You never root for losses…but

[T0mShane]

Listen, Jets are seven point favorites against a Pats team that’s rumored to possibly fire their first year head coach halfway into his first season.  The Jets should steamroll this team worse than they did in their first meeting. 
 

BUT

It’s in the best long-term interests of the Jets to lose this game. For the first time, Woody’s incompetence has become a national story. It has finally become the conventional wisdom among the fan base. Finally, Woody is taking the blame. 

Losing to the sh*t-ass Pats and the rookie QB they were rumored to love, in front of Woody’s frenemy and role model Bob Kraft will end the Jets season, drive a stake into the failed Rodgers acquisition, and *might* be humiliating enough to convince Woody to do what he should have done twenty years ago: hire a qualified President of Football Ops. The team cannot function with Woody’s incessant interventions, and he needs to be beaten back, and this is the week to make it happen. A loss here and it forces major changes. And the one change that Woody Johnson needs to make is to remove Woody Johnson from the premises.

Jets fans, suck it up and root for Drake Maye. Root for the evil Patriots. Root for temporary pain. Because without it, the doom cycle will continue forever.

[98jetsoasis]

Do whatever you need to do to get Archie !!! 

 

I like Ward and Ewers but Archie is the golden ticket 

[Augustiniak]

12 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Listen, Jets are seven point favorites against a Pats team that’s rumored to possibly fire their first year head coach halfway into his first season.  The Jets should steamroll this team worse than they did in their first meeting. 
 

BUT

It’s in the best long-term interests of the Jets to lose this game. For the first time, Woody’s incompetence has become a national story. It has finally become the conventional wisdom among the fan base. Finally, Woody is taking the blame. 

Losing to the sh*t-ass Pats and the rookie QB they were rumored to love, in front of Woody’s frenemy and role model Bob Kraft will end the Jets season, drive a stake into the failed Rodgers acquisition, and *might* be humiliating enough to convince Woody to do what he should have done twenty years ago: hire a qualified President of Football Ops. The team cannot function with Woody’s incessant interventions, and he needs to be beaten back, and this is the week to make it happen. A loss here and it forces major changes. And the one change that Woody Johnson needs to make is to remove Woody Johnson from the premises.

Jets fans, suck it up and root for Drake Maye. Root for the evil Patriots. Root for temporary pain. Because without it, the doom cycle will continue forever.

What makes anyone think he would hire a qualified president if he never hires a qualified gm or hc?

[extmenace]

Oh, cool. Another situation where losing would be in the best interest of the team. At the end of every coaching cycle, we’re all rooting to lose. Start fresh. At the end of the day, Woody isn’t selling the team. Our only hope is to find a coach / gm that isn’t highly regarded that turns out to be much better than anyone anticipated. 

[slats]

15 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

And the one change that Woody Johnson needs to make is to remove Woody Johnson from the premises.

I’d love to root for this, but I thoroughly expect the definition of insanity to prevail. 

[southparkcpa]

10 minutes ago, 98jetsoasis said:

Do whatever you need to do to get Archie !!! 

 

I like Ward and Ewers but Archie is the golden ticket 

He’ll pull an ELI and refuse to play here.  I wouldn’t blame him.  No player can succeed here……..  

[Augustiniak]

10 minutes ago, extmenace said:

Oh, cool. Another situation where losing would be in the best interest of the team. At the end of every coaching cycle, we’re all rooting to lose. Start fresh. At the end of the day, Woody isn’t selling the team. Our only hope is to find a coach / gm that isn’t highly regarded that turns out to be much better than anyone anticipated. 

Yes and we’re nearly at the end of this regime’s cycle.  They’re probably not making the playoffs, though there are some winnable games left but still at 2-5 it’s unlikely.  Rodgers seems increasingly unlikely to want to do this again so if he’s not the qb next year they either fire the gm and let the new one try, or trade or sign some retread like Andy dalton as a bridge qb.  This team was a make or break year team and we’re breaking.  At least now, vs the end of the mccagnan era, there’s way more talent to be harvested.  

[T0mShane]

24 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

What makes anyone think he would hire a qualified president if he never hires a qualified gm or hc?

Because he’s always has these layers of scapegoats giving him plausible deniability regarding the on-field product. It was always, well, Parcells and Belichick ****ed him, then it was Herm is a buffoon, then it was Mangini, then Tannenbaum, then Idzik/Rex, on and on. But now, after firing Saleh five games in, he’s the one left holding the bag. I’ve seen and heard more “Woody Johnson sucks” conversation in the past week than I’ve heard in the previous twenty years combined. Part of it is that the NFL media community is in their feelings about letting Rodgers—whom they hate—spike Saleh in-season, but it’s really the uproar in the fan base regarding Woody being the common denominator that’s been the difference now. We know Woody has rabbit ears for media criticism, and our lazy POS group of cub reporters uses Twitter as their assignment editor, so the “Woody sucks” drumbeat is going to get louder, Woody’s going to hear it, and Woody is going to panic. He’s not going to be able to lure a big, popular coach here because it’s a horrific job, and the same will go for GM candidates. His only way to fix it vis a vis signing a check is to bring in a name guy to run the whole show. But, in order to reach that breaking point, Drake Maye has to beat Aaron Rodgers in front of Woody and Kraft. 

