T0mShane Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 It's time to get behind Geno Smith as the franchise quarterback of your New York Jets. Not since Namath have the Jets drafted a quarterback with this combination of physical skills, toughness, smarts, and instincts. Yes, he's thrown some terrible balls, but he's improving by the minute. I think he's going to be a top-fifteen quarterback very soon and, given the proper coaching and complementary talent, he could develop into one of the elite players in this league, all because of his mental fortitude and, dare I say, grit. Get behind him, people. Train is leaving the station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Bogar wouldn't dare call that OPI on Hill if Simms were the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 If Logan Ryan had tried to pick off a Matt Simms pass, he would have imploded in upon himself like a dying star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Matt Simms won this game by 17, and he didn't even play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I accept him. However I can't imagine he'll have great days the next 2 weeks against Cincy and the Saints. If he does, HUGE progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 It's time to get behind Geno Smith as the franchise quarterback of your New York Jets. Not since Namath have the Jets drafted a quarterback with this combination of physical skills, toughness, smarts, and instincts. Yes, he's thrown some terrible balls, but he's improving by the minute. I think he's going to be a top-fifteen quarterback very soon and, given the proper coaching and complementary talent, he could develop into one of the elite players in this league, all because of his mental fortitude and, dare I say, grit. Get behind him, people. Train is leaving the station. Get behind him, people. Train is leaving the station. Is there a lounge car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen25 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I already accepted Browning Nagle as my savior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 It's time to get behind Geno Smith as the franchise quarterback of your New York Jets. Not since Namath have the Jets drafted a quarterback with this combination of physical skills, toughness, smarts, and instincts. Yes, he's thrown some terrible balls, but he's improving by the minute. I think he's going to be a top-fifteen quarterback very soon and, given the proper coaching and complementary talent, he could develop into one of the elite players in this league, all because of his mental fortitude and, dare I say, grit. Get behind him, people. Train is leaving the station. Good post TS We should also be happy with the development of Hill (who looked very good today) and Jeff Cumberland. This Nelson kid looks the part as well. If this team can get a top notch number one WR next year and fill the rest of the holes through the draft we will be looking at a very impressive young team moving forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 It's time to get behind Geno Smith as the franchise quarterback of your New York Jets. Not since Namath have the Jets drafted a quarterback with this combination of physical skills, toughness, smarts, and instincts. Yes, he's thrown some terrible balls, but he's improving by the minute. I think he's going to be a top-fifteen quarterback very soon and, given the proper coaching and complementary talent, he could develop into one of the elite players in this league, all because of his mental fortitude and, dare I say, grit. Get behind him, people. Train is leaving the station. I've accepted the idea, but not sold. Hopefully after looking the brochure over for a few more weeks I'll accept, and bow down to the holy one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Good post TS We should also be happy with the development of Hill (who looked very good today) and Jeff Cumberland. lol wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Good post TS We should also be happy with the development of Hill (who looked very good today) and Jeff Cumberland. This Nelson kid looks the part as well. If this team can get a top notch number one WR next year and fill the rest of the holes through the draft we will be looking at a very impressive young team moving forward Would you be willing to part with TB's 3rd round selection to move up and grab Mike Evans (or insert your favorite WR in the draft), because the Jets will win to many games to have a chance at the big 3 WR's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Geno is our QB moving forward. But he's no franchise QB. He's a nice QB who can do well at times and suck donkey balls other times. He'll never be a Brady, Manning (non-retarded one) Marino or Elway. But he'll hopefully be good enough to help guide a good offense with a killer D to a championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Geno is our QB moving forward. But he's no franchise QB. He's a nice QB who can do well at times and suck donkey balls other times. He'll never be a Brady, Manning (non-retarded one) Marino or Elway. But he'll hopefully be good enough to help guide a good offense with a killer D to a championship. Do you have to be a HoF QB to be a Franchise QB? And isn't it a tad too early