Todd McShay Mocks A Top 3 Selection in 2023 Draft ...

[LAD_Brooklyn]

For the NY Football Jets

 

Todd McShay has Ohio State quarterback C.J. Stroud as the projected No. 1 pick in the 2023 NFL Draft ahead of Bryce Young of Alabama at No. 2. McShay has five quarterbacks in total in the top-10.

1. Houston Texans: C.J. Stroud, QB, Ohio State

2. Detroit Lions: Bryce Young, QB, Alabama

3. New York Jets: Will Anderson Jr., DE, Alabama

4. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jaxon Smith-Njigba, WR, Ohio State

5. Atlanta Falcons: Jalen Carter, DT, Georgia

6. Carolina Panthers: Anthony Richardson, QB, Florida

7. Chicago Bears: Jordan Addison, WR, Pittsburgh

8. New York Giants: Will Levis, QB, Kentucky

9. Seattle Seahawks: Tyler Van Dyke, QB, Miami

10. Washington Commanders: Eli Ricks, CB, Alabama

11. Pittsburgh Steelers: Paris Johnson Jr., OT, Ohio State

12. Philadelphia Eagles (via Saints): Kelee Ringo, CB, Georgia

13. Las Vegas Raiders: Peter Skoronski, OT, Northwestern

14. Minnesota Vikings: Bryan Bresee, DT, Clemson

15. New England Patriots: Noah Sewell, ILB, Oregon

16. Miami Dolphins: Myles Murphy, DE, Clemson

17. Tennessee Titans: Michael Mayer, TE, Notre Dame

18. Indianapolis Colts: Derick Hall, DE, Auburn

19. Philadelphia Eagles: Bijan Robinson, RB, Texas

20. Arizona Cardinals: Clark Phillips III, CB, Utah

21. Baltimore Ravens: Kayshon Boutte, WR, LSU

22. Cincinnati Bengals: Trenton Simpson, ILB, Clemson

23. Houston Texans (via Browns): BJ Ojulari, DE, LSU

24. Dallas Cowboys: Henry To'oTo'o, ILB, Alabama

25. Seattle Seahawks (via Broncos): Joey Porter Jr., CB, Penn State

26. Los Angeles Chargers: Zion Nelson, OT, Miami

27. Miami Dolphins (via 49ers): Jahmyr Gibbs, RB, Alabama*

28. Detroit Lions (via Rams): Tony Grimes, CB, North Carolina

29. Green Bay Packers: Emil Ekiyor Jr., G, Alabama

30. Kansas City Chiefs: Nolan Smith, OLB, Georgia

31. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Josh Downs, WR, North Carolina

32. Buffalo Bills: Marvin Mims, WR, Oklahoma

TODD MCSHAY/ESPN

[ZachEY]

Don't understand a scenario where we're picking top 3 next year and not taking a QB.

[UntouchableCrew]

2 minutes ago, ZachEY said:

Don't understand a scenario where we're picking top 3 next year and not taking a QB.

Under that scenario we would unquestionably would.

I think this is more of a generic "here's where the usual suspects fall based on loose projections, aligned with my draft board."

Although this somehow has is missing the two surefire QBs by a pick, so it feels "right" in that sense.

[JohnnyLV]

1 minute ago, ZachEY said:

Don't understand a scenario where we're picking top 3 next year and not taking a QB.

Exactly. Only way we pick 3 is if Wilson just is awful. I think after this offseason we will be in the hunt for a wild card minimum.

[ZachEY]

4 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

Exactly. Only way we pick 3 is if Wilson just is awful. I think after this offseason we will be in the hunt for a wild card minimum.

I think it's hard to find more than 8 wins next year, but I'm hopeful for a minimum of 6.

[Dinamite]

I think all these way early mock drafts use the Vegas Superbowl odds to determine the order.  Let's hope they are way wrong.

[Doggin94it]

9 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Under that scenario we would unquestionably would.

I think this is more of a generic "here's where the usual suspects fall based on loose projections, aligned with my draft board."

Although this somehow has is missing the two surefire QBs by a pick, so it feels "right" in that sense.

Read the intro to that piece and it was literally "we just set the draft order by the vegas superbowl odds" - it's not a true projection of where teams will end up

[Warfish]

I'm confident we will not be picking 1, 2 or 3 next year.

