PLO Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 For some reason this hasn't been talked about much except in terms of Marshall coming back from the injury like Lazarus from the dead. This was one of the worst professional fouls I've seen in a long time in the NFL; absolutely the dirtiest play a corner could pull on a reciever, potentially career-ending. For a professional to pull that on a fellow professional would be a nadir for any player in the league. I can only think that getting pawned repeatedly by Marshall and the Jets recievers caused the frustration that led to it, but having said that that's no excuse. If you look at the tape it was obviously no accident - unlike a lot of other facemasks that happen in the league, where players are out of position or whatever. In my book a worse foul than something like the Suh stomp; in other football leagues, something like this happens Gilmore is suspended for most of the season and has a mark against his name for the rest of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I agree, dirty play by a dirty player on a dirty team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Building a bully ... Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Buffalo is a dirty team that face mask was blatant and intended to cause injury to Marshall I wouldn't put it past Rex Ryan to instruct his players to hurt our stars anyway they could. The NFL needs to review that play and enforce suspensions and fines. That could have ended Marshall's career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Suspend please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 He should of been kicked out of the game. I was losing my ******* mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Ok let's step off the ledge. He didn't purposefully tackle Brandon that way. Had he not taken Brandon down then it's a TD. No NFL player on the planet let's up on that tackle knowing it will lead to a TD. He grabbed the face mask, and by the time he realized it he had no choice but to continue to take him down and prevent the TD. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, Snell41 said: Ok let's step off the ledge. He didn't purposefully tackle Brandon that way. Had he not taken Brandon down then it's a TD. No NFL player on the planet let's up on that tackle knowing it will lead to a TD. He grabbed the face mask, and by the time he realized it he had no choice but to continue to take him down and prevent the TD. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk BULLsh*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLO Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, Snell41 said: Ok let's step off the ledge. He didn't purposefully tackle Brandon that way. Had he not taken Brandon down then it's a TD. No NFL player on the planet let's up on that tackle knowing it will lead to a TD. He grabbed the face mask, and by the time he realized it he had no choice but to continue to take him down and prevent the TD. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Look at the tape: both hands are moving above the shoulder, he has close position on Marshall, could have easily wrapped him around his trunk. This may have been a snap decision but he decided to facemask: its the equivalent of sliding foot first into another players knee in baseball or soccer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 5 minutes ago, Snell41 said: Ok let's step off the ledge. He didn't purposefully tackle Brandon that way. Had he not taken Brandon down then it's a TD. No NFL player on the planet let's up on that tackle knowing it will lead to a TD. He grabbed the face mask, and by the time he realized it he had no choice but to continue to take him down and prevent the TD. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sometimes you get beat as a CB. It's not okay to intentionally yank a man to the ground by his facemask when it happens, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Initially I thought he horse collared him either way those types of tackles can cause serious injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bachelors3 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I still have no idea how Brandon did not get a severe knee injury. If my knee was in the angle his was, I would not be able to walk for months much less continue to play in the same game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I can understand in the moment the refs threw the flag they were supposed to and didn't do more. However seeing the film slowed down it's hard to imagine how that wasn't completely intentional. The NFL should review, fine and suspend. If that behavior is let go then it sends the message that a player's career is only worth fifteen yards. That's the same penalty for taunting and taunting twice can get a player ejected and fined. That makes zero sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Buffalo as an organization didn't take control of Rex and his foolishness from the getgo and this is the result. Rex hasn't created a bully but rather just dumb players willing to hurt others when they can't play straight up. That face mask was a DISGRACE!!!! And I would say the same thing if a Jet player did it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 And yet Phil 'i hate the jets' Simms said that Marshall is too big; pulling him down by the face mask is the only way to tackle him. I don't know if this tackle was a blatant... but remember the game that some CB was head hunting the Jets - pretty much ended our 'promising' WR career. he was head-hunting all game. So, if you taunt twice you are ejected, but if a CB pulls a WR down by the face mask twice he isn't? Yeah, that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 44 minutes ago, Bachelors3 said: I still have no idea how Brandon did not get a severe knee injury. If my knee was in the angle his was, I would not be able to walk for months much less continue to play in the same game. Agreed. He is a freak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Look at the tape: both hands are moving above the shoulder, he has close position on Marshall, could have easily wrapped him around his trunk. This may have been a snap decision but he decided to facemask: its the equivalent of sliding foot first into another players knee in baseball or soccer. I'm sorry, I just really have a hard time abiding by the notion that he could have made a fair tackle, and then consciously decided "nah, let me commit an egregious personal foul and grab his face mask instead and try to blow out his knee". I'm mean, really?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLO Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 21 minutes ago, Snell41 said: I'm sorry, I just really have a hard time abiding by the notion that he could have made a fair tackle, and then consciously decided "nah, let me commit an egregious personal foul and grab his face mask instead and try to blow out his knee". I'm mean, really?