Popular Post JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted April 10 Popular Post Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, ganggreen305 said: When is this going to be over?!?!?!?! if you were an NFL GM or owner, what would you be willing to give up for the right to pay this man 5.5M fully gtd Just sad at this point 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cat999 Posted April 10 Popular Post Share Posted April 10 I skipped directly to page 24 - can someone fill me in on what we're arguing about in this thread. Seems pretty cut and dried to me. He is either traded (preferably) for some salary relief or very minimal draft capital, or he is released and we eat the $5 million. What more is there to say? 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Im just patiently waiting for Steve Young and co. to start making noise...its coming soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 13 hours ago, Dunnie said: Totally agree .. it is what it is. He either did not get the developmental coaching he needed, got bad coaching that derailed his development, or can't and could never play period. Any way you slice it, the talent he has flashed has not become consistent and with the exception of a few good games (only 1 or 2 complete games) of football, he has not demonstrated the improvement necessary to execute as a starter. The differences of opinion ultimately only matter if you believe the coaching staff and OL play had something to do with the outcome. Because if the team drafts another developmental QB ( Penix for example ) you'd be crazy to believe this staff can get the job done. Has the team brought in a new QB coach yet ? Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk I don't blame anyone except Zach but he's not a worthless 0 talent and should hang them up. I just don't think right now he's a starting player. He can go in make plays and give a team a jolt on offense. I'd suit him up as a backup but if he has to play for extended time and start like in 2023 I go in a different direction. He's a relief pitcher not a starting pitcher. Other players like Geno have come back and become good players after sucking like Zach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 4 hours ago, doitny said: this is it, right here. Fields from the same draft class with the same years and 2 mil less money just got traded for a 6th rd pick. HOF HC Mike Tomlin wanted Fields when he could have had Zach and his unbelievable talent..lol this has to tell you something. Tomlin is one of the best HCs in history and he didnt want Zach. Not to mention, the following teams all seem to be looking pretty satisfied with their QB rooms with, at minimum, their QB2 spots well-filled with trustworthy options and/or several filling their QB3 slots as well: Bills: Josh Allen, Trubisky Dolphins: Tua, Mike White, Skylar Thompson Patriots: Brissett, Zappe Ravens: Lamar, Josh Johnson Bengals: Burrow, Jake Browning Browns: Watson, Winston Steelers: R. Wilson, Fields, Kyle Allen Texans: Stroud, Davis Mills, Keenum, Tim Boyle Colts: Anthony Richardson, Flacco, Sam Ehlinger Jaguars: Lawrence, Mac Jones, CJ Beathard Titans: Levis, Mason Rudolph, Malik Willis Chiefs: Mahomes, Wentz, Ian Book Raiders: O'Connell, Minshew, Anthony Brown Chargers: Herbert, Easton Stick, Max Duggan Cowboys: Dak, Cooper Rush, Trey Lance Giants: D. Jones, Drew Lock, DeVito Eagles: Hurts, Kenny Pickett, Will Grier/Tanner McKee Washington: Mariota, Jeff Driskel, Jake Fromm Lions: Goff, Hendon Hooker, Nate Sudfeld Vikings: Darnold, Nick Mullens, Jaren Hall Falcons: Cousins, Heinicke Panthers: B. Young, Dalton Bucs: Mayfield, Kyle Trask, John Wolford Saints: Carr, Jake Haener, Peterman Cardinals: Murray, Desmond Ridder, Clayton Tune Rams: Stafford, Jimmy G, Stetson Bennett 49ers: Purdy, Josh Dobbs, Brandon Allen Seahawks: G. Smith, Sam Howell Tack on the teams that will add QBs in the draft, and some adding alternative vet QBs yet to be signed (Tannehill, Gabbert, Hoyer, etc), and just how many teams are there that are going to be looking for a QB3 like Zach? Denver and maybe Chicago? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 17 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: I don't blame anyone except Zach but he's not a worthless 0 talent and should hang them up. I just don't think right now he's a starting player. He can go in make plays and give a team a jolt on offense. I'd suit him up as a backup but if he has to play for extended time and start like in 2023 I go in a different direction. He's a relief pitcher not a starting pitcher. Other players like Geno have come back and become good players after sucking like Zach. He has some talent. He just has zero drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 20 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: I don't blame anyone except Zach but he's not a worthless 0 talent and should hang them up. I just don't think right now he's a starting player. He can go in make plays and give a team a jolt on offense. I'd suit him up as a backup but if he has to play for extended time and start like in 2023 I go in a different direction. He's a relief pitcher not a starting pitcher. Other players like Geno have come back and become good players after sucking like Zach. He's thrown 23 total touchdown passes in three years. To put that in perspective, 14 QBs threw 23+ TDs last season alone. 