[Matt39]

Is Woody going back to England this time? Wonder if he has a plan that doesn’t include his brother .

[Arsis]

I root fot losses all the time. I hope we lose out and get the number 1 pick.

[JetsFanatic]

42 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Listen, Jets are seven point favorites against a Pats team that’s rumored to possibly fire their first year head coach halfway into his first season.  The Jets should steamroll this team worse than they did in their first meeting. 
 

BUT

It’s in the best long-term interests of the Jets to lose this game. For the first time, Woody’s incompetence has become a national story. It has finally become the conventional wisdom among the fan base. Finally, Woody is taking the blame. 

Losing to the sh*t-ass Pats and the rookie QB they were rumored to love, in front of Woody’s frenemy and role model Bob Kraft will end the Jets season, drive a stake into the failed Rodgers acquisition, and *might* be humiliating enough to convince Woody to do what he should have done twenty years ago: hire a qualified President of Football Ops. The team cannot function with Woody’s incessant interventions, and he needs to be beaten back, and this is the week to make it happen. A loss here and it forces major changes. And the one change that Woody Johnson needs to make is to remove Woody Johnson from the premises.

Jets fans, suck it up and root for Drake Maye. Root for the evil Patriots. Root for temporary pain. Because without it, the doom cycle will continue forever.

All we do is lose and where it’s got us. 

[slats]

6 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

He’s not going to be able to lure a big, popular coach here because it’s a horrific job, and the same will go for GM candidates. His only way to fix it vis a vis signing a check is to bring in a name guy to run the whole show.

I agree with the first sentence, and that’s why I don’t believe that the second sentence is even a possibility. Which legitimate head of football operations candidate with anything to offer would be willing to work for this buffoon? Who would trust Woody when he says, “I’m gonna stay out of it this time”? 

[T0mShane]

5 minutes ago, Arsis said:

I root fot losses all the time. I hope we lose out and get the number 1 pick.

There are no good QBs this year

[T0mShane]

2 minutes ago, slats said:

I agree with the first sentence, and that’s why I don’t believe that the second sentence is even a possibility. Which legitimate head of football operations candidate with anything to offer would be willing to work for this buffoon? Who would trust Woody when he says, “I’m gonna stay out of it this time”? 

It’s a good point, but there are a lot of 60 year old former GMs out there scuffling with podcasts who might add value as a buffer between Woody and the team. Your Rick Spielman types. Just add one layer of football guy. 

[Larz]

No

this idea does not apply to the jets 

this is about as good an organization as he can attract and hire 

this is jets football for the next 20 years 

[oatmeal]

I want the pats to win because I hate this GM and owner period.

imagine selling your soul to a freaking fart water selling hippie

At least satan delivers in some type of way 

These clown deserve all humiliation coming 

[Jet_Engine1]

24 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Is Woody going back to England this time? Wonder if he has a plan that doesn’t include his brother .

[Matt39]

3 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

I mean it’s a topic. I haven’t heard anything about it yet.

[slats]

6 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

It’s a good point, but there are a lot of 60 year old former GMs out there scuffling with podcasts who might add value as a buffer between Woody and the team. Your Rick Spielman types. Just add one layer of football guy. 

I like the premise, but it’s very hard for me to picture. First they have to hire this HoFO guy, and then have to have him convince top level head coach and GM candidates that Woody won’t be interfering this time? 
 
Woody lost any chance of attracting top notch guys when he fired Saleh. With Joe Douglas, the organization was at least operating like an NFL organization. Woody jumping in and firing Saleh, and almost certainly going over JD’s head and offering more than what JD was willing to give either Davante or Reddick, who wants to work for that guy? He ****ed it. No one’s coming here. 

[slats]

6 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

 

2 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

I mean it’s a topic. I haven’t heard anything about it yet.

Let’s save it for a couple weeks, shall we? 

[adb280z]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Listen, Jets are seven point favorites against a Pats team that’s rumored to possibly fire their first year head coach halfway into his first season.  The Jets should steamroll this team worse than they did in their first meeting. 
 

BUT

It’s in the best long-term interests of the Jets to lose this game. For the first time, Woody’s incompetence has become a national story. It has finally become the conventional wisdom among the fan base. Finally, Woody is taking the blame. 