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Basically he intentionally facemasked him to bring him down - similar situation you see in soccer where a player goes in studs up to a knee to end a potenitally goal-scoring play - players who do that can end up with months of suspension in that sport - its a decison made in a split second that can end a fellow players career and tbh should be punished as such. Most facemasks in the league are unintentional where the player is out of position and gets his fingers caught somehow in the grille - Gilmore had position to tackle fairly and made a snap decision not to. Its not as if a Suh said to himself I'm going to stomp someone before the game..........but in the heat of the moment he did - Gilmore made the same decision as a Suh. Frankly he should be punished as such, or if this league was fair, punished worse because's a Suh stomp was never going to be career ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Basically he intentionally facemasked him to bring him down - similar situation you see in soccer where a player goes in studs up to a knee to end a potenitally goal-scoring play - players who do that can end up with months of suspension in that sport - its a decison made in a split second that can end a fellow players career and tbh should be punished as such. Most facemasks in the league are unintentional where the player is out of position and gets his fingers caught somehow in the grille - Gilmore had position to tackle fairly and made a snap decision not to. Its not as if a Suh said to himself I'm going to stomp someone before the game but in the heat of the moment he did - Gilmore made the same decision as a Suh. Frankly he should be punished as such, or if this league was fair, punished worse because's a Suh stomp was never going to be career ending. I completely disagree. Suh made a conscious decision to curb stomp a dude. Gilmore reach grabbed face mask, realized if he let go it would result in a TD so followed through with the tackle. It's simple as that. Should he be fined? Certainly. But it's ridiculous to think in the heat of the moment before he even laid hands on Brandon that he recognized the option of tackling fairly or deliberately injuring Brandon and he opted for injury. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Yet Decker and Richardson would have been kicked out for talking shot and spinning the ball in the defenders direction. The NFL rules committee has really f'd up. Now to "keep QBs safe" we are forcing them out of the game after a hit to the head. Hello open season on the QBs. Except for Brady. They will never let defenders get near him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLO Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 24 minutes ago, Snell41 said: I completely disagree. Suh made a conscious decision to curb stomp a dude. Gilmore reach grabbed face mask, realized if he let go it would result in a TD so followed through with the tackle. It's simple as that. Should he be fined? Certainly. But it's ridiculous to think in the heat of the moment before he even laid hands on Brandon that he recognized the option of tackling fairly or deliberately injuring Brandon and he opted for injury. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk "Heat of the moment" is what happens in most crimes. Doesn't excuse them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoeword Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 it was dangerous - I always thought a face mask is dangerous cause the guy could hurt his neck - never thought it could cause a severe knee injury like it almost did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 It's obvious from the last two games that opponents' game plan was to take out Marshall, the Jets best weapon, by hurting him. I don't recall specifically what it was but the Bengals repeatedly hit him, I think helmet to helmet. Then, they give him the OPI. Now that they might realize that we have more than one weapon hopefully teams revert back to a genuine defensive game plan. And Goodell made a special rule to eject a player after two personal fouls after Josh Norman harassed poor Odell Beckham all game long (wah wah), certainly something like this deserves a worse penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Brandon Marshall is 36% cyborg on his daddy side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 That guy is a ******* scumbag. Could have ended his career for sure. Vince Wilfork levels of POSness there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Bad quality, but you can see what takes place easy enough. Sure as hell doesnt look like an accidental grab to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 6 hours ago, Snell41 said: Ok let's step off the ledge. He didn't purposefully tackle Brandon that way. Had he not taken Brandon down then it's a TD. No NFL player on the planet let's up on that tackle knowing it will lead to a TD. He grabbed the face mask, and by the time he realized it he had no choice but to continue to take him down and prevent the TD. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk What do you mean he didn't purposefully tackle Marshall that way? Yes, he did. He may not have intended to cause an injury, but he sure as hell meant to bring him down by his facemask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Agree with original poster and those who've pointed out what a farce it is that taunting carries the threat of ejection but that kind if 'tackle' doesn't.....made it all the sweeter to see Brandon giving Gilmore the verbal business when he made a sick grab over him after he returned and Gilmore just slunk off sheepishly knowing he was lucky not to get the actual crap beaten out if him for if. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Gilmore is a piece of garbage. All they need is Suh up there with Gilmore and Incognito for the NFL scum trifecta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 There is a rematch game upcoming before the season's end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 13 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: There is a rematch game upcoming before the season's end. I missed the beginning of the game, and I can't watch that video. Hope they have something special planned for Gilmore. Yeah, I said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 8 hours ago, New York Mick said: He should of been kicked out of the game. I was losing my ******* mind. Imagine you can get kicked out for doing the Decker first down " taunt " twice but not for that facemask ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Xtina said: I missed the beginning of the game, and I can't watch that video. Hope they have something special planned for Gilmore. Yeah, I said it. If they do have something special for him, I am sure he won't be 'Happy' Gilmore afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I was going to post about this the next day. You just don't pull a guy down by a facemask like that to avoid giving up a touchdown. You don't clothesline a guy. You don't horsecollar a guy. You don't punch him in the throat to keep him from a first down or catching a ball. You don't clip a guy below the knees. You don't block a guy below the waist while he's engaged with another player. You don't tackle a defenseless receiver by crashing him in the cranium. You don't do any of these things. That ******* tackle was right up there. You got beat, it is no excuse to tackle a guy illegally like a ******* calf roper in the rodeo to keep him from scoring. Did he intentionally try to hurt him? Irrelevant, because he sure as **** didn't care whether he did or not. Hey, whatever happens, happens, right? The Jets should have retaliated. And of course, what you eventually get is rollerball. Suspension. No other choice. You can't reward these kinds of plays with weak punishments. Or the other team starts to take THEIR pound of flesh. I would love that because scumbaggery begets scumbaggery. I was PRAYING for a Jet to destroy Tyrod Taylor and knock him out of the game. Because, **** that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 9 hours ago, joewilly12 said: BULLsh*t Might be best jw12 post ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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