nyjunc Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I disagree about the '10 roster. We had a stronger offensive line, runningbacks, receivers, cornerbacks, and linebackers. The only difference was QB and DL. While I think Bowles contributed to the loss yesterday, it wasn't all on him. Fitzpatrick, Revis and the slew of drops by the receiver core contributed too. that QB didn't melt in the biggest game in 2010. also, don't forget Revis missed games in '10, Mangold, Holmes was suspended, Cotch missed games, we lost Jenkins early, we lost Leonhard late. the talent was close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I disagree about the '10 roster. We had a stronger offensive line, runningbacks, receivers, cornerbacks, and linebackers. The only difference was QB and DL. While I think Bowles contributed to the loss yesterday, it wasn't all on him. Fitzpatrick, Revis and the slew of drops by the receiver core contributed too. Combined td's from backs LT/Greene in 2010 was 8 this year with Ivory and Powell was 11 tds.. The 2010 w/r's Braylon,Holmes Cotchery and Keller totaled 20 td's ..This year just Marshall and Deck not counting anyone else had 26 plus we had a RB and both W/R had over 1,000 yds in 2010 no w/r's or backs were over 1,000 yds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Jeesh GroundHog day Rex the savior and Geno Vs. Fitz- fun off season- not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMagicRat Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 that QB didn't melt in the biggest game in 2010. also, don't forget Revis missed games in '10, Mangold, Holmes was suspended, Cotch missed games, we lost Jenkins early, we lost Leonhard late. the talent was close. Revis and Mangold missed games this year too. Decker was injured and Richardson was suspended for the first four games of the season as well. we lost Pyror and Cro for a few games. Jenkins wasn't as big of a loss because we had Pouha at the time. He came on strong in 2009. Plus we had Keller who was a thousand times better than anyone we had at tight end this year Revis, Cro, Pace, Harris, Mangold and D'Brick were all younger and in the primes of their career. That really benefited that 2010 team. Overall, '14 Fitz had a better season than Sanchez '10. Unless you disagree and then we could chalk up QB for an advantage for the '10 team as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 The blowhard is 2 and whoa versus the jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 bottom line the Jets fired Rex and then Rex swept the Jets. I like Bowles and all but this idea that Rex was some terrible coach holding the team back doesn't jive with reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 that is what we are doing now, this roster was more talented than '09/'10 and the AFC was tougher then too. Rex is far from perfect but he was the best HC on the field yesterday by a wide margin and our HC cost us a playoff spot. This roster would have never precipitated itself with Rex here. I also doubt we win more games committing 12 penalties a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 This has to be the worst thread ever created, and it's probably not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Revis and Mangold missed games this year too. Decker was injured and Richardson was suspended for the first four games of the season as well. we lost Pyror and Cro for a few games. Jenkins wasn't as big of a loss because we had Pouha at the time. He came on strong in 2009. Plus we had Keller who was a thousand times better than anyone we had at tight end this year Revis, Cro, Pace, Harris, Mangold and D'Brick were all younger and in the primes of their career. That really benefited that 2010 team. Overall, '14 Fitz had a better season than Sanchez '10. Unless you disagree and then we could chalk up QB for an advantage for the '10 team as well. '10 sanchez was better, he helped us win 11 games and helped us reach the title game. I don't care about meaningless stats that didn't help us win. the talent was similar and we made the title game in 2010 against a tougher AFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMagicRat Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Combined td's from backs LT/Greene in 2010 was 8 this year with Ivory and Powell was 11 tds.. The 2010 w/r's Braylon,Holmes Cotchery and Keller totaled 20 td's ..This year just Marshall and Deck not counting anyone else had 26 plus we had a RB and both W/R had over 1,000 yds in 2010 no w/r's or backs were over 1,000 yds We had better QB play and a better OC. Edwards, Holmes, Cotchery, Keller > Marshall and Decker. If Ivory could stay healthy our runningbacks would be better but Greene and LT were solid rocks. Though LT was on his last legs, he was about the same level as Powell, maybe a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Who won today Rex beat the Jets twice. He is a fantastic coach. Much of JN is just blind to this fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 We had better QB play and a better OC. Edwards, Holmes, Cotchery, Keller > Marshall and Decker. If Ivory could stay healthy our runningbacks would be better but Greene and LT were solid rocks. Though LT was on his last legs, he was about the same level as Powell, maybe a little better. did you really just say Schittenheimer was better than Gailey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMagicRat Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 did you really just say Schittenheimer was better than Gailey? I meant in 2015 we had a better OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMagicRat Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 '10 sanchez was better, he helped us win 11 games and helped us reach the title game. I don't care about meaningless stats that didn't help us win. the talent was similar and we made the title game in 2010 against a tougher AFC. Alright so every position outside of DL was better. That should equal at least one more win, even in a slightly more difficult conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan_toronto_canada Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Jets lost to a better coach today PERIOD do you really