Robert Saleh: "AR8 is obviously up and down"

[Same Old Jets]

 

As much hate this man is receiving, AR8 is not the same player. Not everything is on coaching. 

[BreeceHallofFame]

He threw three interceptions what else do you want him to say? 

[bitonti]

Aaron rodgers is washed 

[Trotter]

90% of rodgers issues are a line that is significantly underperforming yet the coach and his staff state it will all work out or the most recent it doesn’t count yet anyway

rodgers has some rust no doubt but is typically under pressure 

the issues with the run game are mostly associated with the line as well

Maybe bobby should mention that

[JetPotato]

The fact that he wasn't pulled from the game when he was limping around and missing throws is 100% on the coach.

[oatmeal]

Rodgers is stealing money at this point 

[The Crusher]

5 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said:

He threw three interceptions what else do you want him to say? 

Well I'm no football guru but I think 3 pics is little more down than up. 

[rangerous]

3 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said:

He threw three interceptions what else do you want him to say? 

I didn’t watch the game until the last six minutes.  The thing is it depends how those ints came about.  Did the receiver slip? Wrong route? Bad pass protection rushed throw? Tipped throw?  I saw the last one to Williams and it looked like Williams was being pushed out Gilmore and needed to cut inside.  If Rodgers threw higher and more outside maybe the play works better too.  It also looked like some serious pass interference.

[JiFtheOracle]

This is about to get ugly.  Rodgers absolutely sucks ball sack, Saleh knows it and they're absolutely stuck w/ the bed they've made and nowhere to turn.  

[The Crusher]

5 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Aaron rodgers is washed 

Ture. What's your opinion of the line though? Don't seem to be doing much for the passing game or the running game. But no doubt on Aaron, he's approaching Drew Breeze last season season status at this point!

[The Crusher]

Just now, JiFtheOracle said:

This is about to get ugly.  Rodgers absolutely sucks ball sack, Saleh knows it and they're absolutely stuck w/ the bed they've made and nowhere to turn.  

Yeah and they can't even sneak out in the morning before she wakes up either!

[bitonti]

3 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Ture. What's your opinion of the line though? Don't seem to be doing much for the passing game or the running game. But no doubt on Aaron, he's approaching Drew Breeze last season season status at this point!

Honestly the line is being scapegoated 

It's a pretty good line but they can't block 6 with 5. Also run run pass play calls from Hackett are terrible 

It's not like Tyron Smith just forgot how to play football 

Teams know Rodgers can't move and they are going to blitz like crazy 

 

[Be_a_Jet]

I think Rodgers maybe has a little less Juice on his arm but more so I think the lack of Run game is effecting the offense as a whole more than anything. 
 

The offensive line scheme changes have really had a negative effect on Breece. The holes are much smaller  

[Pac]

The cowardice exhibited on this board the last 24 hours is shameful. 

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, Pac said:

The cowardice exhibited on this board the last 24 hours is shameful. 

When’s this revenge tour coming?

[Pac]

4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

When’s this revenge tour coming?

In time.  I, unlike you, have not already assumed the fetal position and start threads for every sentence uttered in a press conference. 

 

[oatmeal]

5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

When’s this revenge tour coming?

[Jetsfan80]

2 minutes ago, Pac said:

In time.  I, unlike you, have not already assumed the fetal position and start threads for every sentence uttered in a press conference. 

 

I didn’t start any of those threads bruh

[nj meadowlands]

21 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said:

This is about to get ugly.  Rodgers absolutely sucks ball sack, Saleh knows it and they're absolutely stuck w/ the bed they've made and nowhere to turn.  

You're only saying this bc covid

[Augustiniak]

21 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said:

This is about to get ugly.  Rodgers absolutely sucks ball sack, Saleh knows it and they're absolutely stuck w/ the bed they've made and nowhere to turn.  

