Philc1 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, New York Mick said: There’s DEs, OLBs and OL available in FA. Hopefully the new FO is smart enough to get both and draft the best OL in the draft. This team needs more then just one OL. Name me the legit Edge Rusher who will be a UFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Trade the pick to some QB hungry team for their 1 and #2. I think filling up that vacant two pick is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: Guys like Ferrell are like williams, they’re not going to be high sack guys. Don’t see anyone trading up to 3 since there aren’t many QB’s to trade up for. Ferrell not as highly sought as some of the other DL players coming out. At 3, the pick will be either Allen, Jonah, Taylor, Oliver, Rashan, or Q Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Jet_Nation Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 If they can’t trade up to get Bosa, then they take Jonah Williams if he’s still on the board. Otherwise, they might trade down. No worries, Vernon Gholston or Quinton Coples are not available. Nope. Dee Millener anyone? This is where a good GM makes his bones. Question is, can Maccagnan possibly do worse than previous regimes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, The_Jet_Nation said: If they can’t trade up to get Bosa, then they take Jonah Williams if he’s still on the board. Otherwise, they might trade down. No worries, Vernon Gholston or Quinton Coples are not available. Nope. Dee Millener anyone? This is where a good GM makes his bones. Question is, can Maccagnan possibly do worse than previous regimes? Yeah every edge rusher is now Gholston just like every first round OT is Ereck Flowers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, BigO said: Don’t see anyone trading up to 3 since there aren’t many QB’s to trade up for. Ferrell not as highly sought as some of the other DL players coming out. At 3, the pick will be either Allen, Jonah, Taylor, Oliver, Rashan, or Q Williams. Allen is my top choice at 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Name me the legit Edge Rusher who will be a UFA Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, New York Mick said: After failing to trade down the New York Jets select OT - Johan Williams, Alabama Really want to see how he looks against that Clemson defensive front next week; but as of now, I would be okay with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 46 minutes ago, johnnysd said: And the Jets have pretty much proven that unless you get a Donald, these "best player in the draft" defensive lineman dont move the bar at all for the team. Darnold is priority 1, 2, 3 4 and 5. Trade down and let someone else get the low impact "best player in the draft". Frickin learn from history Football is a team sport, no one player besides qb is going to drastically change a teams record. As for trading down, Haskins is the only top qb and you would figure they would trade with either 49ers or Cardinals. As for bpa, if your down on Leonard Williams, you have to remember that was a weak draft class. Quinnen Williams is getting some Suh/Donald comparisons in terms of talent. This is a really deep defensive line draft and Williams is pretty much considered the best defensive lineman. Not comparable to Leonard Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Lith said: Really want to see how he looks against that Clemson defensive front next week; but as of now, I would be okay with this. We can only hope that mccagnan now realizes that he’s got to invest premium picks in the OL b/c his job will also be in jeopardy if darnold is getting crushed like Andrew luck was 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 34 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Mawae, Damien Woody, Brandon Moore were all signed in free agency. The Rams upgraded their OL signing Andrew Whitworth two years ago and he’s been all pro So go ahead and dismiss Matt Paradis, Trent Brown, Mike Iupati etc as JAGs Brandon Moore, unless I'm mistaken, was NOT signed in FA by the NYJ. The NYJ converted him from a DL to OG after he went as an UDFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: Seriously? Appreciate the google effort but here it goes The only names on that list worth even discussing: Lawrence - franchise tag Ansah - huge injury risk and doesn’t fit the 3-4 Wake - franchise tag Fowler - sucks and is a headcase, id be open to signing him but he’s not solving our pass rush problems by himself Clowney - franchise tag Ford - franchise tag Orakpo - 1.5 sacks this year, he’s a name now that’s about it Ray - sucks Barrett - sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Losmeister said: Tom Shane's sideburn stylist He looks like he uses his manscaping razor on his sideburns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, greenwave81 said: Brandon Moore, unless I'm mistaken, was NOT signed in FA by the NYJ. The NYJ converted him from a DL to OG after he went as an UDFA Yes he was he was signed as a rookie free agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: We can only hope that mccagnan now realizes that he’s got to invest premium picks in the OL b/c his job will also be in jeopardy if darnold is getting crushed like Andrew luck was 2 years ago. Yup. OL and Weapons. Then more OL and more weapons. This offseason needs to be built around putting Sam in a position to succeed. Nothing else even comes close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Name me the legit Edge Rusher who will be a UFA There’s only a few. Dee Ford, Trey Flowers, jadeveon Clowney and Frank Clark but you still protect and help the most important piece on the team first and that’s Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, Lith said: Really want to see how he looks against that Clemson defensive front next week; but as of now, I would be okay with this. That and the combine can make or break him. If he’s a beast at both he’ll be a top 2 pick. He can also drop out of the top 10 if he ****s up. I’m thinking he’ll be a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Since a lot of you guys are seriously underestimating Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, New York Mick said: After failing to trade down the New York Jets select OT - Johan Williams, Alabama Please trade down... Williams is not worth the 3rd pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 55 minutes ago, johnnysd