Jetster Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Where else would Daryl Roberts be a #1 CB? Where else would Chuma Edoga be a starting LT? Where else would Brian Winters be a starting RG? Where else would Ryan Griffin be a starting TE? Where else would Lewis (considered a backup in Baltimore), Harrison (Kalil was brought in for a reason), or Brandon Shell be starting in this league? We just traded 1 of maybe 4 guys on defense that could start for another team in this league in Leo because that's how desperate Joe Douglas is for draft picks to work with in 2020. Let it sink in. There are 32 teams in this league & we have just a handful of guys that would start on ANY OF THEM. I'm choosing to accept where we are, hope we can pick high enough for a tradeback haul & come to grips with the fact that everything will rest on how Joe Douglas drafts, signs free agents and constructs my New York Jets over the next 3 years. It might take that long to truly compete if things go right for him. We could see an uptick next year with guys back healthy. I just want to see a team that gets BETTER as the year progresses & gives us some hope for the future. Just keeping it real. I'm at at peace with it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 yup. Robby is a WR3/WR2.... who'd be in on all 3WR sets, and a smattering of 2WR sets. and Winters has sucked/started forever... and ever since he put on the uni i have called him out and been berated... until now.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Only because our number 1 (Enunwa) is out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Honestly, this team needs a better program to keep its players healthy. There are several players injured who would start for other teams. Tough to expect our backups we knew were bad to start for other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, varjet said: Honestly, this team needs a better program to keep its players healthy. There are several players injured who would start for other teams. Tough to expect our backups we knew were bad to start for other teams. I said a "HANDFUL" let me know the others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Maybe if they played for the Mean Machine..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, varjet said: Honestly, this team needs a better program to keep its players healthy. There are several players injured who would start for other teams. Tough to expect our backups we knew were bad to start for other teams. That's the point. 3 guys are on IR that would start for other teams & only 1 is a star player (MLB CJ Mosely). Enunwas career should be over, we have no idea yet what will become of Avery Williamson? He's relatively cheap so I think Douglas keeps him after seeing us go down 5 deep with injuries at MLB this year 7 games in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 29 minutes ago, Jetster said: everything will rest on how Joe Douglas drafts, signs free agents and constructs my New York Jets over the next 3 years. basically the gist of the how to recuperate/rebuild an NFL team post using Falcons as an example... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 He's a mid-low end WR2. Nothing more, nothing less. We should bring him back for a little less than Tyler Boyd money rather than let him walk for nothing. Then go look for a WR1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Losmeister said: basically the gist of the how to recuperate/rebuild an NFL team post using Falcons as an example... We know this about Joe Douglas, he will do everything in his power to fix the Oline. It's the #1 priority. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, August said: Only because our number 1 (Enunwa) is out. And calling Enunwa a number 1 is generous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, sciond said: Maybe of they played for the Mean Machine..... Robby almost did. I say it all all the time if not on the NY Jets roster most players wouldn't be in the NFL. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 There are a lot of different ways to say the same thing, this team drafted horrifically and lacks a depth of talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, Jetster said: We know this about Joe Douglas, he will do everything in his power to fix the Oline. It's the #1 priority. true. however, look at the Brownies... Landry and OBJ and a good/decent runblock OL, a bottom third passpro OL and Baker is still at like 40 QBR. Just not that good. Same may be true for BackfootBabySeeinGhostSam. (35 QBR,....45 last yr) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Losmeister said: true. however, look at the Brownies... Landry and OBJ and a good/decent runblock OL, a bottom third passpro OL and Baker is still at like 37 QBR. Just not that good. Same may be true for BackfootBabySeeinGhostSam. I just think Sam needs an offseason reset with his fundamentals, a revamped Oline, a True go get the the ball #1 WR & a stern talking to about throwing the ball away instead of trying to win every play. You get Bell going next year, add another WR with Herndon back, Crowder things will just naturally fall into place. NOTHING went right this year. The last thing this thin azz terrible squad needed was injuries across the board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 “Let that sink in” Lol. Are you of the mindset that you just shared some new information that none of us knew? Guys... Guys... You may be surprised to hear this, but the Jets players... are bad. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, Jetster said: Sam needs an offseason reset with his fundamentals as in the pre-draft crits i pasted... these were NEVER SET... he has always had shoddy footwork and made too many arm throws, and thrown INTS at a one a game rate.... notice how all the Sam support wouldnt bite on my 2:1 td/int ratio bet offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Arron Rodgers can make anyone a #1 WR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, prime21 said: Arron Rodgers can make anyone a #1 WR. lol I don't know who Arron is, but let's get him and hope he doesn't die behind Chuma Edoga. