Beerfish Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 because he killed himself and was in the middle of an appeal. As if the justice system could get anymore unlikable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 33 minutes ago, Beerfish said: because he killed himself and was in the middle of an appeal. As if the justice system could get anymore unlikable. Do you need him to be post-humously labeled a criminal according to the law and not just the court of public opinion? If it is true that this ensures his daughter some more cash from his former employer does it matter that he's innocent on a piece of paper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 39 minutes ago, Beerfish said: because he killed himself and was in the middle of an appeal. As if the justice system could get anymore unlikable. I think the Judge in Massachusetts considered the possibility that Aaron meant well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 43 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Do you need him to be post-humously labeled a criminal according to the law and not just the court of public opinion? If it is true that this ensures his daughter some more cash from his former employer does it matter that he's innocent on a piece of paper? Yes it does. And his daughter deserves nothing because her father was a killer who did these things by HIS choice. I'm sure the family of the multiple murder victims deserve what the true victims usually get, a kick in the ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 They should reanimate him so they can kill him again, its called justice folk's. Also his daughter should be in prison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Personally, I like the idea of Bob Kraft paying millions of dollars to a suicidal murderer's estate. Feels good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, slats said: Personally, I like the idea of Bob Kraft paying millions of dollars to a suicidal murderer's estate. Feels good. I tried to like this but couldn't...... but I had to let you know that I wanted to.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 hour ago, kdels62 said: Do you need him to be post-humously labeled a criminal according to the law and not just the court of public opinion? If it is true that this ensures his daughter some more cash from his former employer does it matter that he's innocent on a piece of paper? It means his VICTIMS have a harder time getting his money in court. I don't care about his daughter, she has no inherent right to the money of a murderer. So yes, it matters. It's another **** you to his victims and their families, that time by the fraud that is the "justice system". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Well from what I understand, I don't think it matters as much in a civil lawsuit, right? I remember OJ getting sued even after the acquittal, because the burden of proof is much less in civil suits. From what I heard, the estate is all but broke now, but if Hernandez receives money from the Patriots, wouldn't the victim be able to sue for that money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 6 hours ago, Beerfish said: because he killed himself and was in the middle of an appeal. As if the justice system could get anymore unlikable. look on the bright side. the patsies could be on the hook to pay hernandez's family plus the victims huge bucks because of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 5 hours ago, kdels62 said: Do you need him to be post-humously labeled a criminal according to the law and not just the court of public opinion? If it is true that this ensures his daughter some more cash from his former employer does it matter that he's innocent on a piece of paper? lol, are you kidding me with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 4 hours ago, Warfish said: It means his VICTIMS have a harder time getting his money in court. I don't care about his daughter, she has no inherent right to the money of a murderer. So yes, it matters. It's another **** you to his victims and their families, that time by the fraud that is the "justice system". Pretty sure he's broke. Also this wouldn't affect a civil suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Pretty sure he's broke. Also this wouldn't affect a civil suit. Well in that case who cares right? Odin Lloyd is dead anyways. His family needs to get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Well dam this isn't ending well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Well in that case who cares right? Odin Lloyd is dead anyways. His family needs to get over it. Could you? Its amazing how unaffected some people are but if it happens to them or their loved ones its a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, JetFaninMI said: Could you? Its amazing how unaffected some people are but if it happens to them or their loved ones its a different story. note the sarcasm plz. The law itself is ridiculous, imo. I feel terrible for Lloyd's family here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 5 hours ago, Warfish said: It means his VICTIMS have a harder time getting his money in court. I don't care about his daughter, she has no inherent right to the money of a murderer. So yes, it matters. It's another **** you to his victims and their families, that time by the fraud that is the "justice system". This. He killed himself because of this loophole to screw the victims families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 32 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Pretty sure he's broke. Also this wouldn't affect a civil suit. If the conviction is set aside, then the family can sue the NFL and pats* for wrongful termination and recovery of the remainder of the contract (~$6M) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 5 hours ago, Warfish said: It means his VICTIMS have a harder time getting his money in court. I don't care about his daughter, she has no inherent right to the money of a murderer. So yes, it matters. It's another **** you to his victims and their families, that time by the fraud that is the "justice system". I feel bad for the kid personally. Ain't her fault her old man is a killer. Just a damn shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Part I don't get is by choosing to end his own life he chose to end the appeal and suicide in this case is an admission of guilt if anything.