with Rodgers and get his take on how he attacked the Jets' scheme, with the hope of using that knowledge to make improvements.

"I’ve been around a lot of superstars in this league that are very standoffish, that are very isolated, do their own thing, and he’s as inclusive as I’ve ever been around, especially for a player of that caliber," said Ulbrich, adding that Rodgers provides constant feedback for the defensive coaches.

Everybody knows what Rodgers can do with the ball -- eight seasons of at least 30 touchdown passes -- but players and coaches seem just as excited about his cerebral talent at the line of scrimmage. Football is a chess game, and the Jets are going from novice to grand master.

Rodgers will have more leeway at the line to change plays, according to coach Robert Saleh, who believes his QB1's hands-on approach fosters more collaboration in the classroom. The previous coordinator, Mike LaFleur, Matt's younger brother, ran the offense in a traditional fashion: coaches coach, players play.

While the LaFleur brothers and Hackett all employ variations of the West Coast offense, the Jets' version will be tailored to Rodgers' strengths and wants. That probably means less pre-snap motion.

One of his pet peeves with Matt LaFleur's system is that it relies heavily on motion. In fact, the Packers ran some form of motion on 596 plays last season, 10th-highest in the NFL, according to ESPN Stats & Information data. (The Jets were fifth at 639 plays.) The LaFleurs learned from San Francisco 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan, whose system is predicated on motion.

Many coaches believe motion makes it easier to read defenses and create favorable matchups, but Rodgers prefers a static approach because it enables him to go up-tempo whenever he wants. As evidence, he notes that Manning did it this way with the Indianapolis Colts. Chances are, Rodgers will get his way.

"We see (the game) through the same lens," Hackett said.

Rodgers' goal is to have everyone in the offensive room feel the same way.

[jtomm]

..ugghhh !   already posted ^^   🙄

[freestater]

Thank you, Aaron Rodgers. Thank you.

[oatmeal]

“At the same time, this is one of the main reasons why Rodgers decided to continue his career with the Jets. With Hackett -- a close friend and confidant -- running the offense, he knew he'd have a major say in the implementation and direction of the offense, which he views as a refreshing change from Green Bay.

Rodgers chafed at times under Packers coach Matt LaFleur, occasionally expressing his frustration publicly. Rodgers, who once said LaFleur's system "has flaws," vented last season after a loss to the Jets, claiming the offense needed to be simplified. It wasn't the first time he aired his feelings.

Make no mistake, Rodgers was vocal in Green Bay's meetings -- he said so himself -- but there's a difference between speaking up and being heard. While it's still the honeymoon phase, it sounds like his words carry more weight in New York. You might say he has ownership of the offense, which was designed with him in mind. Simply put, it's his show.“ 

@T0mShane@Jetsfan80

Take a bow boys 100% exactly what we been saying the time when this Rodgers thing was just a jet fans fantasy 

[C Mart]

"That probably means less pre-snap motion.

One of his pet peeves with Matt LaFleur's system is that it relies heavily on motion. In fact, the Packers ran some form of motion on 596 plays last season, 10th-highest in the NFL, according to ESPN Stats & Information data. (The Jets were fifth at 639 plays.) The LaFleurs learned from San Francisco 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan, whose system is predicated on motion.

Many coaches believe motion makes it easier to read defenses and create favorable matchups, but Rodgers prefers a static approach because it enables him to go up-tempo whenever he wants. As evidence, he notes that Manning did it this way with the Indianapolis Colts. Chances are, Rodgers will get his way."

 

I remember reading Manning didn't want pre-snap motion because he wanted the D to remain just how he viewed them on tape.

[Larz]

Rodgers is rejuvenated because he got exactly what he wanted, an organization that is bending over backwards to make him happy and validate how special and important he is, first round WR talent, the freedom to do things as he wants to, a large metropolitan area to enjoy being fabulously well to do, and his bff coach and bff player. 
this is shaping up to be a really fun season 

[Wit]

Lafluer but the bullet for Hackett which paved the way to Rodgers. I can’t WAIT to see some actual jets offense this year. Crazy.