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funaz Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Jetster said: Where else would Daryl Roberts be a #1 CB? Where else would Chuma Edoga be a starting LT? Where else would Brian Winters be a starting RG? Where else would Ryan Griffin be a starting TE? Where else would Lewis (considered a backup in Baltimore), Harrison (Kalil was brought in for a reason), or Brandon Shell be starting in this league? We just traded 1 of maybe 4 guys on defense that could start for another team in this league in Leo because that's how desperate Joe Douglas is for draft picks to work with in 2020. Let it sink in. There are 32 teams in this league & we have just a handful of guys that would start on ANY OF THEM. I'm choosing to accept where we are, hope we can pick high enough for a tradeback haul & come to grips with the fact that everything will rest on how Joe Douglas drafts, signs free agents and constructs my New York Jets over the next 3 years. It might take that long to truly compete if things go right for him. We could see an uptick next year with guys back healthy. I just want to see a team that gets BETTER as the year progresses & gives us some hope for the future. Just keeping it real. I'm at at peace with it. He would be a #1 anyplace with a franchise QB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 To answer the OP’s topic question: Temple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Jetster said: Where else would Daryl Roberts be a #1 CB? Where else would Chuma Edoga be a starting LT? Where else would Brian Winters be a starting RG? Where else would Ryan Griffin be a starting TE? Where else would Lewis (considered a backup in Baltimore), Harrison (Kalil was brought in for a reason), or Brandon Shell be starting in this league? We just traded 1 of maybe 4 guys on defense that could start for another team in this league in Leo because that's how desperate Joe Douglas is for draft picks to work with in 2020. Let it sink in. There are 32 teams in this league & we have just a handful of guys that would start on ANY OF THEM. I'm choosing to accept where we are, hope we can pick high enough for a tradeback haul & come to grips with the fact that everything will rest on how Joe Douglas drafts, signs free agents and constructs my New York Jets over the next 3 years. It might take that long to truly compete if things go right for him. We could see an uptick next year with guys back healthy. I just want to see a team that gets BETTER as the year progresses & gives us some hope for the future. Just keeping it real. I'm at at peace with it. all good points. it's the main reason why gase is going to get a pass. i don't think anyone realized the full extent of incompetence mac had as a gm. except for darnold, adams, maye and maybe q williams mac left this team with very little. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Losmeister said: yup. Robby is a WR3/WR2.... who'd be in on all 3WR sets, and a smattering of 2WR sets. and Winters has sucked/started forever... and ever since he put on the uni i have called him out and been berated... until now.. Oh poor, poor, pitiful you. I am sure people berated you for just cause. Brian Winters has been beaten up around here for ages. Most of the board has been trying to replace Brian Winters since before his rookie deal was up. Several of us wanted to try to re-up him cheap, others wanted to let him walk. Nobody wanted to wait until the eve of free agency and give him a market price contract for a starting guard. I know that Sperm and I have long diatribes on the subject. Stop acting like you were on the cutting edge of fandom because you don't like Brian Winters. Brian Winters is a mediocre player that is always dinged. There are plenty of worse players starting in the NFL. He might actually be the best player on this offensive line. That is the major problem. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Oh poor, poor, pitiful you. sod off arsheloch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Losmeister said: sod off arsheloch Wah! Wah! My delicate feelings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 29 minutes ago, funaz said: He would be a #1 anyplace with a franchise QB Incorrect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Wah! Wah! My delicate feelings! you write paragraphs, i say phuk off, shrug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 44 minutes ago, prime21 said: Arron Rodgers can make anyone a #1 WR. Aaron Rogers & Tom Brady are 2 of the best QBs to ever play the game. Yea, and Reggie White, Darrelle Revis, Ed Reed & a healthy CJ Mosely might make GW look a bit better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 44 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: lol I don't know who Arron is, but let's get him and hope he doesn't die behind Chuma Edoga. Chuma might end up like a Wayne Hunter footnote in Jets history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Rutgers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Jetster said: Where else would Daryl Roberts be a #1 CB? Where else would Chuma Edoga be a starting LT? Where else would Brian Winters be a starting RG? Where else would Ryan Griffin be a starting TE? Where else would Lewis (considered a backup in Baltimore), Harrison (Kalil was brought in for a reason), or Brandon Shell be starting in this league? We just traded 1 of maybe 4 guys on defense that could start for another team in this league in Leo because that's how desperate Joe Douglas is for draft picks to work with in 2020. Let it sink in. There are 32 teams in this league & we have just a handful of guys that would start on ANY OF THEM. I'm choosing to accept where we are, hope we can pick high enough for a tradeback haul & come to grips with the fact that everything will rest on how Joe Douglas drafts, signs free agents and constructs my New York Jets over the next 3 years. It might take that long to truly compete if things go right for him. We could see an uptick next year with guys back healthy. I just want to see a team that gets BETTER as the year progresses & gives us some hope for the future. Just keeping it real. I'm at at peace with it. XFL. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Losmeister said: you write paragraphs, i say phuk off, shrug. Yes. That adds so much to the conversation. I am sorry reading a factual analysis detracts from your time spent patting yourself on the back for realizing that our poorly composed, talentless roster was lacking talent before the last three or four homers that woke up on Sunday. I do enjoy reading your insults. Are they written in Celtic? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Robbie has been a big disappointment. I was completely wrong about him, I thought he was a low level 1 or at least would be this year. I thought he would evolve to a more well rounder receiver. He's simply not strong enough - he gets pushed around way too easily to be a multi-dimensional receiver. He's a 3... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Maxman said: XFL. Outside of a few players in unimportant positions, this roster is very similar to what was the old Europe NFL summer league looked like. Hell, watching Golden Tate physically 1 hand that ball on the goal line made me realize he's better than any WR the Jets have here including the oft injured reserve Enunwa. Our players STINK! Watch Redzone and you really understand this teams roster for the most part is an expansion team. Except we didn't have the opportunity to draft Tony Boselli. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 55 minutes ago, funaz said: He would be a #1 anyplace with a franchise QB Completely disagree. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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