Is it Too Soon to Start Morgan?

[JetBlue]

If Darnold hurt his shoulder, doesn't it make sense to give him a week off to heal?  Maybe giving a week off will allow him to get his head together and come back refreshed.  Hopefully by then he will get one or more of his walking wounded receivers and L. Bell back as well to go with Crowder and Smith.  

Why not give Morgan a shot and see what we have?  Lets face it, we will be drafting a quarterback next season so why not see what Morgan has so we can maximize his value in a trade?   If he plays a game or two and looks decent, that will give us good game film to use with other teams.    What the heck do we have to lose?      

[HawkeyeJet]

Our 3rd overall pick that was universally considered a very good prospect couldn't develop in this situation, why would we want to subject Morgan to it right now?  What good would that do to him?

[Beerfish]

You do not throw 4th round QBs to the wolves, you only throw 1st round QBs the the wolves.

The Jets have to justify the fact they signed flacco thus he will play.  Also Gase wants to keep his job so Flacco will play.

[DoubleDown]

This is a redshirt year for Morgan.  Flacco was signed to a one year contract for a reason.

[varjet]

2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

You do not throw 4th round QBs to the wolves, you only throw 1st round QBs the the wolves.

The Jets have to justify the fact they signed flacco thus he will play.  Also Gase wants to keep his job so Flacco will play.

If Flacco was smart he would flee.  

[southtown24th]

why the hell would we do that?

[Jetster]

1 minute ago, varjet said:

If Flacco was smart he would flee.  

He won’t have to he’ll get hurt like everyone else & Morgan will have to play. 
 

[Barry McCockinner]

The last thing I want to see is Joe Flacco taking snaps but this is not a situation to throw a rookie QB in to unless you want to ruin them.

[JetPotato]

6 minutes ago, varjet said:

If Flacco was smart he would flee.  

Smart? Is he even able to flee? I feel for Joe. He's not going to fare well behind this offensive line.

[Icer]

Gase will start Flacco and Gore, but I'd much rather see Mike White, David Fales, or James Morgan. At least one of those could stick with the team in a backup role longer than a year

[flgreen]

Flacco will start, but

This is the perfect place for Morgan.  If he sucks, back to the bench

[Beerfish]

15 minutes ago, DoubleDown said:

This is a redshirt year for Morgan.  Flacco was signed to a one year contract for a reason.

Please....nooooo

[Sarge4Tide]

Wait, is it "International Say the Stupidest Damn Thing That Pops Into Your Head Day" again already?

[JetBlue]

22 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

Our 3rd overall pick that was universally considered a very good prospect couldn't develop in this situation, why would we want to subject Morgan to it right now?  What good would that do to him?

Every player is different.  Why not give him some reps?  We have no idea how he would react.   Let's face it we are DRAFTING A QUARTERBACK next year so I really don't care about "grooming" a back up.  Let him play and see how he handles things.  He could surprise some folks and certainly can't do any worse.   

[JetBlue]

2 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

Wait, is it "International Say the Stupidest Damn Thing That Pops Into Your Head Day" again already?

Why is that stupid? Didn't we draft this guy as Sams back up?  If Sam hurt is shoulder, why is stupid to give his drafted back up a chance to play?   Btw I don't know if you consider this stupid but GFY.   

[JetBlue]

27 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

You do not throw 4th round QBs to the wolves, you only throw 1st round QBs the the wolves.

The Jets have to justify the fact they signed flacco thus he will play.  Also Gase wants to keep his job so Flacco will play.

Exactly.  Folks acting like we got Peyton Manning on the bench and don't want to "ruin him".  Give me a ******* break.   If Sam can't go, why not give him shot instead of lead foot Flacco?  

[Beerfish]

4 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

Wait, is it "International Say the Stupidest Damn Thing That Pops Into Your Head Day" again already?

