Losmeister Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 34 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Hard to say - the only thing I know for sure is that a faction of Jets fans will continue to hate one of their best players regardless of what happens. You don't even seem to know the meaning of the word hate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 LOLLLLL Williams has been relieved of his duty, but Kacy Rodgers still has his job. I know it is only until the new boss comes in but that to me is friggin hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 47 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: He didn't specify which league. The XFL still has openings. Lingerie league. Perfect for a hands on coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 29 minutes ago, TJ said: Sign this beast master Only if Kodo and Podo come with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said: Hey, fun fact about Williams, he's going on his 8th job in 12 years. Think maybe there's a reason for that I dunno. but he yells alot and baby boomers respect how loud he can be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, choon328 said: Bring him in for DC Before we get a HC. And stick the HC with a DC. It's why fans called Woody a cheap skate and meddler when they thought Shotty was forced on Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Lith said: Bears just lost Fangio -- have the think they would be in play for Williams. Talk about walking into a job where you can't do much better. "D" can only get worse after this last season. I think they were ranked #1. Williams goes to the Jets and he could continue to show what a miracle worker he is!! No where to go but UP!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Lith said: Bears just lost Fangio -- have the think they would be in play for Williams. Word is the Bears are inquiring about Todd Bowles. He hasn’t signed with TB yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, bitonti said: but he yells alot and baby boomers respect how loud he can be Yelling a lot might be just what this underachieving D needs.. you dont think it was odd that absolutely no player have said they'll miss Kacy Rogers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Williams would be an interesting DC choice... He runs sort of a hybrid-46 defense/4-3 scheme, but with more moving parts... Articles about him talk about how his playbook is massive and filled with all sorts of audible flags and situational changes.... The LBs need to be really good at reading offenses to get guys into position. Definitely need a "coach on the field" type to keep the defense set right... I think he's actually a smart coach who can gameplan well... But I get the feeling he rubs players, coaches, and the front office the wrong way everywhere he goes... I wouldn't let that stop the Jets from hiring him, but it's something to look at I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 51 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: LOLLLLL Williams has been relieved of his duty, but Kacy Rodgers still has his job. I know it is only until the new boss comes in but that to me is friggin hilarious Kacy is working in Tampa now, defensive line coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, DMan77 said: Williams would be an interesting DC choice... He runs sort of a hybrid-46 defense/4-3 scheme, but with more moving parts... Articles about him talk about how his playbook is massive and filled with all sorts of audible flags and situational changes.... The LBs need to be really good at reading offenses to get guys into position. Definitely need a "coach on the field" type to keep the defense set right... I think he's actually a smart coach who can gameplan well... But I get the feeling he rubs players, coaches, and the front office the wrong way everywhere he goes... I wouldn't let that stop the Jets from hiring him, but it's something to look at I suppose. That's my thinking. Good coordinators don't get fired this often, especially if they're producing. Regardless, I have no issues if the HC wants him, done want any party of forced marriages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 34 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Before we get a HC. And stick the HC with a DC. It's why fans called Woody a cheap skate and meddler when they thought Shotty was forced on Rex. I didn't say that. I just said they should bring him in to run the defense, especially if you're hiring an offensive HC. I never said to do it before they hire the HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I'd support this move for sure. He'll clean up the entire roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, choon328 said: I didn't say that. I just said they should bring him in to run the defense, especially if you're hiring an offensive HC. I never said to do it before they hire the HC. That's fine but until we get a HC it's premature, that's all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS jets Fan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 We are the J E T S Jesters the joke of the league now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: Definitely. Nothing says trendsetter like 7 jobs in 11 years. 2 hours ago, jetspenguin said: where did his D rank? If they were good I can care less how long he lasted there Going back to 2004 (when Williams took the DC job in Washington), here's how Williams' defenses have ranked, from Football Outsiders: Washington (2004-07) 2004: # 4 2005: # 3 2006: # 32 2007: # 7 Jacksonville (2008) 2008: # 24 New Orleans (2009-11) 2009: # 23 2010: # 10 2011: # 25 St. Louis (2012) 2012: # 8 Tennessee (2013) 2013: # 21 St. Louis/LA (2014-16) 2014: # 6 2015: # 11 2016: # 17 Cleveland (2017-18) 2017: # 16 2018: # 20 Summary (15 years as DC) Top 10 finishes: 6x Middle of the Pack (11-20): 4x Outside of Top 20: 5 So, Mixed results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef 2018: 12 2017: 16 2016: 15 2015: 7 2014: 9 2013: 22 2012: 7 2011: 28 2010: 10 2009: 17 2008: 24 Culture creator. Past 5 years always in the Top Half of the NFL. Two times in the Top 10. I could deal with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenamathwouldn'tcry Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Guess Baker Mayfield decided not to retain him. Wouldn't be too concerned about the number of jobs. Lost his job in "Bountygate", had two stints with the Rams, maybe didn't get along with Jeff Fisher, no surprise there, but was brought back for an additional two years. There's no reason to believe that he wouldn't have been retained by the Browns, but for the coaching change, based on the performance of this years' defense. Strong personality for sure, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 4 hours ago, bitonti said: but he yells alot and baby boomers respect how loud he can be we need someone to get in here and whip these guys into shape otherwise jamal wont stop the tweeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I want him just to make the millennials upset and feel like they need a safe place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 5 hours ago, choon328 said: Bring him in for DC Shouldn't we hire a HC first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 the jets should consider this guy for dc. make him assistant hc, defense. it wouldn't be the first time a hc had to coach with an already established staff. rex had to do it with schitty. and wasn't sutton mangini's dc? and of course westoff was there for rex too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Going back to 2004 (when Williams took the DC job in Washington), here's how Williams' defenses have ranked, from Football Outsiders: Washington (2004-07) 2004: # 4 2005: # 3 2006: # 32 2007: # 7 Jacksonville (2008) 2008: # 24 New Orleans (2009-11) 2009: # 23 2010: # 10 2011: # 25 St. Louis (2012) 2012: # 8 Tennessee (2013) 2013: # 21 St. Louis/LA (2014-16) 2014: # 6 2015: # 11 2016: # 17 Cleveland (2017-18) 2017: # 16 2018: # 20 Summary (15 years as DC) Top 10 finishes: 6x Middle of the Pack (11-20): 4x Outside of Top 20: 5 So, Mixed results. yes but he doesn't have streaks of years in the bottom 20. wasn't bowles/kacy in the bottom 20 4 years straight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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