3 of those (R. Wilson, Stafford, Stroud) did it in just 15 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: He's thrown 23 total touchdown passes in three years. You have to know the plays in order to throw touchdowns 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 20 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Not to mention, the following teams all seem to be looking pretty satisfied with their QB rooms with, at minimum, their QB2 spots well-filled with trustworthy options and/or several filling their QB3 slots as well: Bills: Josh Allen, Trubisky Dolphins: Tua, Mike White, Skylar Thompson Patriots: Brissett, Zappe Ravens: Lamar, Josh Johnson Bengals: Burrow, Jake Browning Browns: Watson, Winston Steelers: R. Wilson, Fields, Kyle Allen Texans: Stroud, Davis Mills, Keenum, Tim Boyle Colts: Anthony Richardson, Flacco, Sam Ehlinger Jaguars: Lawrence, Mac Jones, CJ Beathard Titans: Levis, Mason Rudolph, Malik Willis Chiefs: Mahomes, Wentz, Ian Book Raiders: O'Connell, Minshew, Anthony Brown Chargers: Herbert, Easton Stick, Max Duggan Cowboys: Dak, Cooper Rush, Trey Lance Giants: D. Jones, Drew Lock, DeVito Eagles: Hurts, Kenny Pickett, Will Grier/Tanner McKee Washington: Mariota, Jeff Driskel, Jake Fromm Lions: Goff, Hendon Hooker, Nate Sudfeld Vikings: Darnold, Nick Mullens, Jaren Hall Falcons: Cousins, Heinicke Panthers: B. Young, Dalton Bucs: Mayfield, Kyle Trask, John Wolford Saints: Carr, Jake Haener, Peterman Cardinals: Murray, Desmond Ridder, Clayton Tune Rams: Stafford, Stetson Bennett 49ers: Purdy, Josh Dobbs, Brandon Allen Seahawks: G. Smith, Sam Howell Tack on the teams that will add QBs in the draft, and some adding alternative vet QBs yet to be signed (Tannehill, Gabbert, Hoyer, etc), and just how many teams are there that are going to be looking for a QB3 like Zach? Denver and maybe Chicago? great list. the thing that stands out to me the most are the Rams having Stetson Bennett at 2. at 26 he has never played in a NFL game and there choosing him over Zach. and Stafford who is 35 missed 2 games last year and 8 the year before. then you have Easton Stick as the #2 with the Chargers. Ried went with Wentz who is supposed to be such a bad guy. those are the backup spots he could have had but they instead went with nobodys and a bad guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 27 minutes ago, Matt39 said: He has some talent. He just has zero drive. I don't see that. I thought always he gave a good effort and wasn't afraid of contact. He got creamed on that concussion play. Look AR was out for the season based on one play was he trying to jake it too? His teammates don't think that about him that he was a chicken. The only time they were pissed at him was after his dumb comments after that Patriots game when he wouldn't take any blame for a bad game. He's a young guy made a mistake and fixed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBJ Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Trade him to the Coyotes! Report: NHL preparing for Coyotes to potentially move to Utah https://www.ksl.com/article/50976889/report-nhl-preparing-for-coyotes-to-potentially-move-to-utah 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 58 minutes ago, doitny said: great list. the thing that stands out to me the most are the Rams having Stetson Bennett at 2. at 26 he has never played in a NFL game and there choosing him over Zach. and Stafford who is 35 missed 2 games last year and 8 the year before. then you have Easton Stick as the #2 with the Chargers. Ried went with Wentz who is supposed to be such a bad guy. those are the backup spots he could have had but they instead went with nobodys and a bad guy. Rams signed Jimmy G 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 On 4/8/2024 at 9:36 AM, bicketybam said: Zach Wilson's NFL career Gon be a long concussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I see that you geniuses are still hashing this one out huh 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 Remember last year when Zach supposedly "couldn't hurt us any longer" because we had Rodgers? How'd that work out for the PVO crowd? Yeah, I'm good with bumping this thread until the second he's gone. There are 2 things you can do about it if you are upset: 1) Nothing, and 2) Like it.I quite enjoy your tirades ... They offer unique and compelling insights every time.