And thus the reason Joe douglas deserves every bit of flack he has gotten for drafting a QB in the 4th round who you hope never ever ever sees the field (due to darnold or trevor lawrence or QB of your choice). This when we had huge holes at Wr, TE, CB, etc etc

[Lith]

One of the advnatages of starting Flacco is we can see how an experienced QB looks behind this line and with the same weapons Darnold has.  Flacco's best years are behind him, but he knows he to read defenses, set protections, go through progressions and get the ball to the right receiver.  A couple of games with Flacco starting could give us a better read on how much is on Darnold and how much is on the team around him.

[Jetster]

25 minutes ago, JetBlue said:

Every player is different.  Why not give him some reps?  We have no idea how he would react.   Let's face it we are DRAFTING A QUARTERBACK next year so I really don't care about "grooming" a back up.  Let him play and see how he handles things.  He could surprise some folks and certainly can't do any worse.   

I agree with you, we started Fales last year ?. 

[Gangrene]

It was meant to be a red shirt year for Rummy Morgan  but here to get you excited, James Morgan's piece in the Player Tribute, April 19th 2020

 

MOST RECENT | NFL

 

A Letter to NFL GMs

PHOTO BY

SAMUEL LEWIS/ICON SPORTSWIRE VIA GETTY IMAGES

 

James Morgan

NEW YORK JETS

APR 19 2020

Dear NFL General Managers,

I come from a family of football players and lawyers. My dad was a state championship QB at Columbus High in Marshfield, Wisconsin. My aunt is a government attorney, and my grandfather was a lawyer, too.

In college, I decided I wanted to do both. Law is the only subject that I’m as passionate about as I am about football. There’s actually a lot of overlap between the preparation it takes to be a quarterback and the amount of studying it takes to be a lawyer. You have to be detail-oriented. You have to love a challenge. Someone who won’t rest until they’ve exhausted every possible solution.

That’s me. I graduated magna cum laude in three years from Bowling Green with a prelaw degree.

So when the invitation to the NFL combine hit my inbox, I didn’t jump for joy or sit back in awe — I went straight into preparation mode. I knew I would have to overcome a lot of doubters because I was from a mid-major school — I transferred from Bowling Green to Florida International before my junior season — but I was also completely confident in my abilities as a quarterback. I know I can play at the NFL level. I saw it as my job at the combine to prove that to you — and hopefully, I did.

I’m sure that some players find the long days at the combine exhausting, but digging into the most minute aspects of the game, talking strategy, dissecting playbooks? I love those things. I could do that all day. In college, I was the guy who stayed up all night coming up with new plays for seven-on-seven drills. That’s me: I’m a detail nerd.

Don’t get me wrong, though, I’m not just about crunching numbers and analyzing film.

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I may prepare like Peyton Manning, but if you dissect my style as a quarterback you’re going to see just as many similarities to the styles of Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers. I grew up in Green Bay, about 15 minutes from where they both made the magic happen. I went to high school less than a mile from Lambeau Field.

I wasn’t the only kid in town who worshipped Favre, but I made sure to wear number 4 in middle school. I also tried to copy his methods on the field to the best of my ability. I’ve got that gunslinger mentality — I’m not afraid to take risks because I’m confident in my arm.

Courtesy of James Morgan

Rodgers took over when I was in high school, and I changed my number to 12. (Sorry, Brett.) Mimicking aspects of his game meant that sometimes I would opt for the safer throw to pick up quick yards, instead of forcing something deep.

I was a four-star recruit out of Ashwaubenon High, one of the top 25 quarterbacks in the nation — I threw for the fifth-most career passing yards in state history. I was hoping to get a look from Wisconsin, but nothing came. They didn’t recruit me at all. In fact, I wasn’t offered by any Power Five schools. I was confused and pretty hurt. But it made me want to chase my dreams even more. It was a feeling I’ve carried with me ever since: I’ll prove you wrong.

As a redshirt freshman at Bowling Green in 2015, I was incredibly fortunate to learn under head coach Dino Babers and quarterbacks coach Sean Lewis. But they left for Syracuse before I ever played a game. The next fall, with a new system with new coaches, I won the QB job and had a decent season. But our team struggled when I was a sophomore and changes were made, including at quarterback. I was surprised and disappointed — and forced to make a decision.

