Sam Darnold is tough sell for a 2nd round pick.

[Patriot Killa]

Here is MUCH more reliable source. Sorry about gettin some of you guys hyped up for what seems to be nothing.

 

[Patriot Killa]

 

[sec101row23]

I’ve been saying this for months.  

[Morrissey]

You mean arguably the worst starting QB in the league who's about to become expensive isn't held in high regard by NFL front offices?

Shocked!

National media's love affair with Darnold is more about loving to crap on the Jets than it is about anything Darnold has shown on field.

[QB1]

Who cares is getting a second rounder vs a 3rd going to break or make our franchise?

[oatmeal]

Just posted this in another thread too. That narrative that Sam is “viewed highly around the league” is false. 

[BroadwayRay]

Duh

[Adoni Beast]

I guess the market was never really there for him...and would explain why he wasn’t moved sooner.

[Patriot Killa]

So this is easy right? Package a 2nd & Darnold to move up for another impact player right?

probably not a team interested enough to take that at this point.

[BroadwayRay]

Was wondering who was going to step forward and tell us the emperor has no clothes as far as Darnold is concerned. The only people who have been pushing the line that Darnold is a great QB is his agent, Jimmy Sexton, and all the media types--analysts, former players and GMs, TV show hosts--who are either dopes or people who rely on Sexton for half their news tips. 

[k-met57]

Kimberly martin is irrelevant. She has covered like 4 teams in the last 4 years.

posting crap like this is the only reason to get people to actually read her sh*t.

[FidelioJet]

6 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

I guess the market was never really there for him...and would explain why he wasn’t moved sooner.

or JD over played his hand.

I think you'r'e probably right though,

[Adoni Beast]

Just now, FidelioJet said:

or JD over played his hand.

I think you'r'e probably right though,

Maybe even a little of both. But if the offers for Sam were lowered than twitterniks were telling us, then JD was right to not rush.

Get the medical clearance and see the prospects up close and personal before trading away the only QB on your roster who started a game in the league.

[Fantasy Island]

13 minutes ago, oatmeal said:

Just posted this in another thread too. That narrative that Sam is “viewed highly around the league” is false. 

Sam is as valuable as a Blockbuster membership card.  

[sec101row23]

10 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

I guess the market was never really there for him...and would explain why he wasn’t moved sooner.

There never was.  That’s why I laughed at the “reports” that were saying that there are multiple teams interested in Sam and willing to give up a 2nd round pick.  He’s worth a mid round pick to bring in as a back up and see if you can catch lightning in a bottle.  The odds of that are slim though.  

[Patriot Killa]

5 minutes ago, k-met57 said:

Kimberly martin is irrelevant. She has covered like 4 teams in the last 4 years.

posting crap like this is the only reason to get people to actually read her sh*t.

Or maybe, just maybe, Darnold isn’t good, he isn’t worth a 2nd round pick & GM’s know that. 

[heymangold]

5 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

or JD over played his hand.

I think you'r'e probably right though,

i tend to think it was more so JD overplaying.

we really still believe he needed a pro day to decide who he's rolling with at qb?  he was trying to squeeze out as much leverage and make teams anxious to make a move.  it didn't work.  now he'll either be traded for nothing, or cut.

[Jets Things]

I'd be OK with a bag of used kicking tees. 

[peekskill68]

Given how JD's mind works,  I'm thinking now he's more likely to keep Sam even if he drafts Wilson.  Probably figures he can up his value if Sam improves under Saleh and Lafleur. 

[Patriot Killa]

1 minute ago, heymangold said:

i tend to think it was more so JD overplaying.

we really still believe he needed a pro day to decide who he's rolling with at qb?  he was trying to squeeze out as much leverage and make teams anxious to make a move.  it didn't work.  now he'll either be traded for nothing, or cut.

So at this point you just take the 3rd and move on right?