said: And the Jets have pretty much proven that unless you get a Donald, these "best player in the draft" defensive lineman dont move the bar at all for the team. Darnold is priority 1, 2, 3 4 and 5. Trade down and let someone else get the low impact "best player in the draft". Frickin learn from history Learn from history? But what if we hadn't drafted Dwayne Robertson Mohammed wilkerson sheldon Richardson Leonard Williams? we never would have all of this success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Skeptable said: Please trade down... Williams is not worth the 3rd pick Do you think he’ll be a solid starter or better for 10 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Trade the pick to some QB hungry team for their 1 and #2. I think filling up that vacant two pick is important. Problem there is to who? Not many top QB’s coming out so the supply is nearly barren. Teams that pick after us all have QB’s. Raiders, Giants (who will not trade with us), Lions, Bucs, Bills in fact, the only team that possibly would trade up would be the Jag who pick 9th and they could wait until after 3 to make a trade. And there will be many veteran QB’s available to be had through trade or FA. There’s going to be a lot of moves made in the QB position by numerous teams. Eli, Stafford, Tannenhill, Foles could switch teams off the top of my head. Sadly, A trade back seems very unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, artemusclyde said: Since a lot of you guys are seriously underestimating Williams. He’s a beast but the last thing the Jets need to do is draft a ******* DL when the offense is so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, New York Mick said: He’s a beast but the last thing the Jets need to do is draft a ******* DL when the offense is so bad. Not a good year for top talent in offense. Jonah Williams doesn't have ideal length for LT, he might end up as a guard/RT. 2020 is the year for top talent in wr, though this is a pretty deep draft for wr when selecting in 2nd/3rd round. Edit: Though the TE class is looking pretty great too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 50 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Mawae, Damien Woody, Brandon Moore were all signed in free agency. The Rams upgraded their OL signing Andrew Whitworth two years ago and he’s been all pro So go ahead and dismiss Matt Paradis, Trent Brown, Mike Iupati etc as JAGs You get an exceptional OL in free agency and you're burning a huge chunk of your cap. The value is in drafting and extending a high end OL. Far more sensible and financially responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I can’t see taking the top OL prospect in a really weak class at #3 overall. I hope we attack the OL in FA and can use one if our 3s and/4 on another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deucebag Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I expect Bosa and Allen to go 1,2 and thats fine with me as I am hoping to switch to a 4-3. Consequently Id flip a coin on Quinnen Williams and Derrick Brown. Then I sign Frank Clark and Branden Graham as a FAs. My 2019 Roster (not incl depth) QB Sam Darnold RB Isiah Crowell RB Tevin Coleman FA RB Bilal Powell RB Trenton Cannon TE Chris Herndon TE Jordan Leggett TE Levine Toilolo FA LT Jake Fisher FA LG Brian Winters C Matt Paradis FA RG Spencer Long RT Kelvin Beachum WR Robby Anderson WR Quincy Enuwa WR Adam Humphries FA WR John Brown FA DE Frank Clark FA DT Quinnen Williams DT Leonard Williams DE Brandon Graham FA OLB Darron Lee MLB Avery Williamson OLB Draft Pick CB Trumaine Johnson CB Rashard Robinson/Draft Pick S Jamaal Adams S Marcus Maye Hows that look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 God. If only Eli McGuire gets tackled short of the goal line a few weeks back. I’d be pre ordering my Bosa jersey already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, artemusclyde said: Not a good year for top talent in offense. Jonah Williams doesn't have ideal length for LT, he might end up as a guard/RT. 2020 is the year for top talent in wr, though this is a pretty deep draft for wr when selecting in 2nd/3rd round. If Williams ends up at RT or OG and is solid I have zero problem with drafting him at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 You guys are all making logical choices for the Jets at #3. That's your first mistake. You have to use Macc Logic. Macc will keep form and go DB. Greedy Williams will be the pick. I said it back in November and I'm saying it again. Book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, jetscanes331 said: Worried his ceiling is as a RT or inside guard. Me too. We need both of those positions as well though. lol So if he's a starting LT, RT or OG he'll have a place on the Jets.....but it certainly wouldn't have been worth the #3 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, New York Mick said: If Williams ends up at RT or OG and is solid I have zero problem with drafting him at 3. If you keep darnold upright he will make jags look good. He’s making guys like Burnett and roberts look like nfl wrs. Makes no sense to me why we would trade so much for a qb and then draft DL when the qb is getting pummeled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, sirlancemehlot said: You get an exceptional OL in free agency and you're burning a huge chunk of your cap. The value is in drafting and extending a high end OL. Far more sensible and financially responsible. Our OLine is so mediocre at so many positions that we need to do both, draft and hit FA. I WISH our issue was that we only needed one key guy on the OLine...or even two. But our biggest issue, similar to our WRs is that we have a lot mediocrity across the board. A bunch of guys hovering just below average. That's a hard problem to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 14 minutes ago, New York Mick said: Do you think he’ll be a solid starter or better for 10 years? Yes... Point is made... But they are without a 2nd rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Me too. We need both of those positions as well though. lol So if he's a starting LT, RT or OG he'll have a place on the Jets.....but it certainly wouldn't have been worth the #3 pick. It's why we should wait for 2020. Reports are saying that class is much better then this year in terms of oline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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