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Just now, FidelioJet said:

So when they win 4 games next year with the new coach your not going to be calling him an idiot and screaming for him to be fired?

I can almost assure you, you will.  And they're not wining more than 4 games next year.

Progress and players trying hard is all I want we arent getting that under the current head there is nothing positive here. 

Wake up 

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Just now, FidelioJet said:

So when they win 4 games next year with the new coach your not going to be calling him an idiot and screaming for him to be fired?

I can almost assure you, you will.  And they're not wining more than 4 games next year.

It's all about how they lose right? I mean this is really bad. There is no effort out there...  

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Just now, joewilly12 said:

Progress and players trying hard is all I want we arent getting that under the current head there is nothing positive here. 

Wake up 

They're going to be very bad next year - and when they get blown (and will a lot) it's going to seem like lack of effort....I promise you - next year you'll be screaming to fire whoever the new coach is (although I think Bowles is back) 

If we ever want to build a program we have to make a choice and stick with it.

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Just now, FidelioJet said:

They're going to be very bad next year - and when they get blown (and will a lot) it's going to seem like lack of effort....I promise you - next year you'll be screaming to fire whoever the new coach is (although I think Bowles is back) 

If we ever want to build a program we have to make a choice and stick with it.

They are bad right now!!!!!!!

We need a change.

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Colts-Type of game that gets you fired.

Dolphins-Type of game that gets you fired.

Cheaters- Type of game that gets you fired.

Bowles' team is not showing much down the stretch here .

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1 minute ago, FidelioJet said:

They're going to be very bad next year - and when they get blown (and will a lot) it's going to seem like lack of effort....I promise you - next year you'll be screaming to fire whoever the new coach is (although I think Bowles is back) 

If we ever want to build a program we have to make a choice and stick with it.

Bowles has clearly showed that putting every thing else aside he is an awful awful coach.  Take away all the possible excuse and isolate on simple things like discipline, time outs, who is in the the roster, which players are playing where.

 

He is totally atrocious in all of those areas.  In my mind there can be no defending this guy at all.

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Bowles seems like a good man.  But for whatever reason this team continues to get blown out and embarrassed.  If today doesn't send Woody over the edge then another embarrassing loss next week surely will.  

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He won 10 games last year and you were all talking about how great he was - He's been given an awful roster, most guys on IR in the league and now you want him fired.  

This organization can't be so reactionary.

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Just now, FidelioJet said:

He won 10 games last year and you were all talking about how great he was - He's been given an awful roster, most guys on IR in the league and now you want him fired.  

This organization can't be so reactionary.

Not me 

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2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

He won 10 games last year and you were all talking about how great he was - He's been given an awful roster, most guys on IR in the league and now you want him fired.  

This organization can't be so reactionary.

not true , the Bears have 19 players in IR , the most in the league.

they are also down to the 3rd QB

 

but they play hard as hell and give full effort every game.

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2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

He won 10 games last year and you were all talking about how great he was - He's been given an awful roster, most guys on IR in the league and now you want him fired.  

This organization can't be so reactionary.

I just haven't seen anything this year that tells me he can do this for the long haul... He's too stubborn with his playcalling, he moves guys out of position, he had very little leadership, the guys don't react to his speeches, the team comes out flat every game and are outscored in the 1st like crazy, he makes very few halftime adjustments, he sat young players too long and I think that attributed to some guys wearing down over the course of the season... I don't know man, I just haven't seen much that tells me this guy should be steering the ship...

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Mo Wilkerson still being on the field is the biggest problem I have with Bowles.  He takes off about half of the plays and the ones he doesn't he only plays about half of that play...

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4 minutes ago, fusionCA said:

not true , the Bears have 19 players in IR , the most in the league.

they are also down to the 3rd QB

 

but they play hard as hell and give full effort every game.

And the Bears have won 3 games.  They're terrible too..it's what happens when you're team is banged up and you're on your 3rd string QB.

