SoFlaJets Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 Man after rewatching the film highlights that I posted at the start I have 1 question; Who IS that quarterback and why isn't he playing pro ball as the Jets backup QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Man after rewatching the film highlights that I posted at the start I have 1 question; Who IS that quarterback and why isn't he playing pro ball as the Jets backup QB? Ha, right? Though I think we have someone very similar as the "backup" now. Ever watch Geno to Tavon Austin highlights? Austin seemed to be a bit more versatile than Devin but still very similar on the deep balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smaxor5 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Devin's got a couple of inches on him, I think, but he reminds me a lot of this guy: I was hoping that the Patriots would pick him at the end of round 1, but a couple teams ahead of them (mainly the Colts) left them no choice when they idiotically passed on Malcom Brown. I still have no idea why that happened...like Dorsett over Brown...when you already have TY and Moncrief...and you haven't been able to stop the run for a DECADE!?! So stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Five things we learned from Todd Bowles…Jets head coach Todd Bowles spoke to reporters on Tuesday. Here are five things we learned… 1.) He’s hopeful Devin Smith will play against the Eagles on Sunday, but he’ll have to see how Smith comes along as the week progresses. 2.) Zac Stacy was activated due to lingering concern over Chris Ivory‘s groin. 3.) The Jets are making “great strides” and he’s not surprised the team is 2-0. 4.) Mo Wilkerson‘s play over the first two games has impressed Bowles. 5.) Some of the turnovers the Jets forced on Monday were due to game preparation, but others were due to luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Super excited about seeing him play. Would love to see what Gailey can do with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 The Ohio State Buckeyes could use someone on their team catching the deep ball Devin Smith made it look easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Nice! On another note I love how the QB throws the ball down the field. Which one? highlights had Braxton, JT and Cardale throwing bombs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Five things we learned from Todd Bowles…Jets head coach Todd Bowles spoke to reporters on Tuesday. Here are five things we learned… 1.) He’s hopeful Devin Smith will play against the Eagles on Sunday, but he’ll have to see how Smith comes along as the week progresses. 2.) Zac Stacy was activated due to lingering concern over Chris Ivory‘s groin. 3.) The Jets are making “great strides” and he’s not surprised the team is 2-0. 4.) Mo Wilkerson‘s play over the first two games has impressed Bowles. 5.) Some of the turnovers the Jets forced on Monday were due to game preparation, but others were due to luck. they weren't all Andrew lucks fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Does anyone know if he's gonna play this week? Sounds like we won't know until Sunday. Reading between the lines into what Bowles said today... 1. Decker still hasn't been ruled out for Sunday. 2. Smith's status seems tied to Decker. 3. If Smith is active on Sunday, he won't return kicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Jets' Devin Smith says he's not rusty as he nears return vs. Eagles The Jets will get some needed depth at wide receiver when Devin Smith takes the field. This might be the week that Devin Smith makes his long-awaited debut for the New York Jets as all signs point towards the wide receiver being back, ready and good to go. The team's second round pick, Smith practiced in full again on Thursday and perhaps not a moment too soon. The offense is without wide receiver Chris Owusu, who had his knee scoped this week and will be out three weeks. In addition, wide receiver Eric Decker suffered a knee injury on Monday night in a win at the Indianapolis Colts, casting doubt on his availability for Week 3. Smith suffered a ribs injury in training camp and didn't play in preseason or in the first two games of the regular season. He returned to the field last week and there was some thought he might play against the Colts but he was inactive. He told Metro on Thursday that he feels ready but he won't actually know how his progress has come until he steps on the field in a situation where he'll be hit and tackled. "I don't know if I can tell you, just because [there's no] tackling and everything. as of right now, this week, I'm feel pretty good," Smith said. RELATED LINK: Is Chris Ivory's quad healing fast enough? "With the offense, I'm feeling pretty comfortable. For me, I feel like I haven't missed a beat. Just all about getting used to the whole process of hearing the play, going out there and executing, running the routes, those type of things. The more I did more and more, the more I'm feeling comfortable." Smith certainly brings a unique element to the team with very good speed and arguably the best feet of any wide receiver on the roster. His return adds a big-play element and he can help stretch the field. But since he's missed seven weeks of practice and has yet to play a game for the Jets, Smith might not yet be ready to show his full potential at this point. "I don't think I have any rust because for the most part, I feel really good. I was out there practicing this whole week," Smith said. "I feel like the speed is still there, running routes really well." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 The Eagles won't know exactly who we're sending out there until moments before kickoff. Advantage: Jets. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Not knocking Fitz, legit question. Does Fitz have the ability to take advantage of Smith's speed? Devin has some great highlight videos. The one constant though is a QB launching the ball. My observations say no. While we are all in honeymoon land with Fitz, and I think he's the most competent QB we SADLY have had in quite some time, his painfully obvious lack of arm strength will SEVERELY limit this offense and effectiveness of Smith as the season progresses. It's happened in Buffalo and Tennesse, the game has no Deep Ball game and that seriously limits the true potential of this offense; it's why they went with Geno first, everyone knows Fitzy ceiling and probable Cinderella @ midnight outcome. I pray i am wrong, but 30 years of watching football you pick up on some things along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't easy being Green Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 My observations say no. While we are all in honeymoon land with Fitz, and I think he's the most competent QB we SADLY have had in quite some time, his painfully obvious lack of arm strength will SEVERELY limit this offense and effectiveness of Smith as the season progresses. It's happened in Buffalo and Tennesse, the game has no Deep Ball game and that seriously limits the true potential of this offense; it's why they went with Geno first, everyone knows Fitzy ceiling and probable Cinderella @ midnight outcome. I pray i am wrong, but 30 years of watching football you pick up on some things along the way. I get it, I have seen it to. But I don't think he has to be the perfect QB to win with this team. If he can just hit enough long balls to keep it a threat. Geno is a mistake waiting to happen. This D could be special and a game manager can win with a special D. It's early so we have to see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Devin