Losing to the sh*t-ass Pats and the rookie QB they were rumored to love, in front of Woody’s frenemy and role model Bob Kraft will end the Jets season, drive a stake into the failed Rodgers acquisition, and *might* be humiliating enough to convince Woody to do what he should have done twenty years ago: hire a qualified President of Football Ops. The team cannot function with Woody’s incessant interventions, and he needs to be beaten back, and this is the week to make it happen. A loss here and it forces major changes. And the one change that Woody Johnson needs to make is to remove Woody Johnson from the premises.

Jets fans, suck it up and root for Drake Maye. Root for the evil Patriots. Root for temporary pain. Because without it, the doom cycle will continue forever.

Your premise has a massive flaw. You think Woody can be embarrassed and shamed into changing his he does things. Guys like Woody don't change. 

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

39 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Is Woody going back to England this time? Wonder if he has a plan that doesn’t include his brother .

If Woody goes back to England , maybe he should take the Jets with him ? The NFL wants a franchise overseas ,doesn't it ?

[Matt39]

Just now, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said:

If Woody goes back to England , maybe he should take the Jets with him ? The NFL wants a franchise overseas ,doesn't it ?

That’s what we would call a “win win”

[Ghost420]

49 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

There are no good QBs this year

Cam ward in the 2nd round I'd take. 

[redlichtie]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Listen, Jets are seven point favorites against a Pats team that’s rumored to possibly fire their first year head coach halfway into his first season.  The Jets should steamroll this team worse than they did in their first meeting. 
 

BUT

It’s in the best long-term interests of the Jets to lose this game. For the first time, Woody’s incompetence has become a national story. It has finally become the conventional wisdom among the fan base. Finally, Woody is taking the blame. 

Losing to the sh*t-ass Pats and the rookie QB they were rumored to love, in front of Woody’s frenemy and role model Bob Kraft will end the Jets season, drive a stake into the failed Rodgers acquisition, and *might* be humiliating enough to convince Woody to do what he should have done twenty years ago: hire a qualified President of Football Ops. The team cannot function with Woody’s incessant interventions, and he needs to be beaten back, and this is the week to make it happen. A loss here and it forces major changes. And the one change that Woody Johnson needs to make is to remove Woody Johnson from the premises.

Jets fans, suck it up and root for Drake Maye. Root for the evil Patriots. Root for temporary pain. Because without it, the doom cycle will continue forever.

What’s the difference between a President of Football Ops & GM?

[Ken Schroy]

39 minutes ago, slats said:

 

Let’s save it for a couple weeks, shall we? 

He's not going anywhere no matter what happens.

[JetPotato]

Rooting for this team to lose is also the only way to be rewarded by the outcomes

[y2k8]

 

Unless losses resulted in drafting a new owner, the exercise is pointless.

Also, Arch Manning is a scrub with a name. Next.

[98jetsoasis]

1 hour ago, southparkcpa said:

He’ll pull an ELI and refuse to play here.  I wouldn’t blame him.  No player can succeed here……..  

[98jetsoasis]

20 minutes ago, redlichtie said:

What’s the difference between a President of Football Ops & GM?

It's usually a title for specific responsibilities in a corporate structure. Otherwise it's kinda synonymous 

[Arsis]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

There are no good QBs this year

Good. We can lose out again next season and get a QB.

[Larz]

Woody’s recent resume 

hired Gase on Peyton’s recommendation, based on a phone call from what I remember 

Fired Maccagnan who was recommended to him by the “NFL clueless owner help line” committee because Gase complained about the draft prep but only after letting him run the draft 

bypassed team President and GM to fire Saleh on a Tuesday after a full day of game planning and name Ulbrich head coach after what was reported as Saleh telling him about firing Hackett first and it was also reported there was no input or feedback from his GM

Saleh immediately hired by one of the top staffs in the league 

Woody is influenced by talk radio and flying banners. No self respecting football man would come here. 
 

It gets worse with every cycle. 
 

It’s possible Douglas walks away after this year after being put on a budget during free agency only to see woody open the check book after 6 games in a panic move. 
 

no plan. No vision. No clue. No respect 
 

The saints job will be a better job and they have negative 70 million in cap room in ‘25 😂

my advice is pick a few players you like and just follow them 

the armchair GM thing just doesn’t apply here anymore 

[southparkcpa]

19 minutes ago, 98jetsoasis said:

 44 posts and you are on of the last supporting this doomed franchise????   

[98jetsoasis]

It's disturbing that Hackett still has a job 

[southparkcpa]

2 hours ago, slats said:

I’d love to root for this, but I thoroughly expect the definition of insanity to prevail. 

Any 5’ 6” Mexicans down there you can recommend to us to start next year????😂