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1 minute ago, FidelioJet said:

And the Bears have won 3 games.  They're terrible too..it's what happens when you're team is banged up and you're on your 3rd string QB.

no one is talking about winning

 

effort and heart

Bears play hard

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1 minute ago, fusionCA said:

no one is talking about winning

 

effort and heart

Bears play hard

I can say I haven't watched the Bears play this year -  they have certainly been blown out.

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1 hour ago, drdetroit said:

I want to know how can anyone rationalize this coaching staff having another season.

As long as you are not talking about Mac.

I just do not understand how you lose a team like this in one season.

He lost my vote of confidence kicking a field-goal rather than going down swinging.  Seriously?  Lets make it a 41-3 game.  Hey!  We didn't get shut out though!

 

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1 hour ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

This is a rebuild. We all knew that. This is what it looks like. 

You are delusional..... we need a rebuild.   This is not it. 

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5 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

You are delusional..... we need a rebuild.   This is not it. 

You want to cut all the big names and over paid players this is what it's going to look like. This falls on the plate of Macc. 

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6 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Todd Bowles just said he's done after the season!!!!!!!!!!!!

No. No he didn't. He said he has to have surgery for kidney stones after the season. 

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Just now, CrazyCarl40 said:

No. No he didn't. He said he has to have surgery for kidney stones after the season. 

Oh I was in the next room I thought i heard him say he was probably done after the season. 

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I told myself that there was no outcome for this season, at least record wise, that would cause me to want the team to fire either Maccagnan or Bowles.

I still think Mccagnan should get another year, but I am done with Bowles. 

It's not just the losing, it's how we're losing.

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37 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

You want to cut all the big names and over paid players this is what it's going to look like. This falls on the plate of Macc. 

You know... I'm tired of the pretend know it all.   WHen they do it, tell me. AS long as FITZ, MOE, And REVIS are playing, it's not a rebuild.   

 

We we should never have signed FITZ. Those moves are old school non rebuild.   

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The most damning thing to me is how poor the D is.  Bowles is a defensive specialist and cannot even get that side of the ball right.  Lack of talent notwithstanding, more alarming is the lack of effort.  The team looks flat out lethargic.  This is why he needs to go, as do the rest of the coaches and most of the players.  Bowles is not the guy to lead this team out of the abyss.

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9 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

You know... I'm tired of the pretend know it all.   WHen they do it, tell me. AS long as FITZ, MOE, And REVIS are playing, it's not a rebuild.   

 

We we should never have signed FITZ. Those moves are old school non rebuild.   

I know it was not a rebuild at the beginning. It is now. This last few weeks is what a rebuild looks like with a young QB. That's how it goes. I'm sorry you're sick of people knowing more than you though. That's gotta be tough. Ask santa for some common sense. 

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Still want Bowles as head coach. He was the hottest name for a head coaching job 2 years ago, and we all loved the hire. Not to mention we all loved him up until the Buffalo game last year. And this roster has been destroyed with injury and still doesn't have a QB. One good year, one bad year... let's see what moves we make towards the future. This cycle will never end if we just fire everybody after 2 years or the second things go bad. 

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45 minutes ago, RESNewYork said:

Team did not give up. Outmanned yes. Hoping Bowles Macc gets another year. 

Dear God

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2 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

I know it was not a rebuild at the beginning. It is now. This last few weeks is what a rebuild looks like with a young QB. That's how it goes. I'm sorry you're sick of people knowing more than you though. That's gotta be tough. Ask santa for some common sense. 

Well....  I was gonna insult you back. But I won't.  My multi 6 six figure income gives me all the confidence I need.    I have plenty of common sense.  Common sense tells me the JETS current management couldn't do a rebuild correctly. 

I will chalk this up to 2 Frustrated fans bantering and wish you a healthy and prosperous new year. Seriously.

 

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1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said:

This was not a game to judge Bowles on. He had a college team out there 

His team he and Macc built and players he kept on the roster. 

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Just now, joewilly12 said:

His team he and Macc built and players he kept on the roster. 

11 offensive players. 8 were backups. Nothing to do with that

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