oatmeal Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 18 minutes ago, Maynard13 said: Wow cant believe this. A totally lost season from teh onset and we still get 7 Wins. How can this sh*tty team have won 7 games. They should have lost today, against the Giants, against the Texans, against the Bills, against the Eagles, against Wash. At best they should have won only 2-3 games and had the 2nd pick. Morons. “bUt wE bEaT biLL” 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 On 1/1/2024 at 6:47 PM, neckdemon said: yeah i miscounted. worst is 12. thnx The Jets took AVT at #14, Jermaine Johnson at #26, Breece Hall at #36. Undoubtedly, three of the best young players on the team. Honestly, it has rarely mattered where the Jets pick. They took Zach and Becton higher than all those guys and now they’re looking to move on from both those players. If JD can’t find a player at #12 to help this team then screw ‘em. It won’t in the slightest be due to their draft position IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 If we would’ve had one more meaningless win in 2020 we don’t end up with ZW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extmenace Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, jetstream23 said: The Jets took AVT at #14, Jermaine Johnson at #26, Breece Hall at #36. Undoubtedly, three of the best young players on the team. Honestly, it has rarely mattered where they pick. They took Zach and Becton higher than all those guys and now they’re looking to move on from both those players. If JD can’t find a player at #12 to help this team then screw ‘em. It won’t in the slightest be due to their draft position IMO. This. There will be a difference maker at 12. It just comes down to making the right pick. Not every elite player is drafted in the top 5, actually most elite players aren’t taken that high. There may also be a trade down opportunity at 12. The opportunity to get better will be there, it’s up to JD to make it happen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said: If we would’ve had one more meaningless win in 2020 we don’t end up with ZW Yeah and Trevor Lawrence would probably be out of the league to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 9 months ago the Jets took Will McDonald at #15. We watched WR’s Zay Flowers and Jordan Addison go at #22 and #23. I wish the JETS had drafted later last year. Maybe they would have been forced to “settle” for one of those guys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 5 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: The Jets took AVT at #14, Jermaine Johnson at #26, Breece Hall at #36. Undoubtedly, three of the best young players on the team. Honestly, it has rarely mattered where the Jets pick. They took Zach and Becton higher than all those guys and now they’re looking to move on from both those players. If JD can’t find a player at #12 to help this team then screw ‘em. It won’t in the slightest be due to their draft position IMO. 2 minutes ago, extmenace said: This. There will be a difference maker at 12. It just comes down to making the right pick. Not every elite player is drafted in the top 5, actually most elite players aren’t taken that high. There may also be a trade down opportunity at 12. The opportunity to get better will be there, it’s up to JD to make it happen. Cope city. Statistically your odds of landing a blue chip player are significantly higher the higher you pick. Falling out of the top ten is a disaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Where are we at now? 9 as long the Bears and Raiders win, 11 if they don’t? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I’m not really devastated about dropping further in the draft, pretty much gave up on that after the Washington game. MHJ across from Garrett with Breece in the backfield would’ve been franchise changing. Just wasn’t to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, extmenace said: This. There will be a difference maker at 12. It just comes down to making the right pick. Not every elite player is drafted in the top 5, actually most elite players aren’t taken that high. There may also be a trade down opportunity at 12. The opportunity to get better will be there, it’s up to JD to make it happen. This is a bad team on offense. There will undoubtedly be players available in the 20’s, 30’s, 40’s that will upgrade the roster. Whether it’s an OT, WR, OG, etc. it’s simply about picking the right guys, not where the Jets pick. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Can you believe that the ravens think that drafting in the 20s every year is a sustainable way to win ? suckers. The thing to do is lose. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, Larz said: Can you believe that the ravens think that drafting in the 20s every year is a sustainable way to win ? suckers. The thing to do is lose. They have a competent coaching staff that develops players. So do the Steelers and Packers. We need guys who are great right away because this regime is incapable of coaching players up. 🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, Larz said: Can you believe that the ravens think that drafting in the 20s every year is a sustainable way to win ? suckers. The thing to do is lose. They are picking there becasue they are good with a good coach and good gm. We stink all year long when it counts and lose multiple games we should win and then compound it by wining late . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Is the Brock Bowers dream still alive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 The Jets have consistently drafted high with inordinately poor results. They’ve flopped on 3 different QBs in the Top 5 of the Draft with three different GMs in the past 20 years. They’ve found better guys at 14, 26, 36 than they did at 2, 3, 5, 11, etc. They left better guys on the board again last year at #15 who at this point would have been very, very helpful to have on offense (Zay Flowers, Smith-Njigba, Jordan Addison, La Porta, etc.) To be clear, I do think Will McDonald will become a good starter here eventually. But he wasn’t the right pick. Good teams succeed no matter where they pick. It’s about the PICKER and the coaches….not the Draft position. JMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Is the Brock Bowers dream still alive? As alive as the Sam LaPorta dream was last year. 