rbstern Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 I know this topic and been killed a bunch here, but I'm solidifying my thinking and wanted to share it. If an elite skill player like Bowsers or one of the top WRs (even MHJ) are on the board at 10, it's going to be really hard to pass those guys up. But I believe the Jets have to. IMHO, the offseason strategy should be: - Legit #2 WR via free agency - Legit tackle (ideally left, but either side acceptable) via free agency - #1 pick used on either one of the two elite OL prospects, if they fall that far, or possible trade back to get a lower 1st and a 2nd or 3rd, all to be used on quality O-line prospects. - If M.Bechton is available cheap enough, sign him to a 1 to 2 year deal, as depth; I still think there's a quality tackle somewhere in that #77. The TE group is good enough, if the OL blocks well for Rodgers; I think Rucker will eventually be the #1. The WR group is good enough, assuming a quality #2. Hopefully Gipson and Brownlee continue to develop into quality 4s and 5s, and Rodgers wakes Lazard up from the whatever-induced haze he was in in 2023, as the #3. No help needed in the backfield. Get a promising UDFA for the #3 RB spot. Sign a quality QB #2, but don't kid yourself: 2024 season goes nowhere without Rodgers and the above strategy. All of this hinges on Rodgers. If the Jets believe in 2024 like they did 2023, build the cast around him. Run it back, but don't pussy foot about the o-line issues. If you don't believe in Rodgers, then take BPA with #10, including potentially a QB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Becton is gone so just put that dream to bed. I could see them signing yosh nijman but not sure about any real number 2 wr signing Fwiw the Jets are linked to Brissett as a qb2 which makes total sense Because he's good enough that the seasons not over when he plays but not young or talented enough to be any threat to Aaron Rodgers Honestly it's hard to imagine a scenario where the Jets are real contenders next year, no matter what happens this offseason. This might be the earliest I've checked out on a season. Aaron Rodgers is going to play poorly because he's old and should be retired. That's the simplest outcome Anything beyond that feels like hoping for a miracle. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 While I'd be OK with a legit #2 WR in Free Agency, I think they should target someone who has #1 or near #1 potential: Pittman, Ridley or Higgins, And stay away from long term deals for Evans and Ridley who are both on the wrong side of 29. Legit Tackle? Have you seen the UFA Tackle UFA pool? The LT are 4 in number and all over 30 with injury questions. For RT maybe Jonah Williams or Jermain Eluemunor? The OT pool in this year's draft is deep. Find a starter and figure out the other OT from there. Becton at LT blocking for his BFF may work, who knows. I do feel like Carter Warren could become a long term starting RT. I think the Jets need to solidify interior of their line. The C pool is deep this year. Take the best C or G available in the 3d round and at least AVT, Tippmann and a rookie could hold down the middle. Regardless, the O line is not an easy fix and the answers are few and far between in free agency. The TE group is not good enough. The Jets need a receiving TE, Someone with real WR skills who can run with the ball after the catch. If they can't draft one, perhaps look to sign Dalton Shultz or Noah Fant in free agency. Help is definitely needed in the backfield. The Jets are one injury from a disaster. The drop off from Hall to an unproven 2d year RB is enormous. Perhaps an affordable and short yardage specialist like Gus Edwards, or my preference - Brealen Allen in the draft. Even a high character guy like Blake Corrum could work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 I think the grim reality is that the Jets have an elderly HOF QB to put to use over the next two seasons, but too many holes and issues with the rest of the roster to plug them in one off season with limited cap space and no second round draft pick. Unless JD decides to completely mortgage the future like the Rams did a few years ago. that may happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 32 minutes ago, bitonti said: Becton is gone so just put that dream to bed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 A strategy would be nice, yeah. Any strategy really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 The offseason strategy... "Hey, Aaron, what's the strategy?... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Find a starting T in Round 1 Sign Bakhtiari/LT-pay for game started Find a starting G in Round 3 Sign 2 WRs in FA-1A and 2/3. Mosley,.JFM and Tomlinson give money back to sign new players. If they don’t agree, cut them. QB2 costs $5mm or less Assistant Coaches-Mangold (OL), Chrebet (WR). New Strength and Conditioning Coaches. Trade Zach Wilson for whatever it takes to assume his contract. Huff walks and we get a comp pick. Replace MetLife Turf with something players don’t complain about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 16 minutes ago, varjet said: Find a starting T in Round 1 Sign Bakhtiari/LT-pay for game started Find a starting G in Round 3 Sign 2 WRs in FA-1A and 2/3. Mosley,.JFM and Tomlinson give money back to sign new players. If they don’t agree, cut them. QB2 costs $5mm or less Assistant Coaches-Mangold (OL), Chrebet (WR). New Strength and Conditioning Coaches. Trade Zach Wilson for whatever it takes to assume his contract. Huff walks and we get a comp pick. Replace MetLife Turf with something players don’t complain about. Chrebet is not well I remember reading otherwise hell yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, bitonti said: Becton is gone so just put that dream to bed. I could see them signing yosh nijman but not sure about any real number 2 wr signing Fwiw the Jets are linked to Brissett as a qb2 which makes total sense Because he's good enough that the seasons not over when he plays but not young or talented enough to be any threat to Aaron Rodgers Honestly it's hard to imagine a scenario where the Jets are real contenders next year, no matter what happens this offseason. This might be the earliest I've checked out on a season. Aaron Rodgers is going to play poorly because he's old and should be retired. That's the simplest outcome Anything beyond that feels like hoping for a miracle. I actually think they will try to resign Becton and with AR help (Becton Mom luv she some AR) they have a good chance of resigning him. Face it beggars cannot be choosers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Don't get your hopes up. The Jets are going to formulate their plan. They will try to follow it. Even if it doesn't go as planned, they'll tell us it was the plan. All of which wont matter until we see wins and losses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 2 hours ago, bitonti said: Fwiw the Jets are linked to Brissett as a qb2 which makes total sense Why do you think it makes sense? Not to say Brissett isn't a very good backup QB, but system wise, I'm not sure he'd be a great fit. My money is on low-cost Siemian being resigned on the belief that if Rodgers goes down we're tanking for a QB in 2025 picked by a new GM/HC combo anyway... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 OT, OG, C, OG, OT 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 2 hours ago, bitonti said: Becton is gone so just put that dream to bed. I could see them signing yosh nijman but not sure about any real number 2 wr signing Fwiw the Jets are linked to Brissett as a qb2 which makes total sense Because he's good enough that the seasons not over when he plays but not young or talented enough to be any threat to Aaron Rodgers Honestly it's hard to imagine a scenario where the Jets are real contenders next year, no matter what happens this offseason. This might be the earliest I've checked out on a season. Aaron Rodgers is going to play poorly because he's old and should be retired. That's the simplest outcome Anything beyond that feels like hoping for a miracle. Disagree but we’ll see. The whole O plays better if Rodgers is in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 19 hours ago, bitonti said: This might be the earliest I've checked out on a season. Aaron Rodgers is going to play poorly because he's old and should be retired. That's the simplest outcome Perhaps I am an eternal optimist, but that would be a lie. While I don't have the same expectations as this past season, I can see how the Jets could end up sneaking into the playoffs, if they can shore up some deficiencies, and Rodgers plays like a top 20 Quarterback. I am far away from checking out on the 2024 season right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 18 hours ago, SickJetFan said: I actually think they will try to resign Becton and with AR help (Becton Mom luv she some AR) they have a good chance of resigning him. Face it beggars cannot be choosers. As long as we actually draft a good prospect in the 1st or 2nd (in the chance we recoup our 2nd rounder) round then I am okay with Becton being a "hold the fort guy" .... just not interested in him as the long-term plan at LT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 20 hours ago, rbstern said: I know this topic and been killed a bunch here, but I'm solidifying my thinking and wanted to share it. If an elite skill player like Bowsers or one of the top WRs (even MHJ) are on the board at 10, it's going to be really hard to pass those guys up. But I believe the Jets have to. IMHO, the offseason strategy should be: - Legit #2 WR via free agency - Legit tackle (ideally left, but either side acceptable) via free agency - #1 pick used on either one of the two elite OL prospects, if they fall that far, or possible trade back to get a lower 1st and a 2nd or 3rd, all to be used on quality O-line prospects. - If M.Bechton is available cheap enough, sign him to a 1 to 2 year deal, as depth; I still think there's a quality tackle somewhere in that #77. The TE group is good enough, if the OL blocks well for Rodgers; I think Rucker will eventually be the #1. The WR group is good enough, assuming a quality #2. Hopefully Gipson and Brownlee continue to develop into quality 4s and 5s, and Rodgers wakes Lazard up from the whatever-induced haze he was in in 2023, as the #3. No help needed in the backfield. Get a promising UDFA for the #3 RB spot. Sign a quality QB #2, but don't kid yourself: 2024 season goes nowhere without Rodgers and the above strategy. All of this hinges on Rodgers. If the Jets believe in 2024 like they did 2023, build the cast around him. Run it back, but don't pussy foot about the o-line issues. If you don't believe in Rodgers, then take BPA with #10, including potentially a QB. i think the conventional wisdom has the jets looking for tackle and wr in the draft along with more oline depth. but maybe they should also consider a guy like penix if he's available. he hasn't been mentioned as one of the top three qb's coming out and he may be the right guy to pick and sit behind rodgers for a season or two. they need to be thinking about a qb post rodgers and if there's one there, not a bad idea to grab. they can use free agency to pick up a tackle or two. and penix, if he does get drafted will actually help the oline situation because he's left handed and needs to have a better right tackle than left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extmenace Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 For the guys saying that we should attack the WR weakness in free agency, trying to sign guys like Ridley, Evans, Pittman, or Higgins, don’t hold your breath. Higgins, Ridley, and Pittman are going for their first new contracts. They should have their eyes set on not only maximizing that opportunity, but also putting themselves in a spot where they can compile stats, and have a shot at a 3rd big deal. When looking at offers, this team will be put very low on most of the top tier free agent WR lists. A guy like Mike Evans, career is winding down, he’s getting what should be his final big deal and should be eyeing teams that can pay him but also be competitive with an established qb. We aren’t really an ideal destination for WR talent, even if Rodgers is healthy. Rodgers hasn’t had a 300 yard passing game since 2021. Call me negative, call me being realistic, but that’s what I’m seeing. We’re going to have a much better shot at attracting offensive linemen in free agency and then addressing the WR2 issue in the first round or trading for Adams. If the Adams deal doesn’t materialize, I see this team realistically settling on a fringe WR 2/3 like a Tyler boyd or Curtis Samuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 21 hours ago, bitonti said: Becton is gone so just put that dream to bed. I could see them signing yosh nijman but not sure about any real number 2 wr signing Fwiw the Jets are linked to Brissett as a qb2 which makes total sense Because he's good enough that the seasons not over when he plays but not young or talented enough to be any threat to Aaron Rodgers Honestly it's hard to imagine a scenario where the Jets are real contenders next year, no matter what happens this offseason. This might be the earliest I've checked out on a season. Aaron Rodgers is going to play poorly because he's old and should be retired. That's the simplest outcome Anything beyond that feels like hoping for a miracle. when did you check out this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 3 hours ago, Adoni Beast said: As long as we actually draft a good prospect in the 1st or 2nd (in the chance we recoup our 2nd rounder) round then I am okay with Becton being a "hold the fort guy" .... just not interested in him as the long-term plan at LT. I do not think either side will look to sign any long-term contract 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I’m not sure there’s a WR hitting free agency that’s going to be a #2 caliber player. The big name guys are likely to re-sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68JET11 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 The next 2 years are Key... Don't want to mortgage the future seeing as we did that a bit for AR8, but AR8 will be here only 2, maybe 3 more years so we need to have a killer offseason, and draft. In these next 2 years, we need to draft OL, WR and find a QB that will learn from AR8. I don't want to see but maybe 1 defensive player taken in each of the next 2 drafts. We should focus on getting them via FA. The most important thing is to get young guys that will be in the offense for at least the 4-5 years of their first contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 1/18/2024 at 5:18 PM, varjet said: Unless JD decides to completely mortgage the future like the Rams did a few years ago. that may happen. I had to laugh at the concept of the Jets “mortgaging the future”, like they could do worse than the last 10 years where they didn’t? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I heard the Jets have new unis as their strategy ... or so i've been told. #winning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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