One of my old coaches had always told me, “Believe in spite of the evidence, and then watch the evidence change.” And for me, despite the tough season, my resiliency and my belief in myself had never been stronger. I was eager to compete for the game and the position I loved. Bowling Green was a great introduction to college football, a great place to get my feet wet, but I was hungry to get back on the field and lead a team — like I knew I could.

I purchased a physical list of more than 100 schools for $50 from a friend who ran a recruiting service. I sent out emails and highlight videos to 30 different teams. Only one coach — Bryn Renner from Florida International — called me up.

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At FIU I started nearly every game in 2018 and ’19 and played the best football of my life. My career hasn’t followed a clear, straight path, but the twists and turns I’ve had to take couldn’t have prepared me better to be your quarterback. I’ve had to learn three different offenses as a college QB, and just as important, I’ve had to earn the respect and trust of two different football teams.

Technically, what’s prepared me the most is that I played in a pro-style offense. Coach Babers ran the spread at Bowling Green. It was great. There’s lots for a quarterback to do — you make a lot of deep throws that showcase your arm strength. But the spread is also about getting the ball to your best athletes and letting them make plays. As a quarterback you’re more concerned with dissecting coverages than aligning protections.

So the spread is simpler, but the pro-style offense actually suits me better. I like knowing who is protected, who is accounted for, and who’s picking up the blitz. Like I said earlier, I’m at my best when I’m dealing with that level of detail — the more the better. I like being the leader on offense, and I see it as one of my jobs to know what everyone else is doing.

Beyond the X’s and O’s, one of my favorite parts about being a leader is setting lofty expectations for my teammates — and then laying the groundwork for them to achieve them. It’s really rewarding when you help someone accomplish something that maybe they thought they couldn’t. And I’ll work day in and day out with everyone to reach those goals, because there’s absolutely no better feeling than seeing a teammate do the impossible.

 

In a way, I look at this letter and still feel like the kid who wrote to 30 schools, hoping for a chance. I got overlooked a lot between high school and this moment. I still have a chip on my shoulder, still want to show people that they were wrong about me. And if it’s possible, I’m even more motivated now.

I’ve got so much left to prove.

And just like in 2017, I only need one answer and one team.

 

 

James Morgan

NEW YORK JETS

 

[Nixhead]

4 minutes ago, Gangrene said:

It was meant to be a red shirt year for Rummy Morgan  but here to get you excited, James Morgan's piece in the Player Tribute, April 19th 2020

 

MOST RECENT | NFL

 

A Letter to NFL GMs

PHOTO BY

SAMUEL LEWIS/ICON SPORTSWIRE VIA GETTY IMAGES

 

James Morgan

NEW YORK JETS

APR 19 2020

Dear NFL General Managers,

I come from a family of football players and lawyers. My dad was a state championship QB at Columbus High in Marshfield, Wisconsin. My aunt is a government attorney, and my grandfather was a lawyer, too.

In college, I decided I wanted to do both. Law is the only subject that I’m as passionate about as I am about football. There’s actually a lot of overlap between the preparation it takes to be a quarterback and the amount of studying it takes to be a lawyer. You have to be detail-oriented. You have to love a challenge. Someone who won’t rest until they’ve exhausted every possible solution.

That’s me. I graduated magna cum laude in three years from Bowling Green with a prelaw degree.

So when the invitation to the NFL combine hit my inbox, I didn’t jump for joy or sit back in awe — I went straight into preparation mode. I knew I would have to overcome a lot of doubters because I was from a mid-major school — I transferred from Bowling Green to Florida International before my junior season — but I was also completely confident in my abilities as a quarterback. I know I can play at the NFL level. I saw it as my job at the combine to prove that to you — and hopefully, I did.

I’m sure that some players find the long days at the combine exhausting, but digging into the most minute aspects of the game, talking strategy, dissecting playbooks? I love those things. I could do that all day. In college, I was the guy who stayed up all night coming up with new plays for seven-on-seven drills. That’s me: I’m a detail nerd.

Don’t get me wrong, though, I’m not just about crunching numbers and analyzing film.

Advertisement

The field is where it really matters.