will hopefully return some kicks as he works his way into the WR rotation/mix. if he breaks the seam NO ONE is catching him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thshadow Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Hey, even Chad hit a few deep balls from time to time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Hey, even Chad hit a few deep balls from time to time.... Fitz was one of the best deep passers in the NFL last season. Still trying to get on the same page with his WR's here so maybe we see some improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Fitz was one of the best deep passers in the NFL last season. Still trying to get on the same page with his WR's here so maybe we see some improvement. Even if he's lost his fastball you still have to occasionally take shots downfield to keep defenses honest. The best QB's do so partly because they know from time to time, even if he's not getting completions, his WR will get a flag in his favor. And that opens up the middle when it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Even if he's lost his fastball you still have to occasionally take shots downfield to keep defenses honest. The best QB's do so partly because they know from time to time, even if he's not getting completions, his WR will get a flag in his favor. And that opens up the middle when it happens. Absolutely....even if you have a QB like Chad, you have to show a defense that you'll look to make a play if they crowd the box. Hackett never understood that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I think Fitz has more than enough deep ball ability, there were several overthrows he made to Decker who actually had a step or two on the defender; Smith catches those passes in stride... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Fitz is a good deep ball thrower? Ummm, yeah, and Ryan Mallett is a great 40 yard dash runner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Fitz is a good deep ball thrower? Ummm, yeah, and Ryan Mallett is a great 40 yard dash runner... If you look at some of the game film win4ever compiled, you'd see Fitz threw a couple of 25 yarders that were pretty accurate. I'd say that qualifies, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Fitz is a good deep ball thrower? Ummm, yeah, and Ryan Mallett is a great 40 yard dash runner... All depends on what you consider a deep ball. He's not gonna' throw it 70 yards, but on passes that travel 20+ yards through the air, he was second only to Matt Ryan last season in accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 All depends on what you consider a deep ball. He's not gonna' throw it 70 yards, but on passes that travel 20+ yards through the air, he was second only to Matt Ryan last season in accuracy. Is that stat really a useful stat to tell us he could throw deep . What were the situations: Did he complete garbage time passes when his team was down by 20. What defenses did those throws happen against (ie prevent, blitz, nickel/dime). That stat all by itself means nothing . It would be analogous to me stating he can't throw outdoors as he only had 6 td's in open air stadiums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Is that stat really a useful stat to tell us he could throw deep . What were the situations: Did he complete garbage time passes when his team was down by 20. What defenses did those throws happen against (ie prevent, blitz, nickel/dime). That stat all by itself means nothing . It would be analogous to me stating he can't throw outdoors as he only had 6 td's in open air stadiums. Other than a stat that shows he was good at throwing the ball 20+ yards into the arms of his receivers, what stat should we use? I guess we can discredit any stat we don't agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Other than a stat that shows he was good at throwing the ball 20+ yards into the arms of his receivers, what stat should we use? I guess we can discredit any stat we don't agree with. Just like you can credit any stat you agree with. Stats without situational breakdowns are useless, they can be twisted to make any point you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Just like you can credit any stat you agree with. Stats without situational breakdowns are useless, they can be twisted to make any point you like. I guess when you think about it, we have no idea how good anyone is at anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 stats without situational breakdowns > situational breakdowns without stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Only on JN do we nitpick the hell out of competent QB's then make every excuse in the book for sh*tty ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I guess when you think about it, we have no idea how good anyone is at anything. True if we choose to use stats as a standalone criteria as to how to analyze something. When complex analysis is done factoring in more than just a simple reference point , they can be quite effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Only on JN do we nitpick the hell out of competent QB's then make every excuse in the book for sh*tty ones. Right, Fitzy never played for great teams . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 True if we choose to use stats as a standalone criteria as to how to analyze something. When complex analysis is done factoring in more than just a simple reference point , they can be quite effective. No point in discussing players I suppose. They go on the field, they do stuff and things happen. That's what it boils down to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 No point in discussing players I suppose. They go on the field, they do stuff and things happen. That's what it boils down to. Its all subjective, you can rank a player GOAT based on what stats you think are relevant , I can rank a different player GOAT based on what stats I believe are relevant. We can argue endlessly based on stats, but unless criterias and situations are the same , neither of us can definitively prove anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Its all subjective, you can rank a player GOAT based on what stats you think are relevant , I can rank a different player GOAT based on what stats I believe are relevant. We can argue endlessly based on stats, but unless criterias and situations are the same , neither of us can definitively prove anything. The fact that he was #2 in the NFL is enough to tell me he's at least a little bit good at it. If another fan wants to dig deeper to find a specific scenario in which he wasn't good at it to say he wasn't good at it, that's cool too. We all find our own way to enjoy sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 We've had an awful lot of nice threads come to a grinding halt with people going "But Fitz is our QB and he sucks plus we're all gonna die one day anyways." Thanks Buzz Killington's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Its all subjective, you can rank a player GOAT based on what stats you think are relevant , I can rank a different player GOAT based on what stats I believe are relevant. We can argue endlessly based on stats, but unless criterias and situations are the same , neither of us can definitively prove anything. No, I'm pretty positive that if the statistic is that Ryan Fitzpatrick was 2nd most accurate passer on passes over 20 yards last season, then it means exactly that he was 2nd most accurate passer on passes over 20 yards last season. Definitively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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