[Doggin94it]

2 minutes ago, ZachEY said:

I think it's hard to find more than 8 wins next year, but I'm hopeful for a minimum of 6.

I see 12 winnable games on there (we match up fine with everything but the Bills, Browns, Bengals, and Ravens, IMO), so 6 would be a disappointment.

[bitonti]

1 minute ago, Dinamite said:

I think all these way early mock drafts use the Vegas Superbowl odds to determine the order.  Let's hope they are way wrong.

I'm going to quote this again for truth 

everyone gets all butt hurt that these mocks have the Jets so high 

they are just current Vegas SB odds in reverse. 

Why are the Jets the third least likely team to win a SB? Take it up with the Hilton Superbook or whoever made up the line. That's not what these mock drafts are predicting. 

[slimjasi]

4 minutes ago, ZachEY said:

I think it's hard to find more than 8 wins next year, but I'm hopeful for a minimum of 6.

We have to start beating NE and Miami. 

[UntouchableCrew]

3 minutes ago, Doggin94it said:

Read the intro to that piece and it was literally "we just set the draft order by the vegas superbowl odds" - it's not a true projection of where teams will end up

Ah, even more straightforward. Thanks.

[Joe W. Namath]

13 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

Exactly. Only way we pick 3 is if Wilson just is awful. I think after this offseason we will be in the hunt for a wild card minimum.

Wilson was awful last year and we still didnt pick 3.  We are 10xs the roster we were last year.  This makes no sense.

In Zach Wilson's 2nd year, with a massively upgraded roster, we are going to be worse then we were last year???

 

[UntouchableCrew]

2 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

We have to start beating NE and Miami. 

It was maddening that NE would kick our ass twice a year when they had Brady.

Now they low key aren't even good and they're still whooping us x2.

Absolutely need to start beating NE and Miami. I want 3-3 or better in the division, frankly.

[UntouchableCrew]

Just now, Joe W. Namath said:

Wilson was awful last year and we still didnt pick 3. 

 

Ah yes, we picked... 4

[Dunnie]

Agree with everyone saying .. if we are drafting top 3 .. we are drafting a QB

Honestly, I cannot see us in the top 8 at all ... not even remotely.

[bitonti]

Just now, Doggin94it said:

I see 12 winnable games on there (we match up fine with everything but the Bills, Browns, Bengals, and Ravens, IMO), so 6 would be a disappointment.

non conference road schedule is brutal. games at Denver and at Green Bay are also terrible matchups  - even the "easy" games like at Seattle is a 3000 mile road trip and DET always plays tough on thanksgiving.  

The Jets haven't beaten BUF, NE or MIA in three years so I'm not sure how they get to more than 6 wins while getting swept by the division. They have to at least split with MIA and NE to have any sort of chance at .500. 

6 wins would be about expected (5.5 is the current over under, last year's over under was 6 and they got 4) 

7-8 wins would be excellent 

a winning season (9+) Saleh should win coach of the year 

[Dunnie]

non conference road schedule is brutal. games at Denver and at Green Bay are also terrible matchups  - even the "easy" games like at Seattle is a 3000 mile road trip and DET always plays tough on thanksgiving.  
The Jets haven't beaten BUF, NE or MIA in three years so I'm not sure how they get to more than 6 wins while getting swept by the division. They have to at least split with MIA and NE to have any sort of chance at .500. 
6 wins would be about expected (5.5 is the current over under, last year's over under was 6 and they got 4) 
7-8 wins would be excellent 
a winning season (9+) Saleh should win coach of the year 

I see us at 8-9

[New York Mick]

5-10 not 1-5

[UntouchableCrew]

7 minutes ago, bitonti said:

non conference road schedule is brutal. games at Denver and at Green Bay are also terrible matchups  - even the "easy" games like at Seattle is a 3000 mile road trip and DET always plays tough on thanksgiving.  

The Jets haven't beaten BUF, NE or MIA in three years so I'm not sure how they get to more than 6 wins while getting swept by the division. They have to at least split with MIA and NE to have any sort of chance at .500. 

6 wins would be about expected (5.5 is the current over under, last year's over under was 6 and they got 4) 

7-8 wins would be excellent 

a winning season (9+) Saleh should win coach of the year 

Let's start with the first thing -- obviously getting swept by the division would be a disaster. If that happens we're picking top ten and who knows what the future holds for this regime. I think 3-3 should be the target for the division -- if we can't beat the Dolphins or Pats that's a major problem.

