The Crusher Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: He is largely credited for hold the team together and making the playoffs amid the Raiders controversy. He also wears eyeliner like Alice Cooper. So awesome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Crusher said: He also wears eyeliner like Alice Cooper. So awesome. Eyeliner and chip on his shoulder = sexy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Eyeliner and chip on his shoulder = sexy. Eyeliner and crying isn't a good combo, though. Maybe he got it tattooed so it doesn't run. That'd be smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: I get that part for game checks: you earn your game check in that game, where you played that game. In his case, though, his game checks are extremely low (about $70K/week). My understanding was that signing bonuses aren't game checks. Moreover, they're often designed as an up-front payment for the next two or more seasons, with the salaries not just in y1 but also y2 (and sometimes, to a degree more, in y3) the base salary figure is artificially suppressed because that compensation came up front. Testaverde had a lawsuit over it between Ohio and California years ago, when he got his contract for Cleveland in the mid-90s. He paid his signing bonus taxes in Ohio, and only applied game checks for his California road games (base salary). California wanted a bigger chunk - a percentage of his signing bonus, too - and sued him over it, but the case was thrown out on appeal because the court said signing bonus was only due in his home team's state (don't know if that differs if his official residence state is elsewhere, though). Only game checks - considered "duty days" - apply for road games & that's why they're subject to the "jock tax" for those games in those states. The rationale is Rodgers doesn't have to play any games - let alone road games - to get (and keep) his signing bonus. He needs to practice while healthy enough to do so, but on Sundays if he's injured he doesn't return 1/17 of his signing bonus. If he busts an ACL in training camp before the first game he doesn't actually play in any road (nor home) games, but doesn't have to return his signing bonus. That's why the signing bonus is not taxed the same as game checks: it's not conditional on actually playing in the games. Anyway, that was my understanding, correctly figured or otherwise. That's a good point and I did not remember the Vinnie story. You may be right on that count. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 17 hours ago, prime21 said: His release timed with Rodgers whacko darkness retreat leaves JD in a bit of a predicament. Its interesting. In a way, its perfect timing. Rodgers and the Jets both know they can't do anything while Rodgers is no his 'darkness retreat' as he is incommunicado. JD has to do his due diligence. Rodgers should know that and not take it personal. So this is the perfect time to have Carr visit, see what the cost is, see what his interest is, have a contract ready, and yes, see if maybe, just maybe you can get him to sign on the dotted line. If there was some kind of understanding that the Jets would love Rodgers if he decided to come back and play for another season and a potential trade was in place but Carr came in and said he would love to be a Jet while Rodgers was on his 'darkness retreat' pondering his future. I don't think you can blame JD for signing Carr. None of this is personal. The Jets have been spurned before in FA/Offseason and JD cannot afford to whiff on an impact QB. Get 'er done JD. I will say though that Carr is in no rush. I'm sure he will visit a bunch of teams to figure out the best place for him and drive his price up as much as he can. And frankly, the swirling cold winds of Metlife are probably not the place where he wants to play his home games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ylekram Posted February 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 15, 2023 14 hours ago, The Crusher said: Then you need to go to my moms for football!! lol @ the diet coke 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, ylekram said: lol @ the diet coke That’s mine! Haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 19 hours ago, IndianaJet said: Sauce checks in.... Love how our players are trying to recruit QB's left and right. Several Jets fans on this board: "BUT WHAT ABOUT ZACH'S FEELINGS????" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Love how our players are trying to recruit QB's left and right. Several Jets fans on this board: "BUT WHAT ABOUT ZACH'S FEELINGS????" He was referring to the invitation to his bible study group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: He was referring to the invitation to his bible study group. Ah gotcha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Any rumors? Trips ? Footsie ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 5 hours ago, ylekram said: lol @ the diet coke @The Crusher I’m the guy who will order a ton of crap at the drive thru and then be like “oh yeah, and a Diet Coke…” Two reasons. I think regular soda is too sweet, and it’s a waste of calories. (I know it’s stupid, but it is what it is) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 12 hours ago, The Crusher said: He also wears eyeliner like Alice Cooper. So awesome. Someone said he went to Church every Sunday. I'm having a hard time reconciling these two things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 18 hours ago, Integrity28 said: You realize that 2-year fill in puts us at Zach’s fifth year? I doubt this is the actual strategy. Coaches have to give Zach hope and think maybe he can be salvaged, but zero percent chance this is a preordained plan. if you get a franchise QB in this moment, you take him and run. JD/Woody are not giving up on him. Makes no sense, right now, to sign anyone to a long term deal since they still have eyes for Zach. I figure they sign a Tannehill, Jimmy G or Rodgers and make a run to get in the playoffs over next 2 years while Zach’s on the bench surfing on milf.com. I’m sure they’re hoping the light turns on over that span. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Maynard13 said: JD/Woody are not giving up on him. Makes no sense, right now, to sign anyone to a long term deal since they still have eyes for Zach. I figure they sign a Tannehill, Jimmy G or Rodgers and make a run to get in the playoffs over next 2 years while Zach’s on the bench surfing on milf.com. I’m sure they’re hoping the light turns on over that span. So are they signing a vet for one season or picking up Wilson’s 5th year option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYDreamer Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 If the Jets do sign Carr, I could easily see the Colts or Saints offering draft capital for Zach Wilson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Maynard13 said: JD/Woody are not giving up on him. Makes no sense, right now, to sign anyone to a long term deal since they still have eyes for Zach. I figure they sign a Tannehill, Jimmy G or Rodgers and make a run to get in the playoffs over next 2 years while Zach’s on the bench surfing on milf.com. I’m sure they’re hoping the light turns on over that span. It would be patently stupid to pass on the best QB options possible, because you think Zach will be ready in 2-3 years… after 2 years of horrible play. But, okay. Windy is stupid, I agree with that. I just think Zach is here, but not “the plan”. More of a long-sh*t investment now. Teams gotta move forward assuming he’s a lost cause… effectively planning for both situations where he gets it or never does, but you can’t bank on it. Would be too jetsy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, GangGreened said: So are they signing a vet for one season or picking up Wilson’s 5th year option? Ask JD - I just work here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 18 hours ago, Green Ghost said: @The Crusher I’m the guy who will order a ton of crap at the drive thru and then be like “oh yeah, and a Diet Coke…” Two reasons. I think regular soda is too sweet, and it’s a waste of calories. (I know it’s stupid, but it is what it is) I drink 5 things. Water, black coffee, beer and whiskey. I'll have an occasional glass of milk. Can't do any of the sugary soft drinks or Gatorade or any crap like that any more. Since I was a kid really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Integrity28 said: It would be patently stupid to pass on the best QB options possible, because you think Zach will be ready in 2-3 years… after 2 years of horrible play. But, okay. Windy is stupid, I agree with that. I just think Zach is here, but not “the plan”. More of a long-sh*t investment now. Teams gotta move forward assuming he’s a lost cause… effectively planning for both situations where he gets it or never does, but you can’t bank on it. Would be too jetsy. Just seems they are not willing to look like total morons for drafting the next great QB bust like Couch, Russell, Leaf with that high pick. Seems they will give him plenty of rope and hope he becomes the prospect they thought they were getting before they cut him loose. He’s entering his 3rd year. Still raw as a cucumber. They sign a vet for 2 years and see how he progresses. After those 2 years, he’d be going into his 5th year. A lot of things can happen between now and then. He might improve, he might continue to suck. Bottom line, they not ready to cut him loose just yet. One thing for sure, they are signing a vet for at least the next 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, NYDreamer said: If the Jets do sign Carr, I could easily see the Colts or Saints offering draft capital for Zach Wilson. Maybe a conditional 7th 