AFJF Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 We should give Idzik some credit for fixing our cap and giving us so much room to work with this year too. I disagree...and not because I won't give Idzik credit when it's due. Big picture, he was a failure but he did get us Ivory and Sheldon. I also have high hopes for Ik and Dozier. However, he really did nothing in terms of the cap that every armchair GM didn't predict before he did it. This team was weighed down with some terrible contracts that absolutely had to be torn up if they were going to be in position to get some players. Idzik did it to such an extreme that he took at 8-8 team that was a few players away from playoff contention and turned them in to a 4-12 laughing stock. He could've saved plenty of cap space while improving the roster but opted to "punt" the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Gotta figure Cro over Milliner. But what about Skrine? Did we really just shell out $6.5mil/year for a nickel guy? If it works, I'm not complaining. Just seems like a high enough deal that they'd expect him to be the #2. You make it seem like the nickle guy is not as important. It's rare to see 2 wide reliever sets these days so Skrine will definitely have an important role with us. I am excited man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jettington Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 If we sign Cro, this is in indication we might be dealing Dee Milliner. I know he was a high draft pick and a first round pick but if we are intent on keeping Revis for the foreseeable future, Dee is expendable and can become a valuable trading piece to a CB desperate team. If we could trade our 2015 1st, 2016 1st, and Dee for Tampa's #1 pick and get Jameis, I think I pull the trigger on that deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Should we give him credit for striking out in an extremely depressed CB market? Revis was available from the Bucs making $13M per year through 2018. Cro signed for one year at $3.5M. They could have had both for less than they pay Revis and not been running JuCo players out there at CB last year. Thanks Idzik. Revis knew it was a bad CB market, why didn't Idzik? His obsession with cap space went beyond rational thought. And now he is gone, but in the meantime one of the reasons he got rid of Revis was because we couldn't afford to pay the guy what he wanted, two years later we can afford Revis and still have 30m to spend. He did do some good for the team even if he wasn't able to be a part of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 If we sign Cro, this is in indication we might be dealing Dee Milliner. I know he was a high draft pick and a first round pick but if we are intent on keeping Revis for the foreseeable future, Dee is expendable and can become a valuable trading piece to a CB desperate team. If we could trade our 2015 1st, 2016 1st, and Dee for Tampa's #1 pick and get Jameis, I think I pull the trigger on that deal. Tampa wont though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 And now he is gone, but in the meantime one of the reasons he got rid of Revis was because we couldn't afford to pay the guy what he wanted, two years later we can afford Revis and still have 30m to spend. He did do some good for the team even if he wasn't able to be a part of that. Except last year we could afford him and didn't even reach out. Trading Revis was the right move. Not looking to get him back in 2014? Not so much. That Tampa contract is looking pretty frugal right now. We could have had him back for a wee bit more than Harvin is costing us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Except last year we could afford him and didn't even reach out. Trading Revis was the right move. Not looking to get him back in 2014? Not so much. That Tampa contract is looking pretty frugal right now. We could have had him back for a wee bit more than Harvin is costing us. I also vaguely remember reports saying that Woody didn't want to sign Revis back last year, who knows if those reports held any validity but it is possible he changed his mind over the course of a year after seeing how bad our secondary was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOZ THE JET Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 29 million left in cap space who we sign next besides Cromartie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 29 million left in cap space who we sign next besides Cromartie? I am praying for Stevie Johnson, I think we can get him cheap and he will add depth to our receiver core. (I think we can use it with the oft injured Decker last year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 29 million left in cap space who we sign next besides Cromartie? Sam Acho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfresh Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Based on Jason's calculations we still have almost 29 million in cap space: http://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space If you look at the details, this does not include Skrine or Carpenter figures yet, so more like $20M. There clearly is some play in there though. For example, if there was a OLB that we liked, either Pace or Babin could come off the books at basically their full salary (2M and 1.5M respectively) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The #Jets are the clear leader for the services of Antonio Cromartie, and the expectation is he signs there. Revis the recruiter. — Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 11, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I believe in Mac. I really do. Mac and Bowles are actually football guys unlike some of the guys we previously had (excluding Rex). I like where we're going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Jets are the clear frontrunner for Cromartie, the recruiter...Revis. -Ian Rapoport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Bowles likes a lot of 3 safety looks and he knows what Cro can do, so it seems very much in play for him to play FS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I believe in Mac. I really do. Mac and Bowles are actually football guys unlike some of the guys we previously had (excluding Rex). I like