Saleh thought rodgers would come in and fix the offense, and now that he’s realizing what they traded for, and that they need more than simply his old HOF self, he’s again out of answers.  And this is a problem when your head coach knows nothing about the offense and relies on a stream of others to fix it

[Pac]

5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

I didn’t start any of those threads bruh

But you participate in them.  

[JiFtheOracle]

3 minutes ago, nj meadowlands said:

You're only saying this bc covid

[The Crusher]

19 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Honestly the line is being scapegoated 

It's a pretty good line but they can't block 6 with 5. Also run run pass play calls from Hackett are terrible 

It's not like Tyron Smith just forgot how to play football 

Teams know Rodgers can't move and they are going to blitz like crazy 

 

 

Damn son, you got game boi! Not just another pretty face with a mesmerizing head of hair. 

[Guilhermezmc]

27 minutes ago, Trotter said:

90% of rodgers issues are a line that is significantly underperforming yet the coach and his staff state it will all work out or the most recent it doesn’t count yet anyway

rodgers has some rust no doubt but is typically under pressure 

the issues with the run game are mostly associated with the line as well

Maybe bobby should mention that

The whole offense is based in throwing back shoulder passes because Rodgers doesnt wanna hurt his TD/INT ratio.

I dont think they ran a simple screen in two full games, nevermind throwing a post to beat the 90% of cover 2 they’re seeing

[Augustiniak]

Just now, Guilhermezmc said:

The whole offense is based in throwing back shoulder passes because Rodgers doesnt wanna hurt his TD/INT ratio.

I dont think they ran a simple screen in two full games, nevermind throwing a post to beat the 90% of cover 2 they’re seeing

But is that rodgers or the oc?

[Darnold's Forehead]

13 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Honestly the line is being scapegoated 

It's a pretty good line but they can't block 6 with 5. Also run run pass play calls from Hackett are terrible 

It's not like Tyron Smith just forgot how to play football 

Teams know Rodgers can't move and they are going to blitz like crazy 

 

You are acting like there are no non-mobile QBs in the league.  Stafford, Goff, Cousins, Flacco, Dalton to name a few.  Rodgers is still more mobile than most of them, yet they don't have much of a problem.  Probably because they're not getting pressured 20+ times a game.  The line is awful.  They are fine players being coached wrong and assigned blocks wrong, while running bad plays.

Rodgers played terribly, yet was still the only reason they almost came back.  No running game, no pass blocking, no screens, no YAC, dropped passes.  If he's gonna play any better, which he has shown he can very much do, then every other player on offense can't play like ass too.

[Jetsfan80]

7 minutes ago, Pac said:

But you participate in them.  

I participate in your game threads too even though they end up in disaster, so…

[Augustiniak]

Just now, Darnold's Forehead said:

You are acting like there are no non-mobile QBs in the league.  Stafford, Goff, Cousins, Flacco, Dalton to name a few.  Rodgers is still more mobile than most of them, yet they don't have much of a problem.  Probably because they're not getting pressured 20+ times a game.  The line is awful.  They are fine players being coached wrong and assigned blocks wrong, while running bad plays.

Rodgers played terribly, yet was still the only reason they almost came back.  No running game, no pass blocking, no screens, no YAC, dropped passes.  If he's gonna play any better, which he has shown he can very much do, then every other player on offense can't play like ass too.

They keep forcing the ball to the wrs when they should be looking for easy yards like throwing to the TEs and especially the rbs.  Breece is an excellent wr and is better in space rather than running straight into a line.  But in the end if they keep losing we’re getting a new regime again.

[Warfish]

1. Rodgers was uncharacteristically inaccurate all game long.  Several times he looked Wilsonian in his lack of accuracy.

2. Rodgers missed some clear open guys trying to force getting more.  He missed wide open Hall for decent 5-8 yard gains several times.

3. Ultimately, Rodgers three INT's and inaccuracy killed us. 

• The pick 6 was an end result difference maker.
• The miss of Wilson (wide open) late was an end result difference maker.
• The final game-ending INT was obviously an end result difference maker.