to cap Geno's potential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Do you have to be a HoF QB to be a Franchise QB? And isn't it a tad too early to cap Geno's potential? Of course its early, but rarely do QB's go from barely above average to superstar. And yes, in my book a real franchise QB is a HOF'er, not some average or above average QB. He's a superstar. I dont see that in Geno. I see him as a nice QB who can do some good but will never be a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 It's time to get behind Geno Smith as the franchise quarterback of your New York Jets. Not since Namath have the Jets drafted a quarterback with this combination of physical skills, toughness, smarts, and instincts. Yes, he's thrown some terrible balls, but he's improving by the minute. I think he's going to be a top-fifteen quarterback very soon and, given the proper coaching and complementary talent, he could develop into one of the elite players in this league, all because of his mental fortitude and, dare I say, grit. Get behind him, people. Train is leaving the station. Grit. Racist. Totally agree though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Of course its early, but rarely do QB's go from barely above average to superstar. And yes, in my book a real franchise QB is a HOF'er, not some average or above average QB. He's a superstar. I dont see that in Geno. I see him as a nice QB who can do some good but will never be a star. Is Joe Flacco a franchise QB? Was Eli Manning? Rings or no rings, neither is HOF material. Boomer Esiason, Drew Bledsoe, Ken Anderson, Ken Stabler, Matt Ryan, Philip Rivers, Donovan McNabb, Phil Simms, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo, Matthew Stafford, Joe Theismann, and others I'm not thinking of. All franchise QBs. None are in or will be in the HOF. A franchise QB is someone who is good enough to get the team to the playoffs, particularly with other pieces to the puzzle in place. After that, a guy who, in the right place at the right time, has the requisite leadership skills and who can look like a HOF guy on the field during an isolated playoff run here or there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 People are letting draft status muddy their assessment. He was rated high for the draft, fell a bit and now some fans are regarding him as journeyman at best because of it. I see a guy who started out well as a rookie and is improving as the season progresses. His arm is strong and accurate, especially on long passes, and he runs even better than people hoped for. Why is everyone sure he's not Hall of Fame bound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Why is everyone sure he's not Hall of Fame bound? Bit doesn't like him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 RIght now I'm thinking the worst case scenario is he turns into a Jay Cutler, and I'd take that in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I wiil be wating to see how his first GQ shoot turns out to make my decision. Personally I think the rest of you should as wel.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Geno has a gun. He seemed to be throwing the ball harder yesterday. /Confidence is growing. But he still has trouble with that mid range pass to the guy in the clear. He pulls the string on it too much, although Cumberland got a PI on it yesterday. That is a bit of a touch pass. I have not seen him throw a ton of screens or touch passes. But I love the vertical game and the arm strength. And the willingness and the ability to run when the D is in man coverage. Yesterday he seemed to recognize that instinctively and it was a huge weapon. He can be good, possibly great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Geno has a gun. He seemed to be throwing the ball harder yesterday. /Confidence is growing. But he still has trouble with that mid range pass to the guy in the clear. He pulls the string on it too much, although Cumberland got a PI on it yesterday. That is a bit of a touch pass. I have not seen him throw a ton of screens or touch passes. But I love the vertical game and the arm strength. And the willingness and the ability to run when the D is in man coverage. Yesterday he seemed to recognize that instinctively and it was a huge weapon. He can be good, possibly great. As he gets more comfortable he is planting his feet and stepping into his passes. His mechanics are very nice and I think he will develop nicer finesses passes as the game continues to slow down for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 Geno is our QB moving forward. But he's no franchise QB. He's a nice QB who can do well at times and suck donkey balls other times. He'll never be a Brady, Manning (non-retarded one) Marino or Elway. But he'll hopefully be good enough to help guide a good offense with a killer D to a championship. I think you're looking at about half of what Geno will be, and you gotta like what you see IMO. He has the arm, he has poise, he gets better as the game gets bigger, and he doesn't let mistakes or bad games spiral on him. It remains to be seen how far how can go in terms of reading defenses and anticipating coverages, but he looks great for a guy who's learning on the fly. That said, I'd almost guarantee that Idzik spends another relatively high pick on