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[Rich Thornburgh]

Hackett ran nothing in GB.  Rodgers was the real OC and that’s true now.  Hackett is here to be Aaron’s buddy and get him coffee

[The Crusher]

11 minutes ago, Larz said:

Rodgers is rejuvenated because he got exactly what he wanted, an organization that is bending over backwards to make him happy and validate how special and important he is, first round WR talent, the freedom to do things as he wants to, a large metropolitan area to enjoy being fabulously well to do, and his bff coach and bff player. 
this is shaping up to be a really fun season 

I’ll add… as he should! 

[The Crusher]

2 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

Hackett ran nothing in GB.  Rodgers was the real OC and that’s true now.  Hackett is here to be Aaron’s buddy and get him coffee

That ain’t coffee pal! 

[Larz]

GMF is doing their third Jets bit this morning lol.  This is going to seem strange for a few more months, relevance 

[Larz]

9 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

Hackett ran nothing in GB.  Rodgers was the real OC and that’s true now.  Hackett is here to be Aaron’s buddy and get him coffee

[Jet Nut]

3 minutes ago, Larz said:

GMF is doing their third Jets bit this morning lol.  This is going to seem strange for a few more months, relevance 

It’s a whole new world.

[Untouchable]

59 minutes ago, freestater said:

Thank you, Aaron Rodgers. Thank you.

Still feels like a dream

Like I’m going to suddenly wake up tomorrow and Andy Dalton is our QB.

[rangerous]

If Hackett didn’t have much to do with the Green Bay offense then why was he hired as the Denver head coach?   Hard to say how this will all turn out.  It all sounds good but just how different will the actual plays be than what most teams run? IMO they won’t. It’s all going to come down to execution.

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, rangerous said:

If Hackett didn’t have much to do with the Green Bay offense then why was he hired as the Denver head coach?   

You new to the NFL or something?  Offensive Coordinators get peter principled into HC jobs all the time when none of the credit belongs to them.  

[#27TheDominator]

16 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

Still feels like a dream

Like I’m going to suddenly wake up tomorrow and Andy Dalton is our QB.

Not until September.

[jbt]

37 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

Hackett ran nothing in GB.  Rodgers was the real OC and that’s true now.  Hackett is here to be Aaron’s buddy and get him coffee

so we just just rehire this guy

[More Cowbell]

[batman10023]

3 hours ago, KRL said:

 

https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/92029/aaron-rodgers-takes-control-of-jets-offense-which-means-pop-quizzes

 

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- A typical offensive meeting for the New York Jets is atypical from recent years, meaning there's more than one voice in the room.

Offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett leads the discussion, but he has a chatty co-pilot who likes to interject opinions, suggestions and pointed questions to his fellow players.

No, Aaron Rodgers doesn't make a good wallflower.

"We'll be in the meeting and Hack will be talking, then Aaron will butt in real quick," running back Breece Hall said of the Jets' quarterback.

Players need to pay attention because Rodgers will go around the room, quizzing players from the various position groups. He will ask a player his assignment on a particular play, then change it up by testing that same player on how he would adjust if the play gets changed at the line of scrimmage.

"You feel that sense of calm," Hall said, "but you also know you have to be on your stuff."

Aaron Rodgers discusses some nuances on the field with some new teammates. Seth Wenig/Associated Press

Rodgers has yet to play a down for the Jets, who acquired him 44 days ago from the Green Bay Packers, but he already has changed the way they do football.

At the same time, this is one of the main reasons why Rodgers decided to continue his career with the Jets. With Hackett -- a close friend and confidant -- running the offense, he knew he'd have a major say in the implementation and direction of the offense, which he views as a refreshing change from Green Bay.

Rodgers chafed at times under Packers coach Matt LaFleur, occasionally expressing his frustration publicly. Rodgers, who once said LaFleur's system "has flaws," vented last season after a loss to the Jets, claiming the offense needed to be simplified. It wasn't the first time he aired his feelings.

Make no mistake, Rodgers was vocal in Green Bay's meetings -- he said so himself -- but there's a difference between speaking up and being heard. While it's still the honeymoon phase, it sounds like his words carry more weight in New York. You might say he has ownership of the offense, which was designed with him in mind. Simply put, it's his show.

