Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted Monday at 08:52 PM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 08:52 PM 15 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: When you play like Zach Wilson.. you get benched. To Carolina’s credit at least they benched Young quicker than the Jets benched Zach, lol. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted Monday at 08:55 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:55 PM @Week 3 of Zach Wilson's career... in the meantime... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted Monday at 09:26 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:26 PM 30 minutes ago, Bronx said: @Week 3 of Zach Wilson's career... in the meantime... And, amazingly, there are still people who think Zach Wilson is secretly good. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKlecko Posted Monday at 09:29 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:29 PM 1 hour ago, Darnold's Forehead said: This is the worst trade in NFL history. Nah, it's the second worst. The Saints traded ALL of their 1999 draft picks (1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th & 7th) plus 2 of their top 3 picks (1st and 3rd) in the 2000 draft for Ricky Williams. That ended Mike Ditka's coaching career. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted Monday at 09:31 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:31 PM 1 hour ago, Darnold's Forehead said: This is the worst trade in NFL history. 2 minutes ago, JKlecko said: Nah, it's the second worst. The Saints traded ALL of their 1999 draft picks (1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th & 7th) plus 2 of their top 3 picks (1st and 3rd) in the 2000 draft for Ricky Williams. That ended Mike Ditka's coaching career. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKlecko Posted Monday at 09:32 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:32 PM 2 hours ago, Bungaman said: It even gets Mike Ditka off the hook for first place with the Ricky Williams trade. I respectfully disagree. Actually, I had forgotten about the Herschel Walker trade from the Cowboys to the Vikings. It was the worst and very complex. The Vikings received Walker and 4 late-round draft picks. In return, they initially gave up RB Darrin Nelson as part of the trade, but he refused to play for the Cowboys so was traded to the Chargers, and the Vikings received a 5th round pick for Nelson. They gave up 4 veteran players (LBs Jesse Solomon and David Howard, CB Isaac Holt, and DE Alex Stewart), and 3 draft picks, but there were conditional draft picks attached to these 4 players with the understanding that if the Cowboys cut any of them, but with the veteran players, there was an agreement that if the Cowboys wound up cutting any of the veterans before the start of the season, they would receive high draft picks in return. Jimmy Johnson had planned to cut all those players and wind up with more draft picks, and he wound up with 13 future draft picks (including 3-1sts, 3-2nds, a 3rd and a 6th). With those picks, they built their dynasty. With four of those picks they took Emmit Smith (HOF), and All-Pros Darren Woodson and Russell Maryland, and Jimmy Smith. The Saints trade for Williams was the #2 worst trade. The Saints gave up their entire 1999 draft (1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, & 7th round picks, and their 1st and 3rd round picks in 2000. Giving up one's whole draft class for one player is just nuts. I think the Panthers trade with the Bears was horrendous, and close to the Williams trade, but the Herschel Walker trade was the worst. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted Monday at 09:33 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:33 PM 39 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: To Carolina’s credit at least they benched Young quicker than the Jets benched Zach, lol. And they did it the opposite way. We replaced a ginger with Zach. They replaced Bryce with a ginger. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted Monday at 09:34 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:34 PM 1 minute ago, JKlecko said: I respectfully disagree. I think the Saints trade for Williams was worse. Honorable mention to the Deshaun Watson trade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted Monday at 09:37 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:37 PM 3 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Strange that he got 2 games with a brand new offense. They must really hate the guy. Now they will win 5 games with Dalton and ,iss out on the top pick to get a qb. Stupid. The QBs in this draft aren't very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted Monday at 09:39 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:39 PM 4 minutes ago, nycdan said: And they did it the opposite way. We replaced a ginger with Zach. They replaced Bryce with a ginger. Well there was a ginger before Bryce, so you could call it a GingerBryce sandwich. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted Monday at 09:41 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:41 PM Just now, Claymation said: Well there was a ginger before Bryce, so you could call it a GingerBryce sandwich. You're gonna want that one back in a few hours when you sober up, aren't you? