HessStation Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Spending 8M on Byrd doesn't make sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 rex is wearing out the carpeting outside idziks office, lol Not for a 34 year old situational rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Vick, Ware, and Revis, Does Idzik realize we're 2-3 years away from a Super Bowl run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 From Kimberley Martin, Cowboys set to release Miles Austin, THIS IS WHY YOU WAIT. POTY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 rex is wearing out the carpeting outside idziks office, lol lol Idzik's secretary - Rex, John said you should go home and get some sleep tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jettington Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Spending 8M on Byrd doesn't make sense to me. Or me, it would make more sense to pay 11 for Revis. CBs are worth more in Rex's system than Safetys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Because the rumors have stopped and players have started signing or plan on signing. And the Jets don't seem to be in many of those conversations. Can't really start rumors when the team seems to be the odd team out for many players. But why? Again, we've got $40m to spend. You don't have to go out there throwing money around foolishly, you don't have to throw $10m at the first guy to knock at your door but why do nothing at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Spending 8M on Byrd doesn't make sense to me. I agree. Jets need a SS, worse than a FS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 rex is wearing out the carpeting outside idziks office, lol Outside the facility, hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I agree. Jets need a SS, worse than a FS. We have Antonio Allen, Dawan Landry, and every other FA safety (not named Byrd) that can play the in-the-box safety role. We need a true centerfielder that can cover the deep half and make plays on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 We have Antonio Allen, Dawan Landry, and every other FA safety (not named Byrd) that can play the in-the-box safety role. We need a true centerfielder that can cover the deep half and make plays on the ball. Allen is a FS, hence my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Allen is a FS, hence my point. 1. No he's not. He's a S/LB hybrid that plays the 46 role. 2. It's all semantics for a defense that needs safeties to have interchangeable duties. 3. I'm not sure I've ever seen him play the single-high role that a traditional FS plays, which is what we need, and would get in Byrd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Allen is a FS, hence my point. SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Spending 8M on Byrd doesn't make sense to me. I wouldn't mind that at all. Weve lacked a playmaker at the position for too long. I want Byrd paired with an edge rusher and corner help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 The Raiders are just idiots. Some things never change, the Saffold deal is awesome considering he's really a gaurd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 1. No he's not. He's a S/LB hybrid that plays the 46 role. 2. It's all semantics for a defense that needs safeties to have interchangeable duties. 3. I'm not sure I've ever seen him play the single-high role that a traditional FS plays, which is what we need, and would get in Byrd. Well said. But 8 M per for Byrd is too much imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 1. No he's not. He's a S/LB hybrid that plays the 46 role. 2. It's all semantics for a defense that needs safeties to have interchangeable duties. 3. I'm not sure I've ever seen him play the single-high role that a traditional FS plays, which is what we need, and would get in Byrd. Antonio Allen (born September 23, 1988) is an American football free safety for the New York Jets of the National Football League (NFL). He was drafted by the New York Jets in the seventh round of the 2012 NFL Draft. He played college football atSouth Carolina. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Allen Playing the single high role is not exclusive to the FS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I wouldn't mind that at all. Weve lacked a playmaker at the position for too long. I want Byrd paired with an edge rusher and corner help. I want Byrd too. But there's a cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Allen will probably start next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 16m Bears announced they are releasing DE Julius Peppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Allen will probably start next year. This is ok by me Allen-Landry-Milliner-Revis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 @AdamSchefter: Saints still haven’t released RB Darren Sproles and now plan to trade him due to heavy interest, per ESPN source. Not being released, though Probably not here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 19m Browns are signing Bengals RFA WR Andrew Hawkins to an offer sheet, per source close to situation. Details of offer sheet are pending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Antonio Allen (born September 23, 1988) is an American footballfree safety for the New York Jets of the National Football League (NFL). He was drafted by the New York Jets in the seventh round of the 2012 NFL Draft. He played college football atSouth Carolina. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Allen Playing the single high role is not exclusive to the FS. Like seed said The position has changed where they're interchangeable but Allen predominantly played SS over the TE base to base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 But why? Again, we've got $40m to spend. You don't have to go out there throwing money around foolishly, you don't have to throw $10m at the first guy to knock at your door but why do nothing at all? Dude, it's been 2.5 hours, it'll be okay. You're gonna go bald early if you get this worked up about things, they're going to sign someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 For all y'all Austin Howard revisionists: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Dude, it's been 2.5 hours, it'll be okay. You're gonna go bald early if you get this worked up about things, they're going to sign someone. Thanks, sorry I'm getting a little impatient. I'm sure day 2 will be better. By definition, it has to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Like seed said The position has changed where they're interchangeable but Allen predominantly played SS over the TE base to base. His coverage is a work in progress. Athletically, once he gets his technique down, he should be able to play FS. Either way, I dont want to pay a safety 8 million a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Well said. But 8 M per for Byrd is too much imo In FA everyone gets paid too much. Look at Jenkins, guy got paid $5.5 per. Whinter got paid $7 mil, Bethea nearly got $6 mil. Bryd getting $8 mil sounds right whether you want to do it or not is another thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 For all y'all Austin Howard revisionists: Rich Cimini @RichCimini 4m Possible fallback option if Austin Howard leaves: Saints RT Zach Strief. The Jets already have made an inquiry, per source. #Jets I heart Idzik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 In FA everyone gets paid too much. Look at Jenkins, guy got paid $5.5 per. Whinter got paid $7 mil, Bethea nearly got $6 mil. Bryd getting $8 mil sounds right whether you want to do it or not is another thing. Just because the market sets a price doesn't make him worth it. We have other needs, $8M for a safety just isn't worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 His coverage is a work in progress. Athletically, once he gets his technique down, he should be able to play FS. Either way, I dont want to pay a safety 8 million a year. Allen is far from a FS, way too slow to be depending on to play that position. More so a nickel package LB or a SS who still a work in progress. So far I like his progress so I hope he keeps it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Antonio Allen (born September 23, 1988) is an American football free safety for the New York Jets of the National Football League (NFL). He was drafted by the New York Jets in the seventh round of the 2012 NFL Draft. He played college football atSouth Carolina. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Allen Playing the single high role is not exclusive to the FS. I'm not sure what this points out. ESPN lists him as a FS, but that is traditionally a role that is depicted by the deep man in a Cover-1 scheme. As I mentioned, Rex likes his safeties to have the versatility to "switch" pre-snap to add an element of confusion to the offense, but I've yet to see Allen be the deep man. "When watching game film of New York Jets seventh round selection Antonio Allen, one thing is obvious; he is very much a true Strong Safety. Having played the “Spur” position during his collegiate career at South Carolina, Allen was a rover type safety for the Gamecocks, a position that is almost a strong safety/outside linebacker hybrid. Very rarely was he ever lined up as a true safety, and often times he was placed right in the box alongside the linebackers. " http://turnonthejets.com/2012/05/new-york-jets-draft-antonio-allen/ "Allen was a strong safety in college at South Carolina, but was as much of a Sam linebacker as he was a safety and developed a reputation for being a stout run defender." http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1820126-how-antonio-allens-was-able-to-contain-rob-gronkowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 or someone like Sproles. Sure, but they need Wideouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 The Jets were pretty much silent today and im ok with that good things take time. Tomorrow will have Revis back and Ware and Nicks both signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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