JetNation Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Now that Sam Darnold’s return to action is officially slated for this Sunday versus the Dallas Cowboys, it’s time to take a look at the overall impact he stands to have on Gang Green moving forward. First and foremost, if Darnold plays anywhere near as well as he did toward the end of last season, he’ll have an immediate impact on the offensive line and running game. The Jets O-line is bad, but they’ve been made to look a whole lot worse while facing defenses who have zero reason to respect the quarterback. Poor play from Luke Falk has allowed opposing defenses to stack the box with 8 or 9 defenders, overwhelming the Jets blockers at times. Certainly they’ve lost their fair share of one-on-one battles, but they’ve also faced plenty of fronts in which the number of oncoming attackers outnumbered the Jets blockers. All it will take is for Darnold to connect on a few attempts down the field to get defenses to back off and make life easier on the offensive line. This, of course would mean more room to work with for Le’Veon Bell, who has been consistently hit in the backfield through the season’s first four games. Getting Bell going is critical in allowing the offense to start sustaining drives and scoring points. Last, and certainly not least, is how much better Darnold can make head coach Adam Gase look. While the Jets inept offense has led countless fans to rip the organization for hiring him in the first place, Jets beat writer Rich Cimini shared this little nugget on the Jets receivers that should reflect well on Gase. According to Cimini, Jets receivers stand atop of the NFL (yes, number 1 of 32) in their rate of “open targets” at 55.9%. The Jets lead the league with the highest rate of “open” targets — 55.9 percent. (An open target is a pass target when the separation between the receiver and nearest defender is three-plus yards at pass arrival.) Despite this, the Jets are averaging a league-low 131 passing yards per game. It isn’t difficult to figure out what’s happening there. This is according to NFL Next Gen stats ,which tracks the movement of every player on the field, classifying an open receiver as any player with three or more yards between himself and the nearest defender. With Luke Falk misfiring all over the field, an open receiver didn’t amount to much. If Gase can continue to scheme receivers open at that rate and Darnold is on target, all of a sudden Darnold’s presence can help get this thing turned around in a hurry. If not, Gase may be looking for work sooner than anyone could have anticipated. The post Here’s the Ripple Effect Jets are Hoping for With Darnold Return appeared first on JetNation.com (NY Jets Blog & Forum). Click here to read the full story... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, JetNation said: Now that Sam Darnold’s return to action is officially slated for this Sunday versus the Dallas Cowboys, it’s time to take a look at the overall impact he stands to have on Gang Green moving forward. First and foremost, if Darnold plays anywhere near as well as he did toward the end of last season, he’ll have an immediate impact on the offensive line and running game. The Jets O-line is bad, but they’ve been made to look a whole lot worse while facing defenses who have zero reason to respect the quarterback. Poor play from Luke Falk has allowed opposing defenses to stack the box with 8 or 9 defenders, overwhelming the Jets blockers at times. Certainly they’ve lost their fair share of one-on-one battles, but they’ve also faced plenty of fronts in which the number of oncoming attackers outnumbered the Jets blockers. All it will take is for Darnold to connect on a few attempts down the field to get defenses to back off and make life easier on the offensive line. This, of course would mean more room to work with for Le’Veon Bell, who has been consistently hit in the backfield through the season’s first four games. Getting Bell going is critical in allowing the offense to start sustaining drives and scoring points. Last, and certainly not least, is how much better Darnold can make head coach Adam Gase look. While the Jets inept offense has led countless fans to rip the organization for hiring him in the first place, Jets beat writer Rich Cimini shared this little nugget on the Jets receivers that should reflect well on Gase. According to Cimini, Jets receivers stand atop of the NFL (yes, number 1 of 32) in their rate of “open targets” at 55.9%. The Jets lead the league with the highest rate of “open” targets — 55.9 percent. (An open target is a pass target when the separation between the receiver and nearest defender is three-plus yards at pass arrival.) Despite this, the Jets are averaging a league-low 131 passing yards per game. It isn’t difficult to figure out what’s happening there. This is according to NFL Next Gen stats ,which tracks the movement of every player on the field, classifying an open receiver as any player with three or more yards between himself and the nearest defender. With Luke Falk misfiring all over the field, an open receiver didn’t amount to much. If Gase can continue to scheme receivers open at that rate and Darnold is on target, all of a sudden Darnold’s presence can help get this thing turned around in a hurry. If not, Gase may be looking for work sooner than anyone could have anticipated. The post Here’s the Ripple Effect Jets are Hoping for With Darnold Return appeared first on JetNation.com (NY Jets Blog & Forum). Click here to read the full story... very true although the oline didn't look so good in the first game. here's to hoping that was more a function of kalil not being ready as opposed to the players being a lot worse than they were last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, JetNation said: Last, and certainly not least, is how much better Darnold can make head