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 24 minutes ago, PS17 said: Cope city. Statistically your odds of landing a blue chip player are significantly higher the higher you pick. Falling out of the top ten is a disaster. You may be right overall from a simplistic view. Like drafting #5 is better than drafting at #30. But you're not considering the difference between 6-12 is fairly minor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 47 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: The Jets took Becton at #11…..but AVT at #14 They took Zach at #2….but Jermaine Johnson at #26 When it comes to where the Jets Draft…. I mean yeah. But you pick high enough you can also trade down for an enormous package. Other than 2021….We’re never even in position to do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 5 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: The Jets have consistently drafted high with inordinately poor results. They’ve flopped on 3 different QBs in the Top 5 of the Draft with three different GMs in the past 20 years. They’ve found better guys at 14, 26, 36 than they did at 2, 3, 5, 11, etc. They left better guys on the board again last year at #15 who at this point would have been very, very helpful to have on offense (Zay Flowers, Smith-Njigba, Jordan Addison, La Porta, etc.) To be clear, I do think Will McDonald will become a good starter here eventually. But he wasn’t the right pick. Good teams succeed no matter where they pick. It’s about the PICKER and the coaches….not the Draft position. JMHO. Forget about results. The draft is all i have left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Looking away from the Jets for a second, from NFL.com : assuming Washington lose, they'll clinch #2 pick if either Chicago OR Denver lose. So ... go Raiders??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Just now, JTJet said: You may be right overall from a simplistic view. Like drafting #5 is better than drafting at #30. But you're not considering the difference between 6-12 is fairly minor. Handing the Pats MHJ was not minor though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 8 minutes ago, JTJet said: You may be right overall from a simplistic view. Like drafting #5 is better than drafting at #30. But you're not considering the difference between 6-12 is fairly minor. In this draft I think it’s pretty major. Off the top of my head there are eight players that are a cut above the rest of the class, and now we’re likely picking in no man’s land. Williams Maye Daniels Alt Fashanu Harrison Nabers Odunze 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 3 minutes ago, JTJet said: You may be right overall from a simplistic view. Like drafting #5 is better than drafting at #30. But you're not considering the difference between 6-12 is fairly minor. Depends on the year, and the guy making the picks. I’m terrified we’ll take a TE now, in this spot, because we whiffed on this past year’s great class. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 31 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: 9 months ago the Jets took Will McDonald at #15. We watched WR’s Zay Flowers and Jordan Addison go at #22 and #23. I wish the JETS had drafted later last year. Maybe they would have been forced to “settle” for one of those guys. We would have taken McDonald at 22 or 23. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 4 minutes ago, PS17 said: In this draft I think it’s pretty major. Off the top of my head there are eight players that are a cut above the rest of this class, and now we’re likely picking in no man’s land. As is tradition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 4 minutes ago, PS17 said: In this draft I think it’s pretty major. Off the top of my head there are eight players that are a cut above the rest of this class, and now we’re likely picking in no man’s land. Williams Maye Daniels Alt Fashanu Harrison Nabers Odunze This is assuming all those guys are picked ahead of us. That virtually never happens like we think it does. Teams fall in love with players up and down the board. I GUARANTEE that if we picked #5, everyone would be cursing that there's only 4 good players, or if we picked #7, that theres only 6 good players. This happens every year on the board no matter where we pick. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Just now, JTJet said: This is assuming all those guys are picked ahead of us. That virtually never happens like we think it does. Teams fall in love with players up and down the board. I GUARANTEE that if we picked #5, everyone would be cursing that there's only 4 good players, or if we picked #7, that theres only 6 good players. This happens every year on the board no matter where we pick. Yes, but I need something to complain about. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 9 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Handing the Pats MHJ was not minor though. Does it seem like a Patriots thing to do to take a WR at 2? I bet they trade it down for a haul, stock up on picks for a new coach to have ammo for a few years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Just now, JTJet said: Does it seem like a Patriots thing to do to take a WR at 2? I bet they trade it down for a haul, stock up on picks for a new coach to have ammo for a few years. Assuming BB is gone they’re going qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 4 minutes ago, JTJet said: Does it seem like a Patriots thing to do to take a WR at 2? I bet they trade it down for a haul, stock up on picks for a new coach to have ammo for a few years. Either option is terrifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Assuming Washington lose, NE may still be at #3 anyway, and all the hand wringing about us handing NE the #2 pick will be for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 27 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Is the Brock Bowers dream still alive? I think the Chargers might take him but I would have no issues with Bowers being a Jet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 46 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: 9 months ago the Jets took Will McDonald at #15. We watched WR’s Zay Flowers and Jordan Addison go at #22 and #23. I wish the JETS had drafted later last year. Maybe they would have been forced to “settle” for one of those guys. My biggest issue was dropping back two sports and losing out on the tackle. Unless someone falls we don’t expect I would mind reading back a little recouping our second. Like you said you can find good players in the teens early 20’s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 So happy to help the Patriots. I love the Jets and their inability to do anything right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 12 minutes ago, JTJet said: This is assuming all those guys are picked ahead of us. That virtually never happens like we think it does. Teams fall in love with players up and down the board. I GUARANTEE that if we picked #5, everyone would be cursing that there's only 4 good players, or if we picked #7, that theres only 6 good players. This happens every year on the board no matter where we pick. True. Damned if you do damned if you don’t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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