Popular Post Shockwave Posted December 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2020 Looking up Franklin Meyers Numbers this guy has some studly upside. Top 15 in pressures and only only 24 years old. Gotta give Joe Douglas a ton of credit grabbing this guy and giving him time to develop. He essentially was like getting an extra draft pick for free. The main question is: Is he considered a young stud and does he get a big contract this offseason? Next question is why are we not switching to a 4-3 base? Yes everyone has multiple formations but perhaps its time to get two customary DE's that rush the passer instead of the scrubs we have had there for the last 10 years. It is MUCH harder to get interior lineman that can get pressure and with Franklin Meyers and Quinnen we have TWO possible studs there that are both so young. Build the defense around these two guys. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Untouchable Posted December 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2020 He should be the top priority to re-sign, even ahead of Maye. Hell, out of all of our impending FA’s...Franklin-Myers, Maye and maybe Basham are the only ones worth retaining. The rest can kick rocks. Especially Perriman. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 32EBoozer Posted December 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, Untouchable said: He should be the top priority to re-sign, even ahead of Maye. Hell, out of all of our impending FA’s...Franklin-Myers, Maye and maybe Basham are the only ones worth retaining. The rest can kick rocks. Especially Perriman. Poole, Hewitt and Elflein should be added to that list if they can be signed for reasonable $ I would resign Perriman 7 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waka Flocka Flacco Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Untouchable said: He should be the top priority to re-sign His rookie contract should run one more year unless I'm missing something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Isn’t he signed through 2021? OTC has him on our roster next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Just now, 32EBoozer said: Poole, Hewitt and Elflein should be added to that list if they can be signed for reasonable $ I would resign Perriman Forgot about Poole and Hewitt. And Elflein hasn’t looked half bad, though I still think the Jets should make a run at Joe Thuney in March. Perriman I want nothing to do with. Go out and land one of Robinson, Godwin, Golladay or Davis and draft someone like Seth Williams in the 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, Untouchable said: He should be the top priority to re-sign, even ahead of Maye. Hell, out of all of our impending FA’s...Franklin-Myers, Maye and maybe Basham are the only ones worth retaining. The rest can kick rocks. Especially Perriman. Maybe i'm wrong, but I feel like Basham is just another JAG player. I know you can't have a star player at every position but I wouldn't shed a tear if we lost Basham this off season. Totally agree on Franklin-Myers and Maye though. Franklin-Myers should be our top priority to re-sign. He's developing into a really good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said: His rookie contract should run one more year unless I'm missing something. Yep, just checked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Franklin-Meyers,Shepherd.Fatukasi,Phillips,Williams,Basham all need to be retained they are a good group. We have too many other glaring needs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, shuler82 said: Isn’t he signed through 2021? OTC has him on our roster next year. I believe so, but a good candidate for a reasonable extension this off-season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: Poole, Hewitt and Elflein should be added to that list if they can be signed for reasonable $ I would resign Perriman Poole can start in the slot next year, need a # 1 CB to be added, Hall could be # 2, Austin # 4. Elfein would be a great backup guard with two new starters (1 in free agency and 1 in the draft) they need to target this position in a big way. Perriman I like but he should be the 4th option next year. Need a # 1, then you have Mims, Crowder, Perriman. That would be a nice depth chart. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 26 minutes ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said: His rookie contract should run one more year unless I'm missing something. correct, he is under contract for 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 46 minutes ago, Untouchable said: He should be the top priority to re-sign, even ahead of Maye. Hell, out of all of our impending FA’s...Franklin-Myers, Maye and maybe Basham are the only ones worth retaining. The rest can kick rocks. Especially Perriman. I'd also extend Jamison Crowder like months ago. He's 27 and our best WR. Dude can be a stud if next regime is halfway decent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Maxman said: Poole can start in the slot next year, need a # 1 CB to be added, Hall could be # 2, Austin # 4. Elfein would be a great backup guard with two new starters (1 in free agency and 1 in the draft) they need to target this position in a big way. Perriman I like but he should be the 4th option next year. Need a # 1, then you have Mims, Crowder, Perriman. That would be a nice depth chart. That UDFA Javelin Guidry has been holding it down in the slot recently. He may be our starter next year the way he’s playing! Really pleasantly surprised how well he’s played in this small sample size. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, shuler82 said: Isn’t he signed through 2021? OTC has him on our roster next year. Yes. Typically this off-season is when you would want to extend Franklin Meyers unless you are ok with him reaching FA. it should be a big priority this off-season if you believe in him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, David Harris said: That UDFA Javelin Guidry has been holding it down in the slot recently. He may be our starter next year the way he’s playing! Really pleasantly surprised how well he’s played in this small sample size. I did not think Guidry would be particularly good but he has played especially well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 We have some very good dlineman we got late or as udfa. Fatusaki and don't forget phillips who was hurt all year. Even Nathan sheppard mad some nice plays this year. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 hours ago, johnnysd said: I did not think Guidry would be particularly good but he has played especially well. This is the hidden benefit of some injures and coaching moves we actually got to see a number of young rookies and see if they can play or not. Say what you want about Gregg Williams he played or was forced to play a lot of young guys. Meanwhile Gase refused to play clarke, morgan or the young rbs unless his hand was 100% forced 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 56 minutes ago, Maxman said: Poole can start in the slot next year, need a # 1 CB to be added, Hall could be # 2, Austin # 4. Elfein would be a great backup guard with two new starters (1 in free agency and 1 in the draft) they need to target this position in a big way. Perriman I like but he should be the 4th option next year. Need a # 1, then you have Mims, Crowder, Perriman. That would be a nice depth chart. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2021-free-agency-ranking-the-nfls-top-50-free-agents There are no #1 CB in FA. There are a few quality Edge, WR and OL in FA. That said, we need a starting QB and #1 CB in 1st round, Edge, WR, OL rd. 2-3 & RB, TE, WR, OL rd. 4-6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Maxman said: Poole can start in the slot next year, need a # 1 CB to be added, Hall could be # 2, Austin # 4. Elfein would be a great backup guard with two new starters (1 in free agency and 1 in the draft) they need to target this position in a big way. Perriman I like but he should be the 4th option next year. Need a # 1, then you have Mims, Crowder, Perriman. That would be a nice depth chart. Mims durability concerns me. Id prefer to sign Ju-Ju or Robinson as the #1 and draft 2 decent WR's Chase and Waddle will get selected early on so maybe Justyn Ross Crowder has earned a spot back here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: This is the hidden benefit of some injures and coaching moves we actually got to see a number of young rookies and see if they can play or not. Say what you want about Gregg Williams he played or was forced to play a lot of young guys. Meanwhile Gase refused to play clarke, morgan or the young rbs unless his hand wsa 100% forced Yes and to be honest, this is maybe my #1 gripe with Gase. Without exaggeration literally all of the other RBs were clearly better than Gore and he was so insistent on playing Gore almost like he was intentionally spiting someone. I mean I like Gore as a leader and example but his playing time is really over. Glad he got his milestone, now kinda go away. I would have also thought that the defense would be pretty much the same without Williams but it hasn't. The structure and play calling that Bush is doing is far superior to Williams who would not move away from being hyper aggressive which does not fit our talent. Several players have had clear upticks with the simpler approach Bush has taken, notably Luvu Franklin Meyers and Guidry. I think we have a better base at defense than people realize. Offense is still a mess though 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, 32EBoozer said: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2021-free-agency-ranking-the-nfls-top-50-free-agents There are no #1 CB in FA. There are a few quality Edge, WR and OL in FA. That said, we need a starting QB and #1 CB in 1st round, Edge, WR, OL rd. 2-3 & RB, TE, WR, OL rd. 4-6 If we take RD1 QB, no way in hell am I going defense the next 2 picks. We need to learn from Darnold and Luck and load up on weapons and protection, my 2nd 1st, 2nd both 3rds and 4th are all going to be offense. We need to pick a WR, TE, C and G/OT/TE with those picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said: His rookie contract should run one more year unless I'm missing something. Correct. He'll be an UFA 2022 https://overthecap.com/player/john-franklin-myers/7020/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, johnnysd