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 5 hours ago, Warfish said: It means his VICTIMS have a harder time getting his money in court. I don't care about his daughter, she has no inherent right to the money of a murderer. So yes, it matters. It's another **** you to his victims and their families, that time by the fraud that is the "justice system". Does it mean that? Because civil suits are different than criminal cases and a jury in a civil suit is highly unlikely to find Hernandez innocent. Now there's also the fact that the Hernandez estate now has more funds for the victims family to recoup. Im sorry that you view the child as guilty of something but the money is owed to Hernandez and his estate which includes his daughter so as much as you seem to think it is her fault that her father is a murderer I guess she'll have something decent come her way. If you want justification for the law, the idea that the appeal is a part of the process and in America you have a right to the process before guilt. Everyone knows he did it, nothing changes except a girl and the victim's family can now access greater assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 5 hours ago, Warfish said: It means his VICTIMS have a harder time getting his money in court. I don't care about his daughter, she has no inherent right to the money of a murderer. So yes, it matters. It's another **** you to his victims and their families, that time by the fraud that is the "justice system". It's not like he made his money murdering. He made it cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Just ate wicked good BBQ chicken here fellas.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 25 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Just ate wicked good BBQ chicken here fellas.. Tell me more..... this time slower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 His lawyer was the same guy who got the baby killing 10 Casey Anthony off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 11 hours ago, kdels62 said: Does it mean that? Because civil suits are different than criminal cases and a jury in a civil suit is highly unlikely to find Hernandez innocent. Now there's also the fact that the Hernandez estate now has more funds for the victims family to recoup. Im sorry that you view the child as guilty of something but the money is owed to Hernandez and his estate which includes his daughter so as much as you seem to think it is her fault that her father is a murderer I guess she'll have something decent come her way. If you want justification for the law, the idea that the appeal is a part of the process and in America you have a right to the process before guilt. Everyone knows he did it, nothing changes except a girl and the victim's family can now access greater assets. Different terminology in civil law. There's no guilty or not guilty its liable or not liable and burden of proof by the plaintiff is 51% unlike reasonable doubt which is basically 95% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 On 5/9/2017 at 1:59 PM, Beerfish said: because he killed himself and was in the middle of an appeal. As if the justice system could get anymore unlikable. Doesn't this mean the Patriots have to pay his estate money now? Makes me like him more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I don't agree with the law, but it's the law. Can't fault the judge. i also don't see the issue.....when the pats pay, a lawsuit will be waiting and the victims will be paid, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 If she's smart, she'll settle with the family so they can get a chunk and she will get a piece as well. She seems like trash, so a few hundred thousand should make her happy. Maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 On 5/9/2017 at 2:35 PM, kdels62 said: Do you need him to be post-humously labeled a criminal according to the law and not just the court of public opinion? If it is true that this ensures his daughter some more cash from his former employer does it matter that he's innocent on a piece of paper? Sure his lawyer going to take most of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goober36 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Yes it does. And his daughter deserves nothing because her father was a killer who did these things by HIS choice. I'm sure the family of the multiple murder victims deserve what the true victims usually get, a kick in the ass. So she deserves nothing that she had no control over? Makes sense...Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 11 hours ago, HighPitch said: I don't agree with the law, but it's the law. Can't fault the judge. i also don't see the issue.....when the pats pay, a lawsuit will be waiting and the victims will be paid, no? That would make sense. As soon as money is given to Hernandez's heirs, the victims family should and will go after it and get it in a civil court case. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 9 hours ago, goober36 said: So she deserves nothing that she had no control over? Makes sense... Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Her father had total control over his actions and knowing that his actions would affect his child. If hernandez played football and pulled down his pro football player cash then his child would be well provided for. He chose to be a killer. just like any criminal makes choices that can affect not only themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JetPotato Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Jesus. The Patriots even get away with murder posthumously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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