a QB next year to insulate the organization in the event that Geno doesn't become a superstar. I'm not talking about burning a 1, but I could see him spending a third on an AJ McCarron-type player, and chasing a vet free agent besides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 That said, I'd almost guarantee that Idzik spends another relatively high pick on a QB next year to insulate the organization in the event that Geno doesn't become a superstar. I'm not talking about burning a 1, but I could see him spending a third on an AJ McCarron-type player, and chasing a vet free agent besides. You would have to be brain dead if you don;t agree with this. Let's hope the days of putting all your hopes on one QB and hiring his retarded Uncle to be the 2nd string QB/mentor are over. Some insurance at the most improtant position on the field is a must nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Is Joe Flacco a franchise QB? Was Eli Manning? Rings or no rings, neither is HOF material. Boomer Esiason, Drew Bledsoe, Ken Anderson, Ken Stabler, Matt Ryan, Philip Rivers, Donovan McNabb, Phil Simms, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo, Matthew Stafford, Joe Theismann, and others I'm not thinking of. All franchise QBs. None are in or will be in the HOF. A franchise QB is someone who is good enough to get the team to the playoffs, particularly with other pieces to the puzzle in place. After that, a guy who, in the right place at the right time, has the requisite leadership skills and who can look like a HOF guy on the field during an isolated playoff run here or there. I just have a different standard than you. To me a franchise QB is a guy who is perenially a star, not just getting a team to the playoffs... I didnt sh!t all over him and say dump his ass because he isnt a HOF'er. I think he's just above average QB at this point who, if he continues to develop has an outside shot to be a top 10 QB, or could turn like sh!t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 People are letting draft status muddy their assessment. He was rated high for the draft, fell a bit and now some fans are regarding him as journeyman at best because of it. I see a guy who started out well as a rookie and is improving as the season progresses. His arm is strong and accurate, especially on long passes, and he runs even better than people hoped for. Why is everyone sure he's not Hall of Fame bound? I only know of one person that keeps bringing up his draft slot as though it means something conclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I think you're looking at about half of what Geno will be, and you gotta like what you see IMO. He has the arm, he has poise, he gets better as the game gets bigger, and he doesn't let mistakes or bad games spiral on him. It remains to be seen how far how can go in terms of reading defenses and anticipating coverages, but he looks great for a guy who's learning on the fly. That said, I'd almost guarantee that Idzik spends another relatively high pick on a QB next year to insulate the organization in the event that Geno doesn't become a superstar. I'm not talking about burning a 1, but I could see him spending a third on an AJ McCarron-type player, and chasing a vet free agent besides. There are some things I like and some things that turn my stomach. The hope is he continues to improve this year and moves forward in year 2. The fear is he turns into a mediocre QB once teams figure him out. As far as if he is our QB for the forseeable future? Yep. He's earned the right to be the starting QB in 2014. Lets remember one thing... People were falling all over each other Sanchez's rookie year because of his poise. http://deadspin.com/5364180/mark-sanchez-overpraise-poised-to-annoy-the-hell-out-of-us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I just have a different standard than you. To me a franchise QB is a guy who is perenially a star, not just getting a team to the playoffs... I didnt sh!t all over him and say dump his ass because he isnt a HOF'er. I think he's just above average QB at this point who, if he continues to develop has an outside shot to be a top 10 QB, or could turn like sh!t. You didn't answer. Are any of the QBs I mentioned franchise QBs or none of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Franchise QB? Maybe. I think his pocket presence needs to go up about 150%, but he has nice tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Not ready, but definitely looking better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Lets remember one thing... People were falling all over each other Sanchez's rookie year because of his poise. http://deadspin.com/5364180/mark-sanchez-overpraise-poised-to-annoy-the-hell-out-of-us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I see a rookie QB that has the arm and skills to be good- to be a complete player can he learn to read the coverages and make the better decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 amen brother, eat these holy sunflower seeds and receive redemption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CobraVerde Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 As our QB, yes. As our savior, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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