---

I may prepare like Peyton Manning, but if you dissect my style as a quarterback you’re going to see just as many similarities to the styles of Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers. I grew up in Green Bay, about 15 minutes from where they both made the magic happen. I went to high school less than a mile from Lambeau Field.

I wasn’t the only kid in town who worshipped Favre, but I made sure to wear number 4 in middle school. I also tried to copy his methods on the field to the best of my ability. I’ve got that gunslinger mentality — I’m not afraid to take risks because I’m confident in my arm.

 

Courtesy of James Morgan

Rodgers took over when I was in high school, and I changed my number to 12. (Sorry, Brett.) Mimicking aspects of his game meant that sometimes I would opt for the safer throw to pick up quick yards, instead of forcing something deep.

I was a four-star recruit out of Ashwaubenon High, one of the top 25 quarterbacks in the nation — I threw for the fifth-most career passing yards in state history. I was hoping to get a look from Wisconsin, but nothing came. They didn’t recruit me at all. In fact, I wasn’t offered by any Power Five schools. I was confused and pretty hurt. But it made me want to chase my dreams even more. It was a feeling I’ve carried with me ever since: I’ll prove you wrong.

As a redshirt freshman at Bowling Green in 2015, I was incredibly fortunate to learn under head coach Dino Babers and quarterbacks coach Sean Lewis. But they left for Syracuse before I ever played a game. The next fall, with a new system with new coaches, I won the QB job and had a decent season. But our team struggled when I was a sophomore and changes were made, including at quarterback. I was surprised and disappointed — and forced to make a decision.

One of my old coaches had always told me, “Believe in spite of the evidence, and then watch the evidence change.” And for me, despite the tough season, my resiliency and my belief in myself had never been stronger. I was eager to compete for the game and the position I loved. Bowling Green was a great introduction to college football, a great place to get my feet wet, but I was hungry to get back on the field and lead a team — like I knew I could.

I purchased a physical list of more than 100 schools for $50 from a friend who ran a recruiting service. I sent out emails and highlight videos to 30 different teams. Only one coach — Bryn Renner from Florida International — called me up.

Advertisement

Mark Brown/Getty Images

At FIU I started nearly every game in 2018 and ’19 and played the best football of my life. My career hasn’t followed a clear, straight path, but the twists and turns I’ve had to take couldn’t have prepared me better to be your quarterback. I’ve had to learn three different offenses as a college QB, and just as important, I’ve had to earn the respect and trust of two different football teams.

Technically, what’s prepared me the most is that I played in a pro-style offense. Coach Babers ran the spread at Bowling Green. It was great. There’s lots for a quarterback to do — you make a lot of deep throws that showcase your arm strength. But the spread is also about getting the ball to your best athletes and letting them make plays. As a quarterback you’re more concerned with dissecting coverages than aligning protections.

So the spread is simpler, but the pro-style offense actually suits me better. I like knowing who is protected, who is accounted for, and who’s picking up the blitz. Like I said earlier, I’m at my best when I’m dealing with that level of detail — the more the better. I like being the leader on offense, and I see it as one of my jobs to know what everyone else is doing.

Beyond the X’s and O’s, one of my favorite parts about being a leader is setting lofty expectations for my teammates — and then laying the groundwork for them to achieve them. It’s really rewarding when you help someone accomplish something that maybe they thought they couldn’t. And I’ll work day in and day out with everyone to reach those goals, because there’s absolutely no better feeling than seeing a teammate do the impossible.

 

In a way, I look at this letter and still feel like the kid who wrote to 30 schools, hoping for a chance. I got overlooked a lot between high school and this moment. I still have a chip on my shoulder, still want to show people that they were wrong about me. And if it’s possible, I’m even more motivated now.

I’ve got so much left to prove.

And just like in 2017, I only need one answer and one team.

 

 

James Morgan

NEW YORK JETS

 

Enough said - Start his Ass!

[Gangrene]

Morgan as kid photographed in Lambeau Field.

[joewilly12]

Why waste a 4th round draft pick on a QB if you have no plans to play him if needed we needed WR's and LB's and OL instead. 

Just say NO to Flacco. 

No more old re-treads. 