"The worst thing you can see in a meeting is a coach up there talking the entire time with no interaction," Rodgers said. "That might be the standard at some places, but I just never felt that’s been the right way to do things. It needs to be a free-flowing conversation between the coaches and the players. There needs to be feedback, you need to call on guys. So I’m allowed to do some of that stuff."

Rodgers said he gets "a lot of latitude" from Hackett, who served as the Packers' coordinator from 2019 to 2021. While Hackett didn't call the plays, he was heavily involved in game-planning and acted as an important buffer between Rodgers and LaFleur, the playcaller. Hey, it worked. Rodgers won his third and fourth NFL MVP awards in 2020 and 2021.

Now they're reunited, with Rodgers enjoying the kind of carte blanche that Peyton Manning and Tom Brady experienced later in their careers with the Denver Broncos and Tampa Bay Buccaneers, respectively. Rodgers said he loves the newfound "freedom of expression," which might be a subtle jab at LaFleur.

The Jets haven't had a starting quarterback with this much experience (Rodgers has 223 starts) since Josh McCown in 2017. Joe Flacco (180 career starts) was on the roster the past two seasons, but he wasn't in a position as a backup to be a take-charge presence. He wanted to give former starter Zach Wilson the room to grow, so he tried not to overstep.

Now it all revolves around Rodgers.

"I've been around some really good quarterbacks, but just the command he has with everything, it's different," said longtime tackle Duane Brown, who played with Deshaun Watson and Russell Wilson with the Houston Texans and Seattle Seahawks, respectively.

Rodgers is everywhere. He pops into positional meetings to share coaching points, adjustments and code words. "Little cheats," he called them. He relies on hand signals at the line of scrimmage, so it's imperative that everyone -- especially the receivers -- are on the same page as him.

Just recently, he joined an offensive line meeting to discuss pre-snap calls. Those are important because he uses his cadence as a weapon, drawing defenses offside to get free plays.

He wants everyone to know how he sees the game and how he likes to do things, and everyone is OK with that because ... well, he's Aaron Rodgers.

“He makes if different,” guard Laken Tomlinson said. “He makes it different with his confidence. He makes it different with his communication. He makes it different with his high level of play. Having all that mesh into that position, it’s truly special working with someone of that caliber. He makes everyone be on their A-game every day.”

Everybody, it seems, wants to pick Rodgers' brain. Defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich said he already has started to create a video with cut-ups from last season, starting with the Jets-Packers game. He wants to sit with Rodgers and get his take on how he attacked the Jets' scheme, with the hope of using that knowledge to make improvements.

"I’ve been around a lot of superstars in this league that are very standoffish, that are very isolated, do their own thing, and he’s as inclusive as I’ve ever been around, especially for a player of that caliber," said Ulbrich, adding that Rodgers provides constant feedback for the defensive coaches.

Everybody knows what Rodgers can do with the ball -- eight seasons of at least 30 touchdown passes -- but players and coaches seem just as excited about his cerebral talent at the line of scrimmage. Football is a chess game, and the Jets are going from novice to grand master.

Rodgers will have more leeway at the line to change plays, according to coach Robert Saleh, who believes his QB1's hands-on approach fosters more collaboration in the classroom. The previous coordinator, Mike LaFleur, Matt's younger brother, ran the offense in a traditional fashion: coaches coach, players play.

While the LaFleur brothers and Hackett all employ variations of the West Coast offense, the Jets' version will be tailored to Rodgers' strengths and wants. That probably means less pre-snap motion.

One of his pet peeves with Matt LaFleur's system is that it relies heavily on motion. In fact, the Packers ran some form of motion on 596 plays last season, 10th-highest in the NFL, according to ESPN Stats & Information data. (The Jets were fifth at 639 plays.) The LaFleurs learned from San Francisco 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan, whose system is predicated on motion.

Many coaches believe motion makes it easier to read defenses and create favorable matchups, but Rodgers prefers a static approach because it enables him to go up-tempo whenever he wants. As evidence, he notes that Manning did it this way with the Indianapolis Colts. Chances are, Rodgers will get his way.