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 Siemian took sacks at less than half the rate as Zach Wilson did, killing the "OL ruined Zach" argument. But you keep fighting that good fight!Explain the need to revamp the line entirely.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 8 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Explain the need to revamp the line entirely.... The line was bad. Zach holds the ball for a very long time. You take the good, you take the bad, and there you have the facts of life, the facts of life. Also a cumulative effect of the linemen saying “**** this guy” after the millionth time they carved out a pocket for him and he bails on it because every snap provided a wondrous new adventure for the whelp 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 The line was bad. Zach holds the ball for a very long time. You take the good, you take the bad, and there you have the facts of life, the facts of life. Also a cumulative effect of the linemen saying “**** this guy” after the millionth time they carved out a pocket for him and he bails on it because every snap provided a wondrous new adventure for the whelpYes both can be true Zach was not good ... The OLine was atrocious.. I agree with that.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 2 hours ago, Dunnie said: Explain the need to revamp the line entirely.... No team should ever try to improve ever. Just let things rot so that you and Tuscany can have forever excuses for horrific play by your boo face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jetsfan80 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, Dunnie said: Yes both can be true Zach was not good ... The OLine was atrocious.. I agree with that. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Saying Zach Wilson was “not good” is like saying the Hindenburg Disaster was a “minor inconvenience”. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dcat Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Did we trade him yet? To Hell with this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 2 minutes ago, Dcat said: Did we trade him yet? To Hell with this thread. JD is still sifting through all the bids. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/10/2024 at 6:09 PM, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: if you were an NFL GM or owner, what would you be willing to give up for the right to pay this man 5.5M fully gtd Just sad at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/10/2024 at 6:52 PM, Matt39 said: You have to know the plays in order to throw touchdowns Zach is studying really hard at his family’s villa in the Swiss Alps right now I promise 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/10/2024 at 8:10 PM, RutgersJetFan said: I see that you geniuses are still hashing this one out huh This is the daily reminder thread that Zach wilson is a bum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 2 hours ago, bitonti said: This is the daily reminder thread that Zach wilson is a bum And evidently there's at least a couple people here who still need that reminder! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 3 hours ago, bitonti said: This is the daily reminder thread that Zach wilson is a bum Only when it comes to being an NFL QB. Mostly cause he ain’t one. Other than that kids pretty solid. Got bank, gets nice tail and got one of those Billionare Uncles. We should all be so Bummy Bit! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Last two years Zach Wilson 10 wins Aaron Rodgers 8 wins! Boo ya! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/10/2024 at 6:25 PM, SickJetFan said: Im just patiently waiting for Steve Young and co. to start making noise...its coming soon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 54 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Last two years Zach Wilson 10 wins Aaron Rodgers 8 wins! Boo ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: Only when it comes to being an NFL QB. Mostly cause he ain’t one. Other than that kids pretty solid. Got bank, gets nice tail and got one of those Billionare Uncles. We should all be so Bummy Bit! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Last two years Zach Wilson 10 wins Aaron Rodgers 8 wins! Boo ya! An upturned bucket for a head with a broom handle body could have done the same as Zach for all he contributed to those wins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 13 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Simms is among the worst Always has that turd-eating smirk on his face like Cimini 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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