[Gangrene]

1 minute ago, joewilly12 said:

Why waste a 4th round draft pick on a QB if you have no plans to play him if needed we needed WR's and LB's and OL instead. 

Just say NO to Flacco. 

No more old re-treads. 

We definitely needed another WR in the 4th.  Did Douglas doubt what he saw in Darnold?

Joe Douglas can shut all us doubters up if Morgan ever sees the field.

[joewilly12]

Just now, Gangrene said:

We definitely needed another WR in the 4th.  Did Douglas doubt what he saw in Darnold?

Joe Douglas can shut all us doubters up if Morgan ever sees the field.

Yes sir Herbert seems to be doing a decent job for the Chargers. 

[Spoot-Face]

Probably yes.

But I'd rather it be him than Flacco.

I'd also be good with getting Mike White back in here as the sacrificial lamb.

 

EDIT: This is all assuming, of course, that Darnold can't play.

[slimjasi]

Assuming Darnold is out this week, I want to see anyone but Flacco. 

But I know in my heart that we will be watching Flacco throw 3 yards behind the line of scrimmage instead of Sam. 

[Wonderboy]

2 hours ago, JetBlue said:

If Darnold hurt his shoulder, doesn't it make sense to give him a week off to heal?  Maybe giving a week off will allow him to get his head together and come back refreshed.  Hopefully by then he will get one or more of his walking wounded receivers and L. Bell back as well to go with Crowder and Smith.  

Why not give Morgan a shot and see what we have?  Lets face it, we will be drafting a quarterback next season so why not see what Morgan has so we can maximize his value in a trade?   If he plays a game or two and looks decent, that will give us good game film to use with other teams.    What the heck do we have to lose?      

I don’t think Jets brass is ready to give up on Darnold if we win some games and miss out on Trevor or Fields. If we get the #1 pick then definitely go with Trevor and trade Sam, regardless. But if we get back our starters (Mims, Bell, Perriman, Becton, McGovern, Berrios) I just can’t see how we wouldn’t win just enough to screw this up and be forced to stick with Darnold. 

[JetBlue]

2 minutes ago, Wonderboy said:

I don’t think Jets brass is ready to give up on Darnold if we win some games and miss out on Trevor or Fields. If we get the #1 pick then definitely go with Trevor and trade Sam, regardless. But if we get back our starters (Mims, Bell, Perriman, Becton, McGovern, Berrios) I just can’t see how we wouldn’t win just enough to screw this up and be forced to stick with Darnold. 

That would be the Jetsy thing to do....  however, our schedule is not looking good.  I can't see this team winning more than 3 games this year. 

[Wonderboy]

4 minutes ago, JetBlue said:

That would be the Jetsy thing to do....  however, our schedule is not looking good.  I can't see this team winning more than 3 games this year. 

Just enough to fall out of 1st pick ??‍♂️

[JetBlue]

One thing I must say about Morgan is he throws a great deep ball.  Something Sam has yet to demonstrate.  

 

[JetBlue]

10 minutes ago, Wonderboy said:

Just enough to fall out of 1st pick ??‍♂️

Hey as long was we are in the top two, we still can get Fields who may turn out to be a better pro.  

[Wonderboy]

2 minutes ago, JetBlue said:

Hey as long was we are in the top two, we still can get Fields who may turn out to be a better pro.  

Jets pick 3rd ugggggggh

[JetBlue]

2 minutes ago, Wonderboy said:

Jets pick 3rd ugggggggh

Okay now you are being a true Debbie Downer lol.  There is always Trey Lance, small school prospect who talent wise is the same neighborhood as Lawrence and Fields.  He just needs more reps and his competition is suspect.   Btw that is the same school that produced Carson Wentz. 

[Wonderboy]

11 minutes ago, JetBlue said:

Okay now you are being a true Debbie Downer lol.  There is always Trey Lance, small school prospect who talent wise is the same neighborhood as Lawrence and Fields.  He just needs more reps and his competition is suspect.   Btw that is the same school that produced Carson Wentz. 

Intriguing prospect but he’s not going top 15. And be a reach at 3