said: If we take RD1 QB, no way in hell am I going defense the next 2 picks. We need to learn from Darnold and Luck and load up on weapons and protection, my 2nd 1st, 2nd both 3rds and 4th are all going to be offense. We need to pick a WR, TE, C and G/OT/TE with those picks Understandable. My post was not in any particular order in draft. Just stating that somewhere in rds. 2-3 the Jets should grab a WR, OL and Edge. It all depends on who best available prospect is at the time of those 3 selections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 4 hours ago, 32EBoozer said: Poole, Hewitt and Elflein should be added to that list if they can be signed for reasonable $ I would resign Perriman I'd pump the brakes on the JFM hype. Kyle Phillips was much better last season playing both End and DT, led the Jets in TFL in 19. I'd rather extend Phillips and Maye than jump on the JFM bandwagon too soon. The real credit goes to Foley, Q, and Shepherd who make JFM life easy because of their constant double teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I agree, No more 3-4, this is a gap penetration defense 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 We should try and sign him to a 3 year extension at a reasonable price. That’ll give him security and allow him to hit FA again at 28. The team benefits by locking him up a reasonable price. We should also try and get a edge rushers in FA. The number 1 corner spot will have to wait until next year. That role requires a premium pick that we need to spend on the offense this year. I would prioritize the iOL, WR, TE, and RB before the number 1 corner spot. Use a 1st in 2022 on corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 JD has leverage during the regular season to extend. After that he is bidding against 31 other teams. Good teams like the Steelers and Ravens extend the players they like early. The Jets have never done that well, regardless of who the GM is. It must be a Johnson thing-make the player play out their cheaper contract. JFM could blow his knee in the last game and lose his ability to get a new contract. If I were him I would get hurt before the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Stark said: I'd also extend Jamison Crowder like months ago. He's 27 and our best WR. Dude can be a stud if next regime is halfway decent. He's a good player. Potential stud is an exaggeration though in my opinion. He isn't a big physical guy. He isn't a burner. He's a short and steady slot guy. Not a guy you commit too much to. Guys like him after drafted late or not all every year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Stark said: I'd also extend Jamison Crowder like months ago. He's 27 and our best WR. Dude can be a stud if next regime is halfway decent. Don't get me wrong, Crowder is a real good player. However, as others have pointed out, Gase O features the slot WR. Who is to say the new OC will have a similar philosophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Foley, Q, Phillips, and Shepherd are all better defensive lineman than JFM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 The Jets have 32 pending FA's. 14 are either RFA or ERFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 4 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Mims durability concerns me. Id prefer to sign Ju-Ju or Robinson as the #1 and draft 2 decent WR's Chase and Waddle will get selected early on so maybe Justyn Ross Crowder has earned a spot back here. I think with this cap room they can make two splashes. Not sure they will thought. With Juju it comes down to the market. I like him and as long as he reigns in his tik tok taunting he will be fine. But I am not paying him for his 2018 production since he has come back to earth since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 4 hours ago, 32EBoozer said: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2021-free-agency-ranking-the-nfls-top-50-free-agents There are no #1 CB in FA. There are a few quality Edge, WR and OL in FA. That said, we need a starting QB and #1 CB in 1st round, Edge, WR, OL rd. 2-3 & RB, TE, WR, OL rd. 4-6 People said that last year and then Desir became available. <----- rereads his own post. Ah nevermind lol. If they stick with Darnold and trade down a few spots, lets say around 10. They could also get that teams 2nd rounder. They could draft: 1st round: WR, G, Clemson RB (top of round 2), CB with the other pick in round 2. They have options! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Maxman said: I think with this cap room they can make two splashes. Not sure they will thought. With Juju it comes down to the market. I like him and as long as he reigns in his tik tok taunting he will be fine. But I am not paying him for his 2018 production since he has come back to earth since then. If JD surrounds Ju-Ju with talent like in Pittsburgh he will be fine. We need young WR's with speed who can go over the middle and battle for the ball. We need to clean house of all JAG WR's Mims,Crowder,Berrios stay Perriman for the right price all others be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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