"We see (the game) through the same lens," Hackett said.

Rodgers' goal is to have everyone in the offensive room feel the same way.

this proves Bit and Fido correct that Rodgers is too old.  he's essentially acting as a coach.

[bitonti]

2 hours ago, C Mart said:

"That probably means less pre-snap motion.

One of his pet peeves with Matt LaFleur's system is that it relies heavily on motion. In fact, the Packers ran some form of motion on 596 plays last season, 10th-highest in the NFL, according to ESPN Stats & Information data. (The Jets were fifth at 639 plays.) The LaFleurs learned from San Francisco 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan, whose system is predicated on motion.

Many coaches believe motion makes it easier to read defenses and create favorable matchups, but Rodgers prefers a static approach because it enables him to go up-tempo whenever he wants. As evidence, he notes that Manning did it this way with the Indianapolis Colts. Chances are, Rodgers will get his way."

I remember reading Manning didn't want pre-snap motion because he wanted the D to remain just how he viewed them on tape.

i've heard this several times - like it's some sort of genius advantage they are using less motion

Bullsh*t.

people said the same thing when Schotty was fired.

in general, less motion is not a good thing 

motion lets the QB know if they are in Man or Zone

it takes a top receiver and motions him away from the top CB 

no motion means it's easier to play defense. 

There are many plays in Aaron Rodgers' history that benefitted from motion

Look at 30 seconds in for Adams vs Ramsey in Motion in the Playoffs for an example of what I'm talking about. That TD Doesn't happen without motion. 

 

 

[bitonti]

9 minutes ago, batman10023 said:

this proves Bit and Fido correct that Rodgers is too old.  he's essentially acting as a coach.

i'm happy that Rodgers brings this perspective to the locker room 

But he's physically declining and I don't have confidence he will make it through the season uninjured. 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

8 minutes ago, bitonti said:

i've heard this several times - like it's some sort of genius advantage they are using less motion

Bullsh*t.

people said the same thing when Schotty was fired.

in general, less motion is not a good thing 

motion lets the QB know if they are in Man or Zone

it takes a top receiver and motions him away from the top CB 

no motion means it's easier to play defense. 

There are many plays in Aaron Rodgers' history that benefitted from motion

Look at 30 seconds in for Adams vs Ramsey in Motion in the Playoffs for an example of what I'm talking about. That TD Doesn't happen without motion. 

 

 

Where does it say they will completely eliminate motion? LESS bit LESS. 

[Rich Thornburgh]

2 hours ago, rangerous said:

If Hackett didn’t have much to do with the Green Bay offense then why was he hired as the Denver head coach?   Hard to say how this will all turn out.  It all sounds good but just how different will the actual plays be than what most teams run? IMO they won’t. It’s all going to come down to execution.

The broncos aren’t exactly the model for how to run an organization currently 

[Doggin94it]

2 hours ago, C Mart said:

"That probably means less pre-snap motion.

One of his pet peeves with Matt LaFleur's system is that it relies heavily on motion. In fact, the Packers ran some form of motion on 596 plays last season, 10th-highest in the NFL, according to ESPN Stats & Information data. (The Jets were fifth at 639 plays.) The LaFleurs learned from San Francisco 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan, whose system is predicated on motion.

Many coaches believe motion makes it easier to read defenses and create favorable matchups, but Rodgers prefers a static approach because it enables him to go up-tempo whenever he wants. As evidence, he notes that Manning did it this way with the Indianapolis Colts. Chances are, Rodgers will get his way."

I remember reading Manning didn't want pre-snap motion because he wanted the D to remain just how he viewed them on tape.

Pre-snap motion is a really terrific tool for getting the D to reveal what it intends to do, which makes it great for helping QBs decode what they're facing and decide where they want to go with the ball.

That's not something Rodgers particularly needs help with, though.

[bitonti]

13 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

Where does it say they will completely eliminate motion? LESS bit LESS. 

