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Chandler Jones wants out of Arizona.  Jets have a ton of cap space, lots of picks and just lost Lawson.

What would you do?

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Rebuilding teams don't really give up draft picks for aging superstars.  The injury has also occurred in the one spot where the Jets are pretty deep (well not strictly edge rusher perse, but rather DL

Ehhh idk. I think it comes down to the fans on this one Joe. We’ll be the ones who make a trade. 

If you're going to do anything I'd sign a FA, no point in giving up draft capital.. Olivier Vernon is still a FA and Everson Griffen as well. Could sign them to a cheap 1 year deal to plug the hole un

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6 minutes ago, Claymation said:

With the loss of Lawson, this is a 4-5 win team, Kayvon Thibodeaux becomes a possibility with a top 5-10 pick.

So no, stay put.

  I think he's going top 3 unless he looks like trash or has a major injury.  

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  I think he's going top 3 unless he looks like trash or has a major injury.  

I believe Strong, Rattler and Howell will go in the top 3. Leaving Stingley and Thibodeux there at 5, that doesn’t include college players who will rise.
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I believe Strong, Rattler and Howell will go in the top 3. Leaving Stingley and Thibodeux there at 5, that doesn’t include college players who will rise.

We'll see, but if the guys in the trenches on both sides of the ball play to their potential (even without Lawson) then I think the Jets are well out of range for where they'll need to be to get Thibodeux.

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Sign Everson Griffen and move forward, would be my preferred “solution”.  Was kinda surprised to see he’s still a FA, even at 34 and even when he’s likely toast. 

If not Griffen then bring in KJ Wright or Vic Beasley for workouts to kick the tires, perhaps.

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17 minutes ago, Claymation said:


I believe Strong, Rattler and Howell will go in the top 3. Leaving Stingley and Thibodeux there at 5, that doesn’t include college players who will rise.

We're drafting Kyle Hamilton 6th overall.

Time is a flat circle.

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No…we’re rebuilding and need all the picks and cap space we can get for the next 2 seasons.

This year is all about:

- changing the culture and team mentality

- developing the youngins

- win some games to have some sort of confidence going into next year for a wild card spot

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3 hours ago, Claymation said:

With the loss of Lawson, this is a 4-5 win team, Kayvon Thibodeaux becomes a possibility with a top 5-10 pick.

So no, stay put.

If we had a HC last year we would have won 4-5 games.  

 

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2 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

No…we’re rebuilding and need all the picks and cap space we can get for the next 2 seasons.

This year is all about:

- changing the culture and team mentality

- developing the youngins

- win some games to have some sort of confidence going into next year for a wild card spot

Yeah, while we all fantasize about playoffs the jets need to see who they’re keeping beyond this season.  And with 2 picks in the first and second rounds next year you know pass rushers will be emphasized in the scouting process.

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2 hours ago, AFJF said:

We'll see, but if the guys in the trenches on both sides of the ball play to their potential (even without Lawson) then I think the Jets are well out of range for where they'll need to be to get Thibodeux.

This is a 5 win team and they'll be a QB or two that comes out of nowhere to move to the top of the board too.  Jets will have their pick of a top 4 or 5 position player.

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Saleh will make adjustments to compensate. He lost both bosa and armstead to ACL early on last yr (vs the Jets) and he still had a top 5 defense. Maybe he will have to blitz more and/or someone else will step up. Still some guys out there to pick up needed as others have posted, Aldon smith was not mentioned. 

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22 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

If we had a HC last year we would have won 4-5 games.  

 

Thankfully we didn't, because we wouldn't have Wilson if that was the case. From what I have seen, he looks pretty good.

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8 minutes ago, Barkus said:

Saleh will make adjustments to compensate. He lost both bosa and armstead to ACL early on last yr (vs the Jets) and he still had a top 5 defense. Maybe he will have to blitz more and/or someone else will step up. Still some guys out there to pick up needed as others have posted, Aldon smith was not mentioned. 

I hope you are right. 

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5 minutes ago, Claymation said:

Thankfully we didn't, because we wouldn't have Wilson if that was the case. From what I have seen, he looks pretty good.

Thats true but really a different conversation.  What I'm saying is we should have won 4-5 last year, I think we're better set up this season with Zach, the roster changes and CS.  

And now because we lost Lawson we're a 4 win team?  Maybe?

Theres too many overreacting 

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6 hours ago, AFJF said:

Chandler Jones wants out of Arizona.  Jets have a ton of cap space, lots of picks and just lost Lawson.

What would you do?

The disappointed fan in me says yes. Like everyone else I was looking forward to that D line/ pass rush with an up and coming edge like Mr. Carl Lawson. Hopefully a complete and total recovery for him. 
 

But, it’s really hard to give up draft capital and even harder to think Joe Douglas  is going to do it based on his approach so far. Not sure how much Jones has in the tank but he certainly has been good for a really long time and likely pass his peak. JD seems to want players transitioning in the other direction. It’s said to much but Jones will go to a “ win now team.” 

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23 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

Yeah, while we all fantasize about playoffs the jets need to see who they’re keeping beyond this season.  And with 2 picks in the first and second rounds next year you know pass rushers will be emphasized in the scouting process.

GM: No more past their prime vets.  No more trading away our future.

HC: You've got good depth in the trenches.  So, same plan as at DB, let's see which youngsters step up.  I trust you in this area more so than any other HC in memory.

Fans: Chill and enjoy the ride.             

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2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Thats true but really a different conversation.  What I'm saying is we should have won 4-5 last year, I think we're better set up this season with Zach, the roster changes and CS.  

And now because we lost Lawson we're a 4 win team?  Maybe?

Theres too many overreacting 

I was never of the belief that this was a 8-9 win team. There are too many rookies and 2nd year players in prominent roles. They will make God awful mistakes, where fans will think they suck and question their role on this team.

The rookies will eventually hit a wall around Thanksgiving, because they have never played a season this long. Having played 15 games including pre-season with 5 to go. Lawson is good for a win or two. 

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I am pulling for Carl and know he has the drive to make a comeback, but Joe Douglas took a risk with Carl's prior history and unfortunately it did not work out this season.  Up until now,  it was looking like a genius move to acquire him.  Maybe a learning experience for Joe.

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