coach Adam Gase look. While the Jets inept offense has led countless fans to rip the organization for hiring him in the first place, Jets beat writer Rich Cimini shared this little nugget on the Jets receivers that should reflect well on Gase. According to Cimini, Jets receivers stand atop of the NFL (yes, number 1 of 32) in their rate of “open targets” at 55.9%. The Jets lead the league with the highest rate of “open” targets — 55.9 percent. (An open target is a pass target when the separation between the receiver and nearest defender is three-plus yards at pass arrival.) Despite this, the Jets are averaging a league-low 131 passing yards per game. It isn’t difficult to figure out what’s happening there. Click here to read the full story... WHAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Yeah, but aren't the Jets also like last in sacks allowed? Sure, Falk holds the ball too long, but still Sam's gonna have to contend with not having enough time to locate an open receiver on many pass attempts. I'm hopeful that the O will look much better than it has so far this season, but that OL is still a trash heap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Drums said: WHAT DOUBLE...PROBABLY TRIPLE...WHAAAAAT? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKnight83 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I sure hope you are right. I would hate to see the kid taking a pounding because of poor OL play over the next few games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Let's not get hopes too high but even Ray Charles could see that the Jets should be much better with Sam Darnold under Center. Adding Herndon helps as well. The ripple effect should be multiple....Having both of those guys will make life easier on Le'Veon Bell. And, being able to run the ball and string a couple of 1st downs together will make life easier on a Defense that should ALSO BE BETTER with guys like Mosely, Jenkins, Copeland coming back either this week or next. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 If the game plan is to make Darold a stationery target we are in trouble. Most plays need to be a controlled roll out and for gods sake forget the complex blocking schemes that let opponents come in free and unblocked. (the weakness of the zone blocking scheme) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, JetNation said: Last, and certainly not least, is how much better Darnold can make head coach Adam Gase look. While the Jets inept offense has led countless fans to rip the organization for hiring him in the first place, Jets beat writer Rich Cimini shared this little nugget on the Jets receivers that should reflect well on Gase. According to Cimini, Jets receivers stand atop of the NFL (yes, number 1 of 32) in their rate of “open targets” at 55.9%. The Jets lead the league with the highest rate of “open” targets — 55.9 percent. (An open target is a pass target when the separation between the receiver and nearest defender is three-plus yards at pass arrival.) Despite this, the Jets are averaging a league-low 131 passing yards per game. It isn’t difficult to figure out what’s happening there. This is according to NFL Next Gen stats ,which tracks the movement of every player on the field, classifying an open receiver as any player with three or more yards between himself and the nearest defender. With Luke Falk misfiring all over the field, an open receiver didn’t amount to much. If Gase can continue to scheme receivers open at that rate and Darnold is on target, all of a sudden Darnold’s presence can help get this thing turned around in a hurry. If not, Gase may be looking for work sooner than anyone could have anticipated. The post Here’s the Ripple Effect Jets are Hoping for With Darnold Return appeared first on JetNation.com (NY Jets Blog & Forum). Click here to read the full story... This last segment is actually mind-blowing, and could be quite significant. I actually think this O will do well with Darnold back, especially in the pass game. This is also not even taking into account the return of Herndon as a lethal TE target. We all remember how solid our offense was looking through TC and preseason until Darnold got sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Drums said: WHAT interesting. vewwwy intewesting 1 hour ago, JetNation said: This is according to NFL Next Gen stats ,which tracks the movement of every player on the field, classifying an open receiver as any player with three or more yards between himself and the nearest defender. i like it makes me know my guts are correct... meaning? so many here keep saying Gases schemes suck blah blah blah... not enough rollouts blah blah blah... the normal view we see watching on the TV you cant see downfield well.... so i shut my mouf cos i cant see schitt. nfl next gen stats dont GAF about Gase one way or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, TheClashFan said: Sure, Falk holds the ball too long i was watching all the sacks... at least 3-4 were on him if not more... never watced them all... i had to get up and puke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Still like to know if Kalil is actually that bad why TF don't they start Harrison. Not wanting to ruin Kalil's psych is the only thing I can think of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 55 minutes ago, Beerfish said: If the game plan is to make Darold a stationery target we are in trouble. Most plays need to be a controlled roll out and for gods sake forget the complex blocking schemes that let opponents come in free and unblocked. (the weakness of the zone blocking scheme) I remember ESNY made a video about the first Miami game last year. Gase ran a lot of option plays and they were successful. I was expecting to see some when we played Buffalo but, with the Mono, it’s better we didn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nixhead Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 There is a reason why the Jets receivers have a good open percentage - because other teams and loading up the box for run and pass blitzing knowing all along that there is almost no way the Jets 4th string QB can hit the open receiver in the tenth of a second he has to make that decision with 3 unblocked rushers about to crush him. Its just not gonna happen. There won't be so many open receivers with Darnold QB because the opposition will respect Darnolds passing ability a bit more. Might open up the running game a bit. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Nixhead said: There is a reason why the Jets receivers have a good open percentage - because other teams and loading up the box for run and pass blitzing knowing all along that there is almost no way the Jets 4th string QB can hit the open receiver in the tenth of a second he has to make that decision with 3 unblocked rushers about to crush him. Its just not gonna happen. There won't be so many open receivers with Darnold QB because the opposition will respect Darnolds passing ability a bit more. Might open up the running game a bit. I said the same thing in another thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Every fan should be very worried that we lose our last hope in Darnold this weekend. Putting him out on the field in back of this OL? It's like making him pass for 400 yards while dodging Belt Parkway traffic. Not smart. Just saying... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 21 minutes ago, NYJ1 said: Every fan should be very worried that we lose our last hope in Darnold this weekend. Putting him out on the field in back of this OL? It's like making him pass for 400 yards while dodging Belt Parkway traffic. Not smart. Just saying... Football players...play football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 21 minutes ago, NYJ1 said: Every fan should be very worried that we lose our last hope in Darnold this weekend. Putting him out on the field in back of this OL? It's like making him pass for 400 yards while dodging Belt Parkway traffic. Not smart. Just saying... Alex Lewis actually looked good Sunday a positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Let the dominos fall... Darnold gets the passing game going. The passing game going will open the running game. The running game will lead to longer offensive possessions and a rested defense. A rested defense will be a better defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpain Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Hoping for the best but tough to believe Darnold after a month of being sidelined sick is going to feel his 100% normal self. After being sick it's gonna take him time to get his strength back and his legs back. Hope I'm wrong. That could put him in a tough spot behind this line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 The oline is trash but if he comes out and has a great game. I’ll be a believer 110%. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 55 minutes ago, NYJ1 said: Every fan should be very worried that we lose our last hope in Darnold this weekend. Putting him out on the field in back of this OL? It's like making him pass for 400 yards while dodging Belt Parkway traffic. Not smart. Just saying... This comes from the "lets sit him all season because he might get hurt crowd"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 2 hours ago, GKnight83 said: I sure hope you are right. I would hate to see the kid taking a pounding because of poor OL play over the next few games. Francesa made a point today that I actually agree with. If Gase can't figure out how to protect Darnold and still leaves him out there, he deserves to be fired. Essentially he was saying we shouldn't have a repeat of the Andrew Luck situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 22 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Francesa made a point today that I actually agree with. If Gase can't figure out how to protect Darnold and still leaves him out there, he deserves to be fired. Essentially he was saying we shouldn't have a repeat of the Andrew Luck situation. I’ve said this myself, and agree 100% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 56 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Francesa made a point today that I actually agree with. If Gase can't figure out how to protect Darnold and still leaves him out there, he deserves to be fired. Essentially he was saying we shouldn't have a repeat of the Andrew Luck situation. I can't disagree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 hours ago, rangerous said: very true although the oline didn't look so good in the first game. here's to hoping that was more a function of kalil not being ready as opposed to the players being a lot worse than they were last season. Neither did the Pats against the Bills and that's with the added benefit of being allowed to hold on every play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Id love more context around that separation stat. It’s easy to be open by 3 yards when all your passes are at or behind the LOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 16 hours ago, jetstream23 said: Let's not get hopes too high but even Ray Charles could see that the Jets should be much better with Sam Darnold under Center. Adding Herndon helps as well. The ripple effect should be multiple....Having both of those guys will make life easier on Le'Veon Bell. And, being able to run the ball and string a couple of 1st downs together will make life easier on a Defense that should ALSO BE BETTER with guys like Mosely, Jenkins, Copeland coming back either this week or next. the ball will come out of Sam's hand. Falk could not let go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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