LESS, ZERO whatever you call it that's not an advantage.

to make the offense simpler isn't going to help the offense score points 

it's something they tell people in the offseason and we all accept it like the dum dums we are 

This idea that all the problems were to blame on MLF is wishful thinking 

pro offenses use motion that's why it's pro not Pee wee 

[Augustiniak]

24 minutes ago, Doggin94it said:

Pre-snap motion is a really terrific tool for getting the D to reveal what it intends to do, which makes it great for helping QBs decode what they're facing and decide where they want to go with the ball.

That's not something Rodgers particularly needs help with, though.

I may be wrong but i think Brady didn’t love it either.  Elite qbs who know what’s going on want everything as is b/c they believe they have the advantage

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

28 minutes ago, bitonti said:

LESS, ZERO whatever you call it that's not an advantage.

to make the offense simpler isn't going to help the offense score points 

it's something they tell people in the offseason and we all accept it like the dum dums we are 

This idea that all the problems were to blame on MLF is wishful thinking 

pro offenses use motion that's why it's pro not Pee wee 

Mmk. I'm gonna go with Aaron Rodgers on this one, thank you though.

[LockeJET]

2 hours ago, rangerous said:

If Hackett didn’t have much to do with the Green Bay offense then why was he hired as the Denver head coach?   Hard to say how this will all turn out.  It all sounds good but just how different will the actual plays be than what most teams run? IMO they won’t. It’s all going to come down to execution.

You mean we have to actually execute the plays? Are you sure about this?

[Trotter]

3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

You new to the NFL or something?  Offensive Coordinators get peter principled into HC jobs all the time when none of the credit belongs to them.  

The Richie Kotite principal?

[Doggin94it]

1 hour ago, bitonti said:

LESS, ZERO whatever you call it that's not an advantage.

to make the offense simpler isn't going to help the offense score points 

it's something they tell people in the offseason and we all accept it like the dum dums we are 

This idea that all the problems were to blame on MLF is wishful thinking 

pro offenses use motion that's why it's pro not Pee wee 

You're confusing "things that are an advantage for some QBs" with "things that are an advantage for all QBs"

Pre-snap motion is an aid in reading defenses. Like almost everything else in life it comes with tradeoffs (such as the impact on tempo). Those tradeoffs are going to be more or less worth it depending on how much help the QB needs reading defenses. For a QB who isn't great at that without the cues provided by motion, the tradeoffs are definitely worth it. For a QB who is already excellent at reading defenses and doesn't much need the motion to do that, it isn't adding much value most of the time.

[Larz]

1 hour ago, bitonti said:

i've heard this several times - like it's some sort of genius advantage they are using less motion

Bullsh*t.

people said the same thing when Schotty was fired.

in general, less motion is not a good thing 

motion lets the QB know if they are in Man or Zone

it takes a top receiver and motions him away from the top CB 

no motion means it's easier to play defense. 

There are many plays in Aaron Rodgers' history that benefitted from motion

Look at 30 seconds in for Adams vs Ramsey in Motion in the Playoffs for an example of what I'm talking about. That TD Doesn't happen without motion. 

 

 

Rodgers and Manning or Bitonti?

[rangerous]

1 hour ago, LockeJET said:

You mean we have to actually execute the plays? Are you sure about this?

nothing like a little sarcasm.

[rangerous]

2 hours ago, bitonti said:

i've heard this several times - like it's some sort of genius advantage they are using less motion

Bullsh*t.

people said the same thing when Schotty was fired.

in general, less motion is not a good thing 

motion lets the QB know if they are in Man or Zone

it takes a top receiver and motions him away from the top CB 

no motion means it's easier to play defense. 

There are many plays in Aaron Rodgers' history that benefitted from motion

Look at 30 seconds in for Adams vs Ramsey in Motion in the Playoffs for an example of what I'm talking about. That TD Doesn't happen without motion. 

 

 

i can't say that i know if motion works or not.  but i do know that motion or no motion if the team doesn't execute the play won't work.  unless it's one of schitty's putting three receivers a yard short of the first down marker or milfy having receivers run routes where they bump into each other or can be covered by a single defender.

[batman10023]

2 hours ago, bitonti said:

i'm happy that Rodgers brings this perspective to the locker room 

But he's physically declining and I don't have confidence he will make it through the season uninjured. 

declining is better than your boy Jimmy G who has already declined!