UnitedWhofans Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Been saying it all along. Not a thing is going to come of this and all you people who think the nfl is somehow losing - the Super Bowl will have its best ratings ever. Of course it will. And it appears that's all they care about which is sad. It has become the primary purpose for the NFL.. In the past it was more equalized, but not now. The NFL, feeling that they are bulletproof, doesn't care about integrity and justice anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 You can tell Belicheat's latest excuse is still a lie. These balls are prepped way before the game itself... and he's trying to get us to believe they miraculously deflate during the game? C'mon.... They get Monica Lewinsky to rub their balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 whether we root for the Pats or the Jets, it's safe to say are all die hards on this forum. Big football fans. We have been pummeled with stories about spouse abuse, concussion, child beating, dog fighting, bathroom raping... what is or isn't a catch... etc. This doctoring of a football story seems tame and nice compared to all that this story is for non football fans. People who don't know the game at all watch the Super Bowl and now my mom is asking about PSI. that's the kind of story this is. It's huge. blaming the media for covering of the biggest stories in the country? Cmon. It's not a conspiracy. It's entertainment. Great post bit, just tell your mom that 2 pounds of PSI is the equivelent of missing one strand of hair when she goes to the hairdresser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 lol 5D192B26F61170866359505199104_142213049166046fe213.0344.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 marshawn lych should show up to media day and hold court for 100 reporters and simply say; "follow the money" and walk away, LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Nothing new really. He is just trying to suggest that it was atmospheric and they did nothing wrong. Says qbs couldnt tell the difference of one lb and in most cases 2 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Great post bit, just tell your mom that 2 pounds of PSI is the equivelent of missing one strand of hair when she goes to the hairdresser. Well Bill did say that the difference was noticeable to some of his QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Great post bit, just tell your mom that 2 pounds of PSI is the equivelent of missing one strand of hair when she goes to the hairdresser. I thought it was 15% less the normal weight..thats more than one strand isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 DIDN'T clemmens get away witth it though? Yea but not one person in America believed his nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funaz Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Yea but not one person in America believed his nonsense. I'm sure Bellichec and Brady will care no one believes they didn't cheat hoisting their 4th Tainted lombardi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I'm sure Bellichec and Brady will care no one believes they didn't cheat hoisting their 4th Tainted lombardi They won't care , all I'm saying is his attempt to squash this isn't going to work...all this did ( just like Clemens ) was stir the hornets nest more....the mainstream media can't wait to blow this up next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Could you provide me a link. Google is acting a little gay. Could you provide me a link. Google is acting a little gay. http://on.msnbc.com/1yWwHzp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I thought it was 15% less the normal weight..thats more than one strand isnt it? Actually, it isn't the weight. It's the air pressure inside of the ball. As far as extra weight, we're talking the weight of the extra air that has to be squeezed into the ball to raise the pressure 2 psi. Probably a fraction of an ounce. A small fraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 http://on.msnbc.com/1yWwHzp I appreciate that! I went to ESPN's website but they said that the footage wasnt available in my region. Lame asses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Patriots Always Keep a Tight Grip on the Ball Since 2010, New England Has the Lowest Fumble Rate in the NFL With the Deflategate scandal rocking the sports world, WSJ reporter Geoff Foster performs a quasi-scientific experiment to see who is to blame. By MICHAEL SALFINO Updated Jan. 24, 2015 9:13 a.m. ET 25 COMMENTS One of the many questions surrounding “Deflategate”—the controversy that has engulfed the New England Patriots—concerns what advantage an NFL team would gain from using a deflated football. Numerous players have said a softer ball is easier to grip, and a ball that’s easier to grip is harder to drop New England coach Bill Belichick and quarterback Tom Brady both denied ever purposely using footballs that were inflated below the NFL minimum. But on the basis of the allegations, the Count looked at the fumble rate of the Patriots compared with the rest of the league. New England has had an uncanny ability to hold on to the football for quite some time. According to data compiled by Warren Sharp of Sharp Football Analysis, the Patriots fumble far less than any other team that plays outdoors, where the elements can make the football harder to handle. Beginning in the 2010 season, Patriots players have fumbled (whether lost or recovered) once every 73 touches from scrimmage, which is 52% better than the league average. The next best team is the Ravens, who have fumbled once every 55 touches. Additionally, according to Stats, LLC, the six players who have played extensively for the Patriots and other teams in this span all fumbled far less frequently wearing the New England uniform. Including recovered fumbles, Danny Amendola, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Danny Woodhead, Wes Welker, Brandon LaFell and LeGarrette Blount have lost the ball eight times in 1,482 touches for the Patriots since 2010, or once every 185.3 times. For their other teams, they fumbled 22 times in 1,701 touches (once every 77.3). The Patriots didn’t return a request for comment. Advertisement Of course, Belichick is strict disciplinarian when it comes to holding on the football, frequently benching running backs who dare to put the ball on the ground. But other NFL head coaches aren’t exactly cavalier about the practice. And it’s not only ball carriers who can potentially benefit. Quarterbacks are frequent fumblers when sacked. But while the average passer fumbles once every 7.3 sacks, Brady’s rate is once every 9.1, an improvement of nearly 25%. ENLARGE Log in to comment There are 26 comments. NewestOldestReader Recommended CHARLES HILL 43 minutes ago Interesting. The standard deviation of this distribution is 7.3. The Patriots are more than 3 standard deviations above the mean, which makes them a major statistical outlier. The probability that the superior performance of the Patriots on this measure is not due to chance is greater than 99.7%. They are either remarkably more skilled than every other NFL team, or they routinely play with deflated balls, or some combination of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Actually, it isn't the weight. It's the air pressure inside of the ball. As far as extra weight, we're talking the weight of the extra air that has to be squeezed into the ball to raise the pressure 2 psi. Probably