[Philc1]

7 minutes ago, k-met57 said:

Kimberly martin is irrelevant. She has covered like 4 teams in the last 4 years.

posting crap like this is the only reason to get people to actually read her sh*t.

Anyone who gets their news from Twitter, a platform designed for Ashton Kutcher and 9 year old girls, oh my God

[Philc1]

Just now, Patriot Killa said:

So at this point you just take the 3rd and move on right?

Who is playing qb after Wilson gets injured next season?

[FidelioJet]

4 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

Maybe even a little of both. But if the offers for Sam were lowered than twitterniks were telling us, then JD was right to not rush.

Get the medical clearance and see the prospects up close and personal before trading away the only QB on your roster who started a game in the league.

Yeah, I have no problem with him waiting,..taking a 3rd or 4th instead of a 2nd is fine.

Strange year for these guys - while they had plenty of Zoom interview with Wilson, they were never able to look him in the eye live, size him up a bit, see the ball leave his hands - plus as you mentioned the medicals.

If he was their guy - and they really wanted to just meet the kid in person before they put their collective careers on the line - I really can't blame them for waiting.

[docdhc]

3 random gm’s  are irrelevant. It only takes a couple of qbs needy teams who want him to bid up his value. 

[Patriot Killa]

Just now, Philc1 said:

Who is playing qb after Wilson gets injured next season?

Baker Mayfield, or any of the other QB’s you’ve written off in past years comes to mind.

[heymangold]

2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

So at this point you just take the 3rd and move on right?

3rd is probably great value for darnold.  

[heymangold]

1 minute ago, Philc1 said:

Who is playing qb after Wilson gets injured next season?

whoever it is will probably be better than darnold - mullins is still out there.

[Patriot Killa]

Just now, heymangold said:

3rd is probably great value for darnold.  

1st(#2)

1st(#23)

2nd

3rd

3rd

3rd

let’s get it done & move on already.

[sec101row23]

2 minutes ago, docdhc said:

3 random gm’s  are irrelevant. It only takes a couple of qbs needy teams who want him to bid up his value. 

That sounds all well and good, who are those teams currently?  

[Philc1]

1 minute ago, sec101row23 said:

That sounds all well and good, who are those teams currently?  

The patriots, giants and Toronto Argos 

[Philc1]

2 minutes ago, heymangold said:

whoever it is will probably be better than darnold - mullins is still out there.

So we backup Sam Bradford 2.0 with a fullback pretending to play qb?

[heymangold]

Just now, Philc1 said:

So we backup Sam Bradford 2.0 with a fullback pretending to play qb?

i'm so confused with what your actual stance is on who should be the QB - the one post you write about Wilson apparently being injury prone, the next you joke about the toronto argos needing sam at qb.  so what does it matter?  they were 2-14 last year - whats a realisitic record for this year, 5-12?  4-13?

[Sarge4Tide]

The next 30 days will be interesting!  We'll find out soon enough what Darnold's trade value is.

I imagine the Jets would want to trade Danold before the draft, if they have made a decision to do that.  If the Jets don't trade Darnold prior to the draft and then take Wilson at #2, Darnold's trade value, whatever it may be, will drop considerably

 

[Jets Voice of Reason]

A 3rd or a 4th is more valuable than a QB at the end of his rookie contract. But I still can't help but feel like JD muffed this one pretty hard. Everyone is pretty convinced that the Jets are taking Wilson, which combined with the fact that demand went down heavily since he waited so long makes it feel like we've lost a ton of leverage.

[Philc1]

1 minute ago, heymangold said:

i'm so confused with what your actual stance is on who should be the QB - the one post you write about Wilson apparently being injury prone, the next you joke about the toronto argos needing sam at qb.  so what does it matter?  they were 2-14 last year - whats a realisitic record for this year, 5-12?  4-13?

Improve the roster.  We have no offensive line and the Davis signing moves our WR group from league worst to maybe league average if we’re lucky