There are many more, but those three plays (all failures by Rodgers) were key.

No questions other have a share of blame too, Hackett's play-calling was poop as usual, Lazard dropped several vital passes that hit him square and in both hands, and the Defense (who kept us in this game all day long) pooped the bed late when we needed it most.  And don't get me started on Sauce, once again exposed on National TV as not close to his reputation.

But Rodgers was a big part of why we lost yesterday.  I get it, he's a HOF'er and many here love him to death and will blame-shift for as long as he is here, but he's simply NOT the same player in any way in 2024 than he was prior to the Achilles.  He's not even the player he was in 2022 in his final, and very down, year in Green Bay.  If he doesn't show major improvement, it looks like we were scammed in that trade, no question.

[Augustiniak]

Just now, Warfish said:

1. Rodgers was uncharacteristically inaccurate all game long.  Several time he looked Wilsonian in his lack of accuracy.

2. Ultimately, Rodgers three INT's and inaccuracy killed us. 

• The pick 6 was an end result difference maker.
• The miss of Wilson (wide open) late was an end result difference maker.
• The final game-ending INT was obviously an end result difference maker.

There are many more, but those three plays (all failures by Rodgers) were key.

No questions other have a share of blame too, Hackett's play-calling was poop as usual, Lazard dropped several vital passes that hit him square and in both hands, and the Defense (who kept us in this game all day long) pooped the bed late when we needed it most.  And don't get me started on Sauce, once again exposed on National TV as not close to his reputation.

But Rodgers was a big part of why we lost yesterday.  I get it, he's a HOF'er and many here love him to death and will blame-shift for as long as he is here, but he's simply NOT the same player in any way in 2024 than he was prior to the Achilles.  He's not even the player he was in 2022 in his final, and very down, year in Green Bay.  If he doesn't show major improvement, it looks like we were scammed in that trade, no question.

Problem is that he’s got to play hero ball b/c there’s no running game.  Rodgers was supposed to be a complementary piece who would run an efficient, balanced offense. Instead teams have stuffed the run and figured they’ll take their chances chasing an old qb and it’s working and the jets coaches haven’t countered.  Rodgers’ ego is evident in some of those throws, but they’re going nowhere if they get 30 rushing yards a game. 

[bitonti]

19 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

 

Damn son, you got game boi! Not just another pretty face with a mesmerizing head of hair. 

It's funny how a very young QB in Zach and a very old QB in Aaron end up with the same stats 

All we are is dust in the wind 

[kmnj]

Arod will not take kindly to this-his ego is as soft as they come-I expect he will say something to the effect of the head coach has been up and down 

the reality is

Joe is a bad gm-said this for a few years now

Joes head coach is terrible

Joe has failed to get productive QB play (the most important position in football) his entire tenure-he should have kept Sam and traded for a haul instead he had a Zach attack and then hitched his wagon to a 40 year old QB(best case scenario Arod had 2-3 year windown) who is the QB waiting in the wind-where is our Jordan Love or ironically our Arod when Farve was the guy in GB

the only hope is Joe gets Adams and if I was Joe I would do whatever is necessary as if this team fails to make the playoffs he is gone and the team has a better chance with Arod vs without

[bitonti]

2 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

 Rodgers’ ego is evident in some of those throws

Understatement. He thinks he's still people 

He's gunshy inaccurate and not seeing the field like he used to 

This was all on 2022 film people just chose to believe it was the thumb injury fault or the Achilles fault 

He got these injuries being old in the NFL 

[dbatesman]

5 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

Rodgers was supposed to be a complementary piece who would run an efficient, balanced offense.

This is the case for signing Derek Carr, not the case for committing multiple high draft picks and a boatload of money to a surefire first-ballot Hall of Famer.

[Barton]

It’s coaching, folks.