Hael Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 I’m going to assume Rogers plays at the level of his last year in Gb. If so he, would be around 6th or 7th. Mahomes/Burrows/Herbert/Allen/Lamar are better than he is at this stage in his career. Stroud and Lawrence aren’t yet, but Stroud will be soon (possibly this year at some point). Watson could have a comeback year, in which case he would also be above (his best year in Texas was better than Rogers last). Overall, thats more than good enough to get us deep into the playoffs given the team we have (I continue to think we would have been an early exit playoff team last year as well) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 7 hours ago, Warfish said: For various reasons, I'd prefer to be going into 2024 with: 1. Mahomes 2. Herbert 3. Burrows 4. Jackson 5. Tagovailoa 6. Allen 7. Stroud 8. Any of the 2024 Draft Pick QB's, Williams, Maye, Daniels, McCarthy, Penix. I am not of the belief that Rodgers will win anything meaningful in NY. A "save the gM" long-shot trade, an all-in that has (and IMO likely will) fail to deliver the goods. So the QB list above reflects current AFC stars I'd rather have (Mahomes et al.) as well as young QB's with what would appear or potentially could be long futures ahead of them of high level play. We're in purgatory at QB. Tied to Rodgers for likely as long as his ego demands he play, for better or worse. But in fairness, when it comes to the Jets, extreme cynicism is my default setting, so nothing new here. 1-7 I couldn’t agree more. 8? Might as read Zach Wilson, Zach Wilson, Zach Wilson. Because if Douglas picks a QB that’s the one we are getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Rodgers is a strange case because he's the last of the "old breed" of QBs (Brady, Manning & Brees): Negatives - Since Rodgers is 40 he's not as fast/athletic as the others - His age makes him susceptible to injury Positives - His 20 years of experience makes him smarter than the others - His arm talent is as good or better than anyone - He's the on field OC which allows him to control/change the offense. The others basically are "robots" running what was phoned in from the sidelines If the revamped OLine does their job there's no reason he won't be top 2-3 in the conference 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Another horse sh*t topic aimed at defending Slappy Wilson. I know where he would be ranked. Last.I had to reread the OP three times to confirm that Wilson's name was never mentioned nor alluded to. What did you see that set you off? Tuscany's avatar ? Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 3 hours ago, Hael said: I’m going to assume Rogers plays at the level of his last year in Gb. If so he, would be around 6th or 7th. Mahomes/Burrows/Herbert/Allen/Lamar are better than he is at this stage in his career. Stroud and Lawrence aren’t yet, but Stroud will be soon (possibly this year at some point). Watson could have a comeback year, in which case he would also be above (his best year in Texas was better than Rogers last). Overall, thats more than good enough to get us deep into the playoffs given the team we have (I continue to think we would have been an early exit playoff team last year as well) we won like 7 games last year, think with a healthy rodgers and even a slightly better OL we would have won the WC round (in my opinion) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 13 hours ago, bicketybam said: Another horse sh*t topic aimed at defending Slappy Wilson. I know where he would be ranked. Last. Wilson, Rodgers or Both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warfish Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 42 minutes ago, batman10023 said: we won like 7 games last year, think with a healthy rodgers and even a slightly better OL we would have won the WC round (in my opinion) "We woulda, shoulda, coulda been (insert great team thing here) if only (insert one of many failed players/units/coaches) and (insert another failed played/unit) and (yup, same) had only been (better/healthier/smarter/etc.)" Well yeah, if our many abject failures hadn't happened, we might have been better. And if my grandmother had wheels she'd be a wagon. If my aunt had balls, she's be my uncle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JustInFudge Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Lawrence sucks. The big challengers in the AFC not on this list is the Steelers. They won 10 games w/ arguably worse QB'ing then the NY Jets had and they just traded for a dynamo-superstar who is more than likely going to lead them to a Super Bowl or 2 in the next 5 years and as predicted is better than Lawrence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1a) Mahomes 1b) Rodgers 2) Burrow 3a) Jackson 3b) Allen 4) Stroud 5) Herbert 6) Lawrence 1 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 14 hours ago, The Crusher said: If the Hindenburgh didn’t go up in flames and crash to the ground I wonder how high it would go. Didnt it crash in Pittsburg? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 He might/would beat our Trevor Lawrence most likely but that's it from that list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 The people who think Aaron is still elite are tripping balls He's a baker Mayfield at this point, top 20 in the league if we're lucky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 If Rodgers picks up where he left off and gets at least average protection, he is as good a passer as anyone. I would still give Mahomes the clear edge for mobility but Rodgers in his prime (which was as recently as two years ago) is as good or better than anyone else. Now I have no idea what we will actually get after a year off, but there's reason to be optimistic if he looks sharp in TC. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 36 minutes ago, nycdan said: If Rodgers picks up where he left off and gets at least average protection, he is as good a passer as anyone. I would still give Mahomes the clear edge for mobility but Rodgers in his prime (which was as recently as two years ago) is as good or better than anyone else. Now I have no idea what we will actually get after a year off, but there's reason to be optimistic if he looks sharp in TC. Left off? Where he left off was being a middle of the pack at best QB his last year in green bay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 9 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Left off? Where he left off was being a middle of the pack at best QB his last year in green bay. You mean when he played with a broken thumb in his throwing hand and had rookie Christian Watson as his #1 WR? Have you ever tried throwing a football with a broken thumb? When he was healthy the previous 2 years with Davante Adams to throw to he was league MVP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: You mean when he played with a broken thumb in his throwing hand and had rookie Christian Watson as his #1 WR? Have you ever tried throwing a football with a broken thumb? this tired excuse might be true it's also a sign that old people break their thumbs and tear their achillies at a higher rate than young guys what is the realistic chance of Aaron Rodgers playing a full season? Like 50% maybe? where would Vegas set the over under? around 11.5 and take all the Jets fans money when he plays 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 2 minutes ago, bitonti said: this tired excuse might be true it's also a sign that old people break their thumbs and tear their achillies at a higher rate than young guys what is the realistic chance of Aaron Rodgers playing a full season? Like 50% maybe? where would Vegas set the over under? around 11.5 and take all the Jets fans money when he plays 8 His ability to stay healthy is a legit concern. The premise of the thread is in fact "if Rodgers stays healthy". So that's not relevant to my response. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: His ability to stay healthy is a legit concern. The premise of the thread is in fact "if Rodgers stays healthy" why even live in that fantasy world? if my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 I find it funny how many lists leave Tua, one of the best passers in the NFL the past two years, off the lists completely. Talk about over-looking an opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Truth is, no one really knows. Until Rodgers steps on the field and demonstrates where he's at, we'll continue to be bombarded with empty speculation from those who think he's Dorian Grey and those who think he's at the brink of dementia. Not one person here knows what Rodgers can or cannot do. None. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 10 minutes ago, bitonti said: why even live in that fantasy world? if my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike feel free to try another thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 minute ago, Long Island Leprechaun said: ..................we'll continue to be bombarded with empty speculation from those who think he's Dorian Grey and those who think he's at the brink of dementia. Not one person here knows what Rodgers can or cannot do. None. Oscar Wilde references might be a little much for this crowd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 minute ago, Warfish said: Oscar Wilde references might be a little much for this crowd. I wanted to reference "The Deadly Years" from the original Star Trek, but half the posters on here seem to have been born decades after that show was on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, bitonti said: The people who think Aaron is still elite are tripping balls He's a baker Mayfield at this point, top 20 in the league if we're lucky I’d sign for Baker’s production from last season. That would be the best NYJ QB season we’ve had since Fitz in 2015. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 The short, obvious answer is "we don't know." Those saying he's rinsed don't know. Those saying he's elite don't know. We just need to wait and see (and hope.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 36 minutes ago, Warfish said: I find it funny how many lists leave Tua, one of the best passers in the NFL the past two years, off the lists completely. Talk about over-looking an opponent. Because everyone knows he's a fraud who isn't a real threat in big games against tough teams. He's a very efficient and accurate thrower who who has an injury history and who always chokes and stinks against good defenses, in tough weather, in the playoffs etc. He's this generations Chad Pennington. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 14 minutes ago, slimjasi said: I’d sign for Baker’s production from last season. That would be the best NYJ QB season we’ve had since Fitz in 2015. I would too but saying he's better than burrow? And Lamar? Ridiculous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 I'm torn between who's 1 and 2 with Rodgers or Allen when healthy. Tua is 3rd for me and whoever is NEQB will be 4th. Rodgers I do think will have the better season. That's a lot to do with that we just IMO have a better roster on offense than BUF does. Allen's running ability closes that gap though and make it where it's hard to really for sure put one at 1 or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 4 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: You mean when he played with a broken thumb in his throwing hand and had rookie Christian Watson as his #1 WR? Have you ever tried throwing a football with a broken thumb? When he was healthy the previous 2 years with Davante Adams to throw to he was league MVP. Jordan love had about the same crop of young unproven wrs and did far better this year. Broken thumb, achilles but no worries about a 40 year old qb breaking down. As I've said repeatedly, what aaron rodgers did 3 years ago is totally 100% irrelevant. 40 years old, a full year off football, back to back injured seasons, his last full season was mediocre but of course he is the only qb to have and injury as an excuse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 24 minutes ago, Long Island Leprechaun said: Truth is, no one really knows. Until Rodgers steps on the field and demonstrates where he's at, we'll continue to be bombarded with empty speculation from those who think he's Dorian Grey and those who think he's at the brink of dementia. Not one person here knows what Rodgers can or cannot do. None. Bingo. Do we get 93/94 Montana in KC? 2020 Brady in Tampa? 77 Namath in LA? Something in between? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, bitonti said: why even live in that fantasy world? if my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike Lotta people rode your grandmother, huh? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 minute ago, Doggin94it said: Lotta people rode your grandmother, huh? Ok, who hacked Doggin94it's account? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: Ok, who hacked Doggin94it's account? LOL. Sorry, I've always hated that phrase 😄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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