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted Monday at 09:42 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:42 PM Just now, nycdan said: You're gonna want that one back in a few hours when you sober up, aren't you? I'm not in the sandwich, not that there is anything wrong with that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted Monday at 09:47 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:47 PM 3 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said: Fastest hook I've ever seen for a first overall pick. I liked him coming out of college but it's been really bad. Makes you wonder if he needed a better situation or if he's just too small to make it work. If you're in young's corner - this is probably a relief. It's too early to say the talent is a complete bust, but obviously a reboot is needed. As odds are favorite for the #1 pick next year, smart money is on Young getting traded or the Brees/Rivers scenario if Carolina is lucky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted Monday at 09:49 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:49 PM 1 minute ago, Paradis said: If you're in young's corner - this is probably a relief. It's too early to say the talent is a complete bust, but obviously a reboot is needed. As odds are favorite for the #1 pick next year, smart money is on Young getting traded or the Brees/Rivers scenario if Carolina is lucky I saw some speculation Miami could trade for Young if Tua retires (or even as insurance) and that’s probably the best case scenario for Young. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultraJETfan Posted Monday at 09:58 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:58 PM 3 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said: The current Panthers roster is worse than most/all of the Jets rosters of the previous decade. It would have been a miracle for a Youbg QB to blossom there. I wouldn’t hesitate to offer a mid round pick for young and let him sit behind AR for a year or two. You guys are insane if you think he can develop into an NFL QB. Some of you on here have wives that are bigger than Bryce. Will be spoken in the same breath as Jamarcus and Leaf for the rest of his life. Monumental fumble by Carolina choosing him over Stroud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted Monday at 10:00 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:00 PM I feel bad for him but it was the right move. He lost his confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungaman Posted Monday at 10:01 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:01 PM 1 minute ago, ultraJETfan said: Some of you on here have wives that are bigger than Bryce. Ruh roh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted Monday at 10:04 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:04 PM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKlecko Posted Monday at 10:12 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:12 PM Just now, JKlecko said: I respectfully disagree. Actually, I had forgotten about the Herschel Walker trade from the Cowboys to the Vikings. It was the worst and very complex. The Vikings received Walker and 4 late-round draft picks. In return, they initially gave up RB Darrin Nelson as part of the trade, but he refused to play for the Cowboys so was traded to the Chargers, and the Vikings received a 5th round pick for Nelson. They gave up 4 veteran players (LBs Jesse Solomon and David Howard, CB Isaac Holt, and DE Alex Stewart), and 3 draft picks, but there were conditional draft picks attached to these 4 players with the understanding that if the Cowboys cut any of them, but with the veteran players, there was an agreement that if the Cowboys wound up cutting any of the veterans before the start of the season, they would receive high draft picks in return. Jimmy Johnson had planned to cut all those players and wind up with more draft picks, and he wound up with 13 future draft picks (including 3-1sts, 3-2nds, a 3rd and a 6th). With those picks, they built their dynasty. With four of those picks they took Emmit Smith (HOF), and All-Pros Darren Woodson and Russell Maryland, and Jimmy Smith. The Saints trade for Williams was the #2 worst trade. The Saints gave up their entire 1999 draft (1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, & 7th round picks, and their 1st and 3rd round picks in 2000. Giving up one's whole draft class for one player is just nuts. I think the Panthers trade with the Bears was horrendous, and close to the Williams trade, but the Herschel Walker trade was the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKlecko Posted Monday at 10:13 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:13 PM 38 minutes ago, nycdan said: Honorable mention to the Deshaun Watson trade. Actually, I had forgotten about the Herschel Walker trade from the Cowboys to the Vikings. It was the worst and Jimmy Johnson completely fleeced the Vikings' GM Mike Lynn. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastMole Posted Monday at 10:18 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:18 PM 3 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said: should trade for Zach! Once bitten twice shy. Zach has learned his lesson about dysfunctional franchises and he is a free agent now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted Monday at 10:25 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:25 PM Zach Young 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold's Forehead Posted Monday at 10:27 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:27 PM 56 minutes ago, JKlecko said: Nah, it's the second worst. The Saints traded ALL of their 1999 draft picks (1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th & 7th) plus 2 of their top 3 picks (1st and 3rd) in the 2000 draft for Ricky Williams. That ended Mike Ditka's coaching career. True but at least Williams contributed something. He was a thousand yard rusher for a few seasons. They gave away more but got more in return. Carolina have away a bit less for a net malice, while having the opportunity to draft Stroud. I think it’s debatable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted Monday at 10:27 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:27 PM 28 minutes ago, ultraJETfan said: Some of you on here have wives that are bigger than Bryce. I’m a polygamist; does cumulative count? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted Monday at 10:31 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:31 PM 1 hour ago, Bronx said: @Week 3 of Zach Wilson's career... in the meantime... Are you suggesting he is playing Wordle on his phone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted Monday at 10:40 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:40 PM 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: ok 3rd worst 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKlecko Posted Monday at 10:51 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:51 PM 21 minutes ago, Darnold's Forehead said: True but at least Williams contributed something. He was a thousand yard rusher for a few seasons. They gave away more but got more in return. Carolina have away a bit less for a net malice, while having the opportunity to draft Stroud. I think it’s debatable. I agree. Actually, when I initially responded to your post, I had forgotten about the Herschel Walker trade from the Cowboys to the Vikings. I think that is hands down the worst trade, with the Ricky Williams and Panthers/Bears trade as 2a and 2b. The Vikings got played by Jimmy Johnson big time. Dallas gave up Walker and 4 late-round draft picks, but wound up with 13 draft picks in exchange. I go into more detail in my response to Bunga. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted Monday at 10:59 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:59 PM 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenoJet Posted Monday at 11:06 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:06 PM Panthers need a total rebuild. How about the Jets offering a 5th rd pick for Jadeveon Clowney. Just a thought. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted Tuesday at 12:27 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:27 AM Antonio Brown's twitter. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultraJETfan Posted Tuesday at 12:35 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:35 AM 2 hours ago, jgb said: I’m a polygamist; does cumulative count? I'm Jealous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be_a_Jet Posted Tuesday at 12:55 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:55 AM That coach is dead man walking. They need to lose a lot more and completely deconstruct then reconstruct that roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shawn306 Posted Tuesday at 01:07 AM Popular Post Share Posted Tuesday at 01:07 AM 5 minutes ago, Be_a_Jet said: That coach is dead man walking. They need to lose a lot more and completely deconstruct then reconstruct that roster. The coach is only two games into his tenure. Tepper goes through coaches like Steinbrenner went through managers in his the 80’s. Probably the most hated man in Charlotte right now. Tickets on secondary sites for yesterday opener could be had for $15.00. Fans have had enough of this guy. He makes Woody look like a Hunt or Rooney. Panthers are rapidly becoming the NFL’s version of the Charlotte Hornets. Hornets had a great fan base their first few years with Mourning, LJ, Mugsy, etc. The owner moved them to New Orleans and while Charlotte eventually got the name back, they have never gotten the passionate fanbase back. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted Tuesday at 01:15 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:15 AM Can you get any worse than Bryce Young? Oh, that's right 🤣 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origen Posted Tuesday at 01:29 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:29 AM 4 hours ago, Creepy Lurker said: Do you think that a mistake THIS horrible that falls squarely on their owner, will serve as an eye opener for him to STFU and get out of the way? He literally destroyed the team with a nuke. Does it ever with people of his means? I'm not gonna tell him if it means the job ends, lol. I will if it did end, but he's got a whole lot of others more than happy to listen to him as long as the checks clear 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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