believe it was the coaching? I'd say a shanked punt from our end zone and a missed FG had something to do with the loss, and likely have nothing to do with coaching… Hard for me to pin the win on buff's coaching and the loss on our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 do you really believe it was the coaching? I'd say a shanked punt from our end zone and a missed FG had something to do with the loss, and likely have nothing to do with coaching… Hard for me to pin the win on buff's coaching and the loss on our own. so who was the winning coach yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 Funchess 7 catches for 120 yards and a touchdown yesterday. So glad we took a pass on him for Devin Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loluchka80 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 so who was the winning coach yesterday? the dolphins also beat the pats. ryan tannehill >> tom brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 So sick of this vanilla D Thanks for the title of your post, first time i have laughed in 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 That might be the best troll I've seen. Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Alright so every position outside of DL was better. That should equal at least one more win, even in a slightly more difficult conference. QB- edge 2015(is what most would say but I give edge to 2010) RBs- edge 2015 WRs- edge 2015 TE- edge 2010 OL- even DL- edge 2015 LBs-edge 2010 DBs- edge 2010 K- edge 2015 P- even coverage- edge 2010 pretty close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 the dolphins also beat the pats. ryan tannehill >> tom brady he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Funchess 7 catches for 120 yards and a touchdown yesterday. So glad we took a pass on him for Devin Smith. How did Hakeem Nicks do ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 the dolphins also beat the pats. ryan tannehill >> tom brady more importantly, clearly interim HC >> Bellicheck; Guess Miami messed up in firing their GM too... Steelers lost to their very weak division rival last week (which gave us hope) for the second time this year; Jets and Pats lost within their division yesterday too; it sucks - we have to do better against Rex, but in the NFL division games are always harder - especially on the road with field condition issues. Not making an excuse for Bowels or the Jets, but this Rex talk is silly. Good, bad, joke - it was time to move on and the circus has left town. Let's give Bowels at least 1/3 the time as a HC as Rex has had and see where the teams are this time next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 What is Rex's record versus Ryan Fitzpatrick? 8-1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I wish you could send neg rep when using Tapatalk. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'll hit the button for you dude. And give him my own in another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Rex beat the Jets twice. He is a fantastic coach. Much of JN is just blind to this fact. Define fantastic... His only offer to coach was from the Bills, and they have a worse record this year than last year. Yes, the Bills beat us twice. Bowles made mistakes and you would hope a veteran coach looks better against a rookie coach. We'll see how the bones roll next year. I have a feeling we make the playoffs and the Bills finish under .500 as a coach's job extends beyond the playing field. Rex probably sold a family member's soul to sweep the Jets this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan_toronto_canada Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 so who was the winning coach yesterday? Rex was. But that doesn't make him a better coach IMO - otherwise we're implying that Dan Campbell is better than Bellichick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Rex did a very poor job overall this year IMO. Bills should have gotten to the playoffs this year. Best QB and offense Rex has ever had and his defense regresses. Jets had a better record with worse expectations and more holes coming into season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Combined td's from backs LT/Greene in 2010 was 8 this year with Ivory and Powell was 11 tds.. The 2010 w/r's Braylon,Holmes Cotchery and Keller totaled 20 td's ..This year just Marshall and Deck not counting anyone else had 26 plus we had a RB and both W/R had over 1,000 yds in 2010 no w/r's or backs were over 1,000 yds This year was mainly due to a better QB, OC and cupcake schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 This year was mainly due to a better QB, OC and cupcake schedule. 2010 was probably an easier schedule. The final game was also an exhibition game that got us to 11 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 remember that thing that they always used to do over at JI, when they would write DUMP? Yea that's what should happen here-without even reading one single word-it's a ridiculous premise and a moot point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 The worst part is other teams are going to see how much success rex has had against Fitz and just copy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMagicRat Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I guess runningback and receiver are a matter of opinion. While we had two studs at receiver this year, 2010 had more depth at receiver. Cotchery, Edwards and Holmes were all solid options.. I guess you could consider runningback a wash. Ivory and Powell were hurt too much to be relied upon. Greene or LT weren't explosive, but they were consistent and LT had solid hands. The OL was much better in '10. D'Brick and Mangold were in the prime of their careers. Moore was much better than Winters/Colon and Woody/Hunter was better than Breno. The only upgrade was Carpenter over Slauson. Quigley was god awful this year. Weatherford had a solid year for us in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Who was picked by everyone to finish ahead of us?Who went 10-6? Who won, what 8-8? So... Moral victory? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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