where we're going. Me too way better than Rex and Idiotzik Jets are the clear frontrunner for Cromartie, the recruiter...Revis. -Ian Rapoport Great news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jettington Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I'm loving this secondary already, Revis & Cro back together, I think we will finally get to see what Pryor is fully capable of with the security Revis and Cro provide. If Milliner or McDougle (playing nickel) prove to be anything they were sold as being then this is the best secondary we have ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Anyone else having a blast combing through Patriot fan comments about Revis on the NFL website? tons of them and they are a blast! Roslyn Travis Rollins · Receptionist at PEE DEE GASTROENTEROLOGY AND ASSOCIATES Revis is a joke!! The jets did't want him when they thought he was hurt and going to be at the bottom!! Do you truly think that they will honor that deal!! Not!! Travis Samwise Pattow · Top Commenter I wouldn't be happy if I was a jets fan... getting an older corner for a lot of money.... plus its like if your gf cheated on you with your arch enemy, won a superbowl ring.. and then what? you offer a bunch of money and they come crawling back.... gold digging bit..ch Patrick Steele · Top Commenter · Concord, Massachusetts I wonder if this scumbag faked those tears after the Super Bowl. No one remembers the highest paid player in NFL history. Legacy > Money. What an absolute fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxman Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 From @AlbertBreer & me: Once Brian Hoyer signs with Texans, a trade of Ryan Fitzpatrick to Jets could happen quickly. Sides have talked. — Kimberly Jones (@KimJonesSports) March 11, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 There goes the 7th rounder from the bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 We're signing Cro which is completely unnecessary and we're going to trade for Fitzpatrick? 2 stupid dumb moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 We're signing Cro which is completely unnecessary and we're going to trade for Fitzpatrick? 2 stupid dumb moves. Not Fitzpatrick. I like that move. Had a very good season last year and knows Gailey's system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Another CB is a luxury if you ask me. We have to get a Qb we really need an olb more than another Cb right now if you ask me. Against popular opinion I think one of Williams, Milliner or mcdougall can man the other CB spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Neuman Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Ugh, if we have to trade for this guy, then I hope it's a 2018 7th rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 We're signing Cro which is completely unnecessary and we're going to trade for Fitzpatrick? 2 stupid dumb moves. Trading for Fitz I think is actually the smart move, it gives him to us on a 1 year contract for 3.25m with nothing guaranteed as opposed to having to write up a deal which would likely involve somewhere between 5-7m over two years with money guaranteed to the guy. I suspect we don't give more than a 7th round pick for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 We're signing Cro which is completely unnecessary and we're going to trade for Fitzpatrick? 2 stupid dumb moves. Cro is a luxury, Fitzpatrick though is almost a necessity unless you have some other great scheme up your sleeve for a QB. If the solution is Geno and a draft pick then god help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I'll take Fitz. He's better than Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Except last year we could afford him and didn't even reach out. Trading Revis was the right move. Not looking to get him back in 2014? Not so much. That Tampa contract is looking pretty frugal right now. We could have had him back for a wee bit more than Harvin is costing us. Yeah, we should have picked up Revis last year so we could go 6-10 and then had the privilege of watching him bounce on us like he did to the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I just hope they save some money for that Veterans combine. Might be some no name guy who shows up worth signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 We're signing Cro which is completely unnecessary and we're going to trade for Fitzpatrick? 2 stupid dumb moves. Agree on the first part, disagree on the second. Trading a 7th round pick (it won't be more than that) for an immediate stabilization of the most important position is worth not having to wait for the Texans to cut him and then have to vie for his services on the open market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Oh man! If Miliner plays to his potential we will have a crazy secondary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 We're signing Cro which is completely unnecessary and we're going to trade for Fitzpatrick? 2 stupid dumb moves. Go back to sleep Johnny Utah... We don't know what the #'s on Cro are and Fitzpatrick is the perfect backup QB for our situation. Who cares about a 7th rounder that wasn't going to make the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Go back to sleep Johnny Utah... We don't know what the #'s on Cro are and Fitzpatrick is the perfect backup QB for our situation. Who cares about a 7th rounder that wasn't going to make the roster. Fitz isnt backing up if they trade for him which is just moronic. Dont care how familiar he is will Chan. Chan's supposed to be a QB guru who can make it work with anyone. Cro is a totally useless and unnecessary signing - he's not even good anymore. What does he do for the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 We're signing Cro which is completely unnecessary and we're going to trade for Fitzpatrick? 2 stupid dumb moves. You can never have too many CBs. We probably had the worst corners last year and now we have the best core. Fitzpatrick will cost us a 7th round pick. The same pick that we didn't expect to get in the Marshall trade. Stop being sad. You live in the finest city in the world.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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