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Integrity28 said: It would be patently stupid to pass on the best QB options possible, because you think Zach will be ready in 2-3 years… after 2 years of horrible play. But, okay. Windy is stupid, I agree with that. I just think Zach is here, but not “the plan”. More of a long-sh*t investment now. Teams gotta move forward assuming he’s a lost cause… effectively planning for both situations where he gets it or never does, but you can’t bank on it. Would be too jetsy. Zach will never be ready. Jets need either Rodgers or Carr. Jimmy G is unacceptable. Tannehill is unacceptable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Maynard13 said: Just seems they are not willing to look like total morons for drafting the next great QB bust like Couch, Russell, Leaf with that high pick. Seems they will give him plenty of rope and hope he becomes the prospect they thought they were getting before they cut him loose. He’s entering his 3rd year. Still raw as a cucumber. They sign a vet for 2 years and see how he progresses. After those 2 years, he’d be going into his 5th year. A lot of things can happen between now and then. He might improve, he might continue to suck. Bottom line, they not ready to cut him loose just yet. One thing for sure, they are signing a vet for at least the next 2 years. The team is ready to win now aside from the QB position because they screwed the pooch w/Wilson. If they go out and get the best QB they can and compete for a championship no one is going to give a flying F about how they screwed the pooch w/Wilson. If they limit the options at QB because they hope Wilson somehow works out some day it would be compounding the original error. Hopefully they aren't foolish enough to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 3 hours ago, NYDreamer said: If the Jets do sign Carr, I could easily see the Colts or Saints offering draft capital for Zach Wilson. A 2025 7th rounder? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 41 minutes ago, freestater said: I drink 5 things. Water, black coffee, beer and whiskey. I'll have an occasional glass of milk. Can't do any of the sugary soft drinks or Gatorade or any crap like that any more. Since I was a kid really. I’m addicted to Crystal Light Sweet tea ( not as sweet as the name implies). I always have a half gallon in my fridge. It’s garbage, and loaded with god knows how many chemicals but I love it. Other than that, it’s water, an occasional Scotch or Vodka and Aand two 16oz half caf coffees in the morning When I golfing down here and the temps get really high I’ll go with a Powerade Zero, which is basically colored water with added electrolytes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 It’s weird that there have been no rumors, right ? Is everyone waiting to see if the ground Rodgers sees his shadow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, Larz said: It’s weird that there have been no rumors, right ? Is everyone waiting to see if the ground Rodgers sees his shadow? We are waiting for the inevitable announcement that Rodgers is staying in green bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: The team is ready to win now aside from the QB position because they screwed the pooch w/Wilson. If they go out and get the best QB they can and compete for a championship no one is going to give a flying F about how they screwed the pooch w/Wilson. If they limit the options at QB because they hope Wilson somehow works out some day it would be compounding the original error. Hopefully they aren't foolish enough to do that. You do realize you’re talking about the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Green Ghost said: I’m addicted to Crystal Light Sweet tea ( not as sweet as the name implies). I always have a half gallon in my fridge. It’s garbage, and loaded with god knows how many chemicals but I love it. Other than that, it’s water, an occasional Scotch or Vodka and Aand two 16oz half caf coffees in the morning When I golfing down here and the temps get really high I’ll go with a Powerade Zero, which is basically colored water with added electrolytes. I wish my parents told me growing up that Gatorade wasn't healthy....it was basically Idiocracy in that house. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/15/2023 at 3:41 AM, Barry McCockinner said: Zach Wilson is one of the worst QBs I've ever seen. This shouldn't be the mindset of the Jets. We just need to waste another 2-3 years and Sauce’s entire rookie contract to find out if Zach Wilson might be decent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said: We just need to waste another 2-3 years and Sauce’s entire rookie contract to find out if Zach Wilson might be decent Sauce, Garrett, Elijah, Breece, AVT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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