While you're right that Denver and Green Bay look like automatic Ls -- we have some very winnable home games. Lions, Jaguars, Bears all at home. Seahawks and Vikings on the road aren't exactly scary even if we'll be dogs.

AFC North matchups and division matchups make or break us. We go 3-3 vs. division and 2-2 vs. AFC North we're in business.

[rex-n-effect]

If this team somehow gets worse and picks third next year they should dismiss the coaching staff. Wilson is a question mark but the rest of the roster is the best roster this team has had since 2010 or 2011.

[Lith]

17 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

We have to start beating NE and Miami. 

Yup.  We have to beat them both at home and take on of them on the road.  Assume we will lose two to Buffalo, but 3-3 in the Division opens things up for us;  2-4 or 1-5 and we are screwed.  Again.

[Adoni Beast]

With a QB class this loaded … If Wilson really sh*ts the bed and we can draft his replacement we shouldn’t even hesitate to do so.

[T0mShane]

41 minutes ago, ZachEY said:

Don't understand a scenario where we're picking top 3 next year and not taking a QB.

[maury77]

5 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

[JustInFudge]

36 minutes ago, ZachEY said:

Don't understand a scenario where we're picking top 3 next year and not taking a QB.

If this scenario is real, as much as I love AR15, I'd take Will Anderson and hope for a trade market/FA QB.  Supposedly this is the most talented roster we've had in a decade, you cant waist it hoping for another rookie, if Zach doesnt work out.  This franchise has to start winning games and the only time this franchise has had a winning season in the last 12, is when they traded for a veteran QB.

 

 

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, maury77 said:

[JustInFudge]

 

8 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

2 minutes ago, maury77 said:

 

[Jethead]

That's a lot of talent we won't be drafting. Don't blame McShay. Until we do it, we haven't earned the props.

[bitonti]

12 minutes ago, JiFapono said:

If this scenario is real, as much as I love AR15, I'd take Will Anderson and hope for a trade market/FA QB.  

the other problem with Will Anderson to NYJ is he's not really a fit for the 4-3 due to his size. He's 6'4" 243 like an Anthony Barr Sam on running downs and edge on pass downs, which is fine and all but it's not like he's an elite edge by 4-3 physical standards. He's kind of a perfect 3-4 OLB though.  

[ZachEY]

15 minutes ago, JiFapono said:

If this scenario is real, as much as I love AR15, I'd take Will Anderson and hope for a trade market/FA QB.  Supposedly this is the most talented roster we've had in a decade, you cant waist it hoping for another rookie, if Zach doesnt work out.  This franchise has to start winning games and the only time this franchise has had a winning season in the last 12, is when they traded for a veteran QB.

 

 

Fair enough.  Veteran is certainly an option.  Might do both in that scenario.

[bitonti]

33 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I think 3-3 should be the target for the division -- if we can't beat the Dolphins or Pats that's a major problem.

The Bills are the Vegas Super Bowl favorites. They are a sick team on paper. If/when the Jets get swept by buffalo, that means they have to sweep either MIA or NEP to get to 3-3 in the division. 

the Jets will be a live underdog this year but every other team will see them as a winnable game.

it's tough to see how they go from 0 wins in 3 years to 3 wins in 1 year. Zach would have to be really good. 

1-2 division win would be a step in the right direction to be honest. If they can not get embarrassed at home by MIA and NEP that's at least a start 

i don't hold out much hope of them beating buffalo, unless Josh Allen gets injured or something crazy 

[RedBeardedSavage]

This guy loved Zach Wilson in the draft last year, loved our '22 draft after landing 4 immediate starters, and now thinks we'll faceplant into the third overall pick next year?

Whatever, bruh. 

[ZachEY]

52 minutes ago, Doggin94it said:

I see 12 winnable games on there (we match up fine with everything but the Bills, Browns, Bengals, and Ravens, IMO), so 6 would be a disappointment.

Beating Green Bay in GB is reasonable?  Denver in Denver with Wilson?

[RedBeardedSavage]

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Home 2022: Buffalo Bills, New England Patriots, Miami Dolphins, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, and Jacksonville Jaguars.

Away 2022: Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, New England Patriots, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, Denver Broncos, and Seattle Seahawks.

8 wins in bold

I also think the Packers and depending on timing with Deshaun suspension Browns are beatable.