a fraction of an ounce. A small fraction. the mass of some air is miniscule. I think polians point has more to do with the force needed to grip the ball leading to fatigue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetbeggar Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Exactly! , Who was the reporter that starting needling him about Spygate? He's my new favorite reporter lol. He sounded a LOT like Manish Mehta LOL, that's who I was thinking it sounded like to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strongman Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Bill Polian was awesome this morning on Sirius He also explained that a deflated football also helps relieve arm fatigue. Interesting. This also means even though Brady had to use properly inflated balls in the 2nd half, his arm wasn't as tired as Luck's arm. He still had an advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indygirl4jets Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 Are the sammich's ready yet? Yeah, they are and you dont get one!! haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strongman Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 The ball boys used in the Super Bowls are impartial and hired by the NFL, as opposed to all other games (including the conference championships) where the teams supply their own.In the Cheatriots 2007 season, is it simply coincidence after averaging around 35 points per game, they were suddenly held to 14 points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 so who plays brady in the SNL opener tonight ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Sure it did. it was the little green men. I get it. I do. Know what else Ollie? Namath never won another SB after leaving Bachelors 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Patriots Always Keep a Tight Grip on the Ball Since 2010, New England Has the Lowest Fumble Rate in the NFL With the Deflategate scandal rocking the sports world, WSJ reporter Geoff Foster performs a quasi-scientific experiment to see who is to blame. By MICHAEL SALFINO Updated Jan. 24, 2015 9:13 a.m. ET 25 COMMENTS One of the many questions surrounding “Deflategate”—the controversy that has engulfed the New England Patriots—concerns what advantage an NFL team would gain from using a deflated football. Numerous players have said a softer ball is easier to grip, and a ball that’s easier to grip is harder to drop New England coach Bill Belichick and quarterback Tom Brady both denied ever purposely using footballs that were inflated below the NFL minimum. But on the basis of the allegations, the Count looked at the fumble rate of the Patriots compared with the rest of the league. New England has had an uncanny ability to hold on to the football for quite some time. According to data compiled by Warren Sharp of Sharp Football Analysis, the Patriots fumble far less than any other team that plays outdoors, where the elements can make the football harder to handle. Beginning in the 2010 season, Patriots players have fumbled (whether lost or recovered) once every 73 touches from scrimmage, which is 52% better than the league average. The next best team is the Ravens, who have fumbled once every 55 touches. Additionally, according to Stats, LLC, the six players who have played extensively for the Patriots and other teams in this span all fumbled far less frequently wearing the New England uniform. Including recovered fumbles, Danny Amendola, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Danny Woodhead, Wes Welker, Brandon LaFell and LeGarrette Blount have lost the ball eight times in 1,482 touches for the Patriots since 2010, or once every 185.3 times. For their other teams, they fumbled 22 times in 1,701 touches (once every 77.3). The Patriots didn’t return a request for comment. Advertisement Of course, Belichick is strict disciplinarian when it comes to holding on the football, frequently benching running backs who dare to put the ball on the ground. But other NFL head coaches aren’t exactly cavalier about the practice. And it’s not only ball carriers who can potentially benefit. Quarterbacks are frequent fumblers when sacked. But while the average passer fumbles once every 7.3 sacks, Brady’s rate is once every 9.1, an improvement of nearly 25%. ENLARGE Log in to comment There are 26 comments. NewestOldestReader Recommended CHARLES HILL 43 minutes ago Interesting. The standard deviation of this distribution is 7.3. The Patriots are more than 3 standard deviations above the mean, which makes them a major statistical outlier. The probability that the superior performance of the Patriots on this measure is not due to chance is greater than 99.7%. They are either remarkably more skilled than every other NFL team, or they routinely play with deflated balls, or some combination of the two. Wonder why the Jets have such a high fumble rate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Wonder why the Jets have such a high fumble rate? The Pats paid someone to overinflate the balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Know what else Ollie? Namath never won another SB after leaving Bachelors 3. I already took you to school. are you impaired ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 so that was a disappointing SNL sketch did they write it an hour ago ? http://youtu.be/2svKSuNk0Dk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Wonder why the Jets have such a high fumble rate? Jets are pretty close to the average, just like every other team in the league. Well every team but one that really, really stands out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Can't wait to hear about the punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Did you graduate from grade school? Is this seriously your thing now? Questioning someone's education because you don't agree with them over and over again. Grow the **** up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strongman Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 The guys over at Advanced NFL Statistics looked at the work Warren Sharp did regarding the Patriots** lack of fumbles. They pretty much agreed with his assessment that the Patriots** seem to fumble a lot less than other teams. He didn't conclude if it was due to coaching or having an unfair advantage. He did notice something had changed in 2007. Anyhow, it's worth a read.http://alturl.com/umq6s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 The Pats paid someone to overinflate the balls. Thank god its not because of Sanchez or Geno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I already took you to school. are you impaired ? Namath completed less than 50% of his passes and threw more INTS than TDs on his sole SB run. Impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 When are you guys gonna learn? The game was different back when Joe was playing it. They did not throw to backs very often back then. They threw the ball downfield 10 or 15 yards mostly. There were very few pick-6s back then because when the db intercepted, he had the whole offensive team in front of him to get through. Now a lot of ints are pick-6s because the db is only five yards from the line of scrimmage when he intercepts, two steps and he's past anybody who can catch him going